Message boards :
Politics :
Boeing: Profits 1st, Safety 2nd? (Part 3)
Message board moderation
Previous · 1 . . . 5 · 6 · 7 · 8 · 9 · 10 · 11 . . . 46 · Next
Author | Message |
---|---|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31211 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 ![]() ![]() |
That $2.5 Billion is quite a "buy yourself out of jail" card! Almost pocket change, they have over $10 Billion in cash out of their over $100 Billion in assets. |
W-K 666 ![]() Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19590 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 ![]() ![]() |
That $2.5 Billion is quite a "buy yourself out of jail" card! But several sources estimate that this could be the most expensive blunder ever, The Deepwater Horizon costs were estimated to be $86 Billion. That's quite a chunk out of its assets. |
![]() Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21687 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 ![]() ![]() |
That $2.5 Billion is quite a "buy yourself out of jail" card! That is quite some estimate and quite an unimaginable cost if really greater than $86 000 Million! All in our deadly, unimaginably greedy, only one world, Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Sirius B ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24927 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 ![]() |
|
![]() Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21687 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 ![]() ![]() |
Boeing 737 missing Oh no... Oh dear... ... The aircraft which appears to have been lost off Indonesia was a Boeing 737, but it should not be confused with the much more modern 737 Max - which was grounded following two tragic accidents in 2018 and 2019, including one off the coast of Indonesia. Another one to watch as to how and why. Old outdated cockpit factors? Maintenance? Old design confusing modern day pilots? Just for one old wild factor: Does the 737 Classic risk the same 'uncontrollable force the flight trim to destruction' wiring failure risk as installed in the 737 NG and as installed in the unmodified 737 MAX? (The wiring deadly fault is one that was discovered after the deadly MCAS failures and is separate from MCAS.) At least this latest crash is accessible to allow investigation so as to learn to not to fail in that way (yet?) again... Condolences to all those to have lost loved ones. Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31211 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 ![]() ![]() |
Let the speculation begin ...Boeing 737 missing 26 year old aircraft, operated in a coastal salt environment, hey, Aloha Airlines Flight 243? or wing spar? or Pan Am Flight 103 |
rob smith ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22737 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 ![]() ![]() |
Current status - it was out of service for nine months, was recently returned to service after an inspection, has flown "trouble-free" since that inspection, summat broke and it crashed. No idea yet as to what summat was https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-55628294 Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
W-K 666 ![]() Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19590 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 ![]() ![]() |
Boeing 737 Max could fly in Europe this summer after EU approval European safety agency follows US and Brazil in saying it will allow aircraft to return |
Sirius B ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24927 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 ![]() |
Not Boeing related, but it is the same industry. Wonder what such an investigation would produce for Boeing? How to investigate 60M documents Doubt very much that the U.S. would permit such an investigation. |
![]() Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21687 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 ![]() ![]() |
Really?!... Would you trust your life to this leader of the FAA?... Judge for yourselves: Judge Says FAA Chief Helped Delta Air Lines Retaliate Against Pilot Who Raised Pilot Safety Concerns wrote: A Judge ruled {that} the head of the FAA, Steve Dickson, helped Delta Air Lines retaliate against a pilot who raised safety concerns while he was an executive with the airline... Who would you trust with your life?... All in our deadly greedy world, Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
![]() Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21687 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 ![]() ![]() |
And as we have all been following: Boeing 737 Max cleared to fly again 'too early' wrote: A former senior manager at Boeing's 737 plant in Seattle has raised new concerns over the safety of the company's 737 Max. I still wonder about the same or similar possibly potentially fatal wiring on the presently flying Boeing 737 NG aircraft... Strangely, that topic is not in the news... Political pressure and greedy profit come first?... Fly safe folks!? Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
![]() Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21687 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 ![]() ![]() |
And as we have all been following: And here's an updated good summary of the last nearly two years: 'Boeing played Russian Roulette with people's lives' wrote: ... doubts persist. In its final report, the House Transportation and Infrastructure Committee stated that: Political pressure and greedy profit come first?... Fly safe folks!? Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
![]() Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21687 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 ![]() ![]() |
Current status - it was out of service for nine months, was recently returned to service after an inspection, has flown "trouble-free" since that inspection, summat broke and it crashed. No idea yet as to what summat was Here's a good concise update from Blancolirio: Sriwijaya SJ-182 KNKT Preliminary Report 12 Feb 2021 That is sounding like quite a deadly "Ouch!"... Really?! The autopilot will hang on to the very bitter end without any warnings and suddenly, "SURPRISE YOU!", it will abandon an already stalled aircraft onto the pilots to perform a deadly miracle get-out-of-that??!! All backed up with strong Marketing at greedy ignorant customer managers with the sales message that supposedly the aircraft efficiently flies itself?... No pilot training needed?... That ain't no way to design and implement aircraft systems... All in our deadly greedy world, Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31211 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 ![]() ![]() |
|
![]() Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21687 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 ![]() ![]() |
Bilge Barriers Thanks for that. And that is for the 787 after how long!!! Meanwhile, Boeing is outsourcing out to abroad the production of the tail fin for the 737: Boeing Set To Launch Indian 737 Tail Production wrote: Boeing is launching a new vertical tail fin production facility in the state of Telangana, India. The facility is a joint-venture with Tata Advanced Systems... Are there any parallels for that to how the Boeing 737 Max software was outsourced for the deadly MCAS?... Stay safe folks! Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
W-K 666 ![]() Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19590 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 ![]() ![]() |
I was under the impression that all of the 787 parts were outsourced, probably to the lowest bidder and that Boeing assemble the parts using shims etc. to ensure the parts look like they are fitted together. |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31211 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 ![]() ![]() |
I was under the impression that all of the 787 parts were outsourced, probably to the lowest bidder and that Boeing assemble the parts using shims etc. to ensure the parts look like they are fitted together. If you have ever see a train of airplanes, you know it is true. ![]() |
W-K 666 ![]() Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19590 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 ![]() ![]() |
May not strictly belong here but its a Boeing 777. US plane scatters engine debris over Denver homes ![]() |
![]() Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21687 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 ![]() ![]() |
Ouch!! That ain't supposed to happen. Even for any catastrophic failure: The shrapnel should always remain contained... All in our deadly greedy world? Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
W-K 666 ![]() Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19590 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 ![]() ![]() |
![]() United Airlines Flight 328 experienced “a right-engine failure” shortly after takeoff from Denver, the F.A.A. said on Saturday.Credit...Hayden Smith Twitter - Engine on fire Twitter - Landing |
©2025 University of California
SETI@home and Astropulse are funded by grants from the National Science Foundation, NASA, and donations from SETI@home volunteers. AstroPulse is funded in part by the NSF through grant AST-0307956.