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Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31014 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
To be fair it sounds like your place of employment, or SOP corporatized management. As long as it isn't the lives of the Board Room, Ford Pinto. Or do you not think that FORD was the epitome of corporate culture when they produced them? |
Dr Who Fan Send message Joined: 8 Jan 01 Posts: 3348 Credit: 715,342 RAC: 4 |
FAA chief says Boeing safety culture reforms may take years The head of the Federal Aviation Administration told a U.S. House subcommittee on Tuesday that safety culture improvements at Boeing(BA.N), opens new tab may take three to five years to complete. |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 36854 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
1 way or the other Boeing is losing more of its profits. Boeing strikers not interested in 30% pay rise. The union representing thousands of striking Boeing workers says a survey of its members shows they are "not interested" in the aviation giant's latest pay offer. |
Scrooge McDuck Send message Joined: 26 Nov 99 Posts: 1198 Credit: 1,674,173 RAC: 54 |
Boeing staff report pressure to lower standards [...] Democratic lawmakers released the results of a damaging internal staff survey that Boeing conducted in May, which found more than half of Boeing workers felt that "schedule pressures" had caused their team to lower its standards. |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19407 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
NTSB issues urgent safety recommendations on Boeing 737 rudder after Newark incident
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Dr Who Fan Send message Joined: 8 Jan 01 Posts: 3348 Credit: 715,342 RAC: 4 |
The Boeing middle and upper management only have themselves to blame for the record losses.. Boeing to lay off 17,000 workers, delay 777X rollout amid machinists strike Boeing will lay off 17,000 workers and delay the introduction of its 777X wide-body plane until 2026, CEO Kelly Ortberg revealed Friday amid an increasingly bitter five-week-old machinist strike. |
Dr Who Fan Send message Joined: 8 Jan 01 Posts: 3348 Credit: 715,342 RAC: 4 |
How long before Boeing goes bust? Boeing is raising $10 billion from 4 major banks — and could sell another $25 billion in securities Boeing plans to raise up to $35 billion to help steady its finances as a machinists strike enters its fifth week. |
Scrooge McDuck Send message Joined: 26 Nov 99 Posts: 1198 Credit: 1,674,173 RAC: 54 |
Such extreme financial burdens must increase prices of future Boeing aircraft significantly compared to Airbus to generate sufficient profit. Boeing will hardly be able to raise the funds to develop any new aircraft, e.g. the 737 successor. Without a modern single aisle aircraft, Boeing can't continue at some point, like Douglas or British and French manufacturers before, back then wiped from the market by superior Boeing planes. At the same time, Airbus will certainly be secretly developing an even more efficient successor to the A320. From a competiveness and antitrust perspective: How to keep a financially stable competitor to Airbus, with comparable sales figures? |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19407 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
And now a Boeing satellite breaks up. Intelsat 33e breaks up in geostationary orbit TAMPA, Fla. — The Intelsat 33e satellite has broken up in geostationary orbit (GEO) and lost power, ceasing communications services for customers across Europe, Africa and parts of Asia Pacific. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31014 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
And now a Boeing satellite breaks up. Interesting. Went up in 2016 so it isn't exactly a spring chicken. I see four possibilities: 1) Impact 2) bad commands 3) fatigue 4) bad parts Due to its age I don't see an assembly error as likely There is always intentional act and some other wild highly unlikely conditions. |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19407 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
And now a Boeing satellite breaks up. They are usually designed for a life of 15 years, and many exceed that, so this one is only middle-aged, at most. |
Scrooge McDuck Send message Joined: 26 Nov 99 Posts: 1198 Credit: 1,674,173 RAC: 54 |
1) ImpactOf what? This heavy (14,600 lbs) satellite burst into more than 20 fragments. It wasn't a micro-meteorite punching a small hole into a solar array. I thought larger space debris objects are well monitored, so you can manoeuver a satellite in time to prevent collisions. At least operators know in advance about close convergences. But there should not be any in GEO orbits. I also think that space debris is more a problem of the lower orbits, not GEO. Would they tell the public if this satellite was impacted by some object which wasn't in this orbit before? |
Scrooge McDuck Send message Joined: 26 Nov 99 Posts: 1198 Credit: 1,674,173 RAC: 54 |
... or more likely a recurring problem with this type of Boeing satellites? Same type Intelsat 29e was declared a total loss in 2019; only survived 3 years in GEO. April 8, 2019: Intelsat-29e satellite suffers fuel leak, spotted drifting along GEO arc: [..] ExoAnalytic Solutions said its network of ground-based telescopes identified debris around Intelsat-29e on April 8 [2019]. |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19407 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Went up in 2016 so it isn't exactly a spring chicken. From this List of satellites in geosynchronous orbit a 2016 launch makes it one of the youngest satellites. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31014 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Mr McDuck, consider a small object that just happens to impact, say a fuel tank. It also does not have to be in earth orbit, hence not tracked. Have fun looking at a meteor shower. |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21245 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
There are consequences: 'Crises at Boeing and Intel Are a National Emergency' wrote: ... Their market values have plummeted, jeopardizing not just shareholder wealth but national security. The U.S. is losing its edge in manufacturing high-tech products, crucial in its geopolitical contest with China... Only in the USA?... Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31014 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Only in the USA?...Well, H1B's from Red China are doing a very effective job of sabotage. Idiots in board rooms who only respond to greed. Time to line some of them up and ... Damn reminds me of a friend who worked in a place with "hello" phones. Idiots didn't know cell phones had cameras, so they could walk into SCIF's with a camera. How do you think our enemies have build duplicates of our "secret" technology so fast? Idiots! Now of course those personal devices have to go into a Faraday cage. But not back in the day. So now it is the H1B's eyeballs. |
Scrooge McDuck Send message Joined: 26 Nov 99 Posts: 1198 Credit: 1,674,173 RAC: 54 |
Striking Boeing workers reject 35% pay rise offer The International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers (IAM) union said 64% of its members voted against the proposed deal.Something seems to be fundamentally rotten between management and workers. Or rather management has completely lost contact with reality in their factories years ago... Unfortunately the article lacks any details about other demands by IAM union. Just payments? And a large majority rejects 35% increase? Unbelievable... |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21245 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
That supposed 35% is still a negative increase that is something that is spread thin as a never-never promise over future years, and ignores a degraded pension and worsened work conditions... The rest is self-destructive Management hussle whereas positive cooperation and good feelings would be far far more profitable. Do you want a self motivated happy diligent team, or an under-the-whip ragtag gang of malcontents?... And people's lives are totally dependent upon the motivation and good thorough work of those workers... Go fly with that? Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31014 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
If I'm getting more parts of the story, the workers want the company to go back to a traditional pension plan as promised years ago when they temporarily allowed a 401(k). That is likely a never for management. Just look at what happened to GM and others. I see a chapter 11 in the very near future. Does Airbus have the cash to buy them out of bankruptcy court? Or will they be broken up and the Military part bought by RTX or Lockheed and the Civilian by Textron? |
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