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ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21227 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
For an unnervingly optimistic update: Mentour Pilot - WHAT’s the Issue NOW?! wrote: ... a new Boeing 737MAX crisis ... possibly cancelling the MAX 7 and 10 variants ... A scary flashing "Maintenance Needed Now!" singular flashy light on a road vehicle may well be adequate for a road vehicle... Even then, us poor drivers have an ODB-II connector to allow us to see a pretty output explaining much more detail! So why does Boeing keep their aircraft cockpits stymied to a singular flashing bulb that can only tell the pilots that they should now be safely on the ground, and NOT still flying through the air... Fly safe?... Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21227 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
See: Mentour Pilot - HOW This Aircraft FELL 30 000 Feet in Less Than 2.5min! | China Airlines 006 In deadly contrast, note that the Indonesian pilots had about 10,000" to try to recover from a similarly unexpected lack of thrust from an engine... Boeing, fly safe? Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19401 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Boeing seeks approval for speed tape fix to the 787 problems with paint peeling. https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/boeing-says-787-operators-experience-wing-paint-peeling-2022-11-14/ |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21227 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
In all incredulity... Just wait for the killer twist in the tail of: The Verdict Is In On Boeing And Southwest MAX Price Fixing Scam And RICO Conspiracy Charges... wrote: ... Boeing and Southwest were accused of raising prices for 737 MAX flights even tho they knew the MCAS system was a danger to the aircraft. ... forming an alliance to deceive the public to fly on a dangerous aircraft and also inflating prices at the same time... Quite a judgement... And all very legal?... Wow!... Just wow!! There are some very good leads in there for some further legalities to unfurl... Fly safe?!... Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31009 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Hummm https://kilpatricktownsend.com/Blog/classaction/2022/11/fifth%20circuit%20civil%20rico%20class%20action%20against%20southwest%20airlines%20and%20boeing%20cannot%20stand%20for Accordingly, the panel reversed the class certification ruling, remanding with instructions that the case be dismissed, holding: “[Plaintiffs] concededly have suffered no physical harm. They have offered no plausible theory of economic harm. At bottom, plaintiffs complain of a past risk of physical injury to which they were allegedly exposed because of defendants’ fraud. But because that risk never materialized, plaintiffs have suffered no injury in fact and lack Article III standing.” Id. at *5. |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21227 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
... Apart from the PTSD of nearly being killed?... ... Or the mental anguish of nearly being murdered by corporate greed?... Not to mention the disillusionment that such deadly nefariousness was perpetrated?... Fly safe?! Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31009 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
some bullets just might jump into a gun and then the gun might point itself at you and then the gun might fire --- oh the PTSD The Fifth Circuit Court or Appeals is correct, imaginary damages are imaginary. |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21227 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
See for yourselves for the latest games of life from Boeing: blancolirio: $30 Billion Boeing Aircraft Order UPDATE! ... And EICAS? Maximus: Congress Say's NO To MAX Extension While EASA In Europe Says NO GO Unless The Max Upgrades Safety! "... an extension to the deadline for the MAX 10 and 7 to be extended to add safety measures to their aircraft..."?! Is it only EASA that will save us all?... So... Which is safer when suffering some 'anomaly'?
See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19401 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
U.S. lawmakers back key Boeing 737 MAX deadline waiver WASHINGTON, Dec 20 (Reuters) - Boeing Co (BA.N) won backing from Congress early on Tuesday to lift a looming deadline imposing a new safety standard for modern cockpit alerts for two new versions of the U.S. planemaker's best-selling 737 MAX aircraft. |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21227 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Indeed so... Deadly so? See: Maximus Aviation: Congress SAVES The Boeing Max 10 & 7 - Extends Certification Deadline To 2027 In New Budget Bill! blancolirio: Boeing 737 MAX -7-10 UPDATE! "Congress Relieves Itself" There are some unusually 'choice' words from both for that deadly serious saga... Really? Is Boeing "Too Big To Fail"?... ... And is the Boeing Board profiteering from that?... (And pilots, crew, and passengers be damned?...) Fly safe folks??... Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 36800 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
Well I hope that this project with NASA isn't as problem and cost plagued as others have been. NASA and Boeing Are Teaming Up to Create a Sleek New Jet That Could Burn 30% Less Fuel. The space agency announced Wednesday that it’s partnering with Boeing to create a new airliner to further advance sustainability within the industry. The duo will build a full-scale demonstrator aircraft aimed at lowering emissions and increasing fuel efficiency. It is expected to hit the skies in the late 2020s. |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21227 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Moving towards a long long overdue move...? 737 Max crashes: Boeing in court on fraud charge wrote: Aircraft giant Boeing will answer a fraud charge in court later over two plane crashes which killed 346 people. Really? Is Boeing too big to fail and too big to sue?... This case is quite The Test... Fly safely?... Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Dr Who Fan Send message Joined: 8 Jan 01 Posts: 3345 Credit: 715,342 RAC: 4 |
In Fort Worth, 737 Max crash victim families scold Justice Dept. in Boeing fraud case Thirteen people who are relatives of victims of Boeing 737 Max crashes in October 2018 and March 2019 told Judge Reed O’Connor of memories they held and of plans that were upended by the catastrophes. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31009 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Boeing was found to have failed to disclose information about the system but avoided a trial by agreeing to pay $2.5bn (£1.8bn) in fines and compensation. Chose your words very carefully. If cases are settled, there are no findings. If this mess goes to trial Boeing can win by blaming the entire thing on the test pilot failing to report the issues, the airlines, who should be sophisticated enough to know that they needed AOA disagree software, the maintenance company that failed to properly fix the AOA sensors and the entire rest of the Swiss cheese alignment in the chain of events. |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21227 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
The story so far: Maximus Aviation: Judge ORDERS Boeing To Be Arraigned On FELONY Charges For The 737 Max Crashes - Pleads NOT GUITY! wrote: ... what punishment Boeing could face and we will take a look back at how Boeing lost its way... Fly safely?... Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31009 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
The story so far: Do you refer to this SINGLE count? https://www.justice.gov/criminal-vns/file/1482906/download in reference to https://www.justice.gov/criminal-vns/file/1482911/download |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21227 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
The story so far: Thanks greatly for those two links. So... Legalities aside... Does not that second document in effect have Boeing admit that Boeing Directors/employees acted deadly fraudulently? All regardless of the DoJ "Sweetheart" "deal" that Boeing is "let off free" but isn't to 'willfully' kill any other passengers and crew within 3 years?... Is USA justice really so open to 'convenient' 'deals'?! When did Boeing first offer to pay that DoJ Attorney money and a cozy career??... Fly safely?? Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31009 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Legalities are everything.The story so far: Does not that second document in effect have Boeing admit that Boeing Directors/employees acted deadly fraudulently?Court refused it ergo it does not exist. Is USA justice really so open to 'convenient' 'deals'?!better that 90% of cases are deals. |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19401 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
New Dreamliner delivery halt Feb 24 (Reuters) - Shares of Boeing Co (BA.N) fell 3.9% on Friday after the U.S. planemaker temporarily halted deliveries of its 787 Dreamliner jets over a documentation issue related to a fuselage component. |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21227 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Thanks for that. Maximus gives a good summary with: Boeing HALTS ALL 787 Deliveries As New Defects Are Found. More Nightmares For Boeing's Dreamliner! Also, sadly, we have ongoing: MAX Families DENIED! Court Crushes All Hope By Denying Request To Undo Boeing/DOJ Secret Dirty Deal! Whatever next for deadly greed? Fly safe?? Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
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