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MOMMY: He is MAKING ME Read His Posts Thoughts and Prayers. GOoD Thoughts and GOoD Prayers. HATERWORLD Vs THOUGHTs and PRAYERs World. It Is a BATTLE ROYALE. Nobody LOVEs Me. Everybody HATEs Me. Why Don't I Go Eat Worms. Tasty Treats are Wormy Meat. Yes Send message Joined: 16 Jun 02 Posts: 6895 Credit: 6,588,977 RAC: 0 |
da MORE PROFITs a Business Has - dA MORE SAFETY can be Implemented. LOSING Money aka Less or NO PROFITs - Will NOT Pay fo da SAFETY Measures. SUPERYap May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!! |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19407 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
da MORE PROFITs a Business Has -dA MORE SAFETY can be paid in bonuses and to the share holders. The accountants will tell you spending a billion or so, on more safety is a waste of money, when the cost of insuring to cover the costs of the few accidents, is only a few million/year. |
Dr Who Fan Send message Joined: 8 Jan 01 Posts: 3348 Credit: 715,342 RAC: 4 |
Boeing set to move headquarters to Arlington, Virginia, sources say Don't know why was not done in the first place some years back when they wanted Corp HQ out of Seattle area. Chi-Town costs for rent, talent, etc much higher than Arlington VA. |
MOMMY: He is MAKING ME Read His Posts Thoughts and Prayers. GOoD Thoughts and GOoD Prayers. HATERWORLD Vs THOUGHTs and PRAYERs World. It Is a BATTLE ROYALE. Nobody LOVEs Me. Everybody HATEs Me. Why Don't I Go Eat Worms. Tasty Treats are Wormy Meat. Yes Send message Joined: 16 Jun 02 Posts: 6895 Credit: 6,588,977 RAC: 0 |
Yeah Baby!!!!! Arlington, VA. Where I was Born Baby!!!! Stay Safe Baby!!!!!! Make Profits Baby!!!! SUPERYap May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!! |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31015 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
da MORE PROFITs a Business Has -dA MORE SAFETY can be paid in bonuses and to the share holders. BINGO - Ford Pinto gas tanks. |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19407 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
China air crash that killed 132 may have been deliberate, says US report WSJ sources suggest black box recorders from Boeing 737-800 indicate intentional input from cockpit |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31015 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
China air crash that killed 132 may have been deliberate, says US reportWSJ sources suggest black box recorders from Boeing 737-800 indicate intentional input from cockpit CFIT. https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=85359&postid=2096309#2096309 |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 36873 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
Yes, and sadly having actual footage of that crash really left it beyond doubt that it was a controlled dive overriding both aerodynamic principles and electronic fail safes. :-(China air crash that killed 132 may have been deliberate, says US reportWSJ sources suggest black box recorders from Boeing 737-800 indicate intentional input from cockpit |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21253 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
The sorry (deadly?) saga of Boeing continues: (All just my own uneducated personal viewpoint as always...) Boeing is losing the plane race. So it packed up and left for Washington wrote: Boeing is moving its headquarters from Chicago to a suburb of Washington, DC. But some analysts think this move is one in the wrong direction. Boeing unveils new safety plan that sharpens focus and culture wrote: Boeing has published its 2022 Chief Aerospace Safety Officer Report which reveals a host of major changes to sharpen focus and improve culture... FAA finds Boeing 787 certification documents wrote: Deliveries of the 787 have been halted for a year as Boeing addressed inspections and repairs in an industrial headache expected to cost $5.5 billion... FAA plans tighter reins than normal on Boeing wrote: The manufacturer this week was denied a standard request for a new, five-year period for self-regulation by the FAA, with the regulator instead opting to delegate that authority for only three years. Boeing clashes with key supplier ahead of Starliner spacecraft launch wrote: ... at odds over the cause of a problem involving fuel valves in the Starliner propulsion system that forced a postponement of a test flight last July, with the two companies faulting one another... Boeing's Starliner encounters propulsion problems on way to ISS wrote: ... Boeing's Starliner capsule was heading for the International Space Station Thursday, in a critical uncrewed test flight that followed years of failures and false starts... Boeing’s Starliner spacecraft lands in New Mexico after successful test flight wrote: Boeing’s Starliner spacecraft parachuted to a “picture perfect” landing in southern New Mexico Wednesday, capping a six-day test flight to the International Space Station... What's next for Boeing's Starliner capsule after historic space station mission? wrote: Starliner could fly astronauts for the first time later this year... Are NASA and Boeing getting overconfident about Starliner? wrote: Yesterday, Boeing gave Starliner a score of 15 out of a possible 10! Was the test flight really this good? Or is this the kind of hubris that we saw at NASA just prior to the Challenger disaster... NASA to buy 5 more astronaut missions from SpaceX wrote: ... Assuming the newly purchased five flights continue in sequence after Crew-9, the contract modification would bring SpaceX through mission Crew-14... Boeing stock sinks to new 52-week low after latest string of depressing news wrote: Boeing (NYSE:BA) closed -4.8% in Thursday's trading, touching a new two-year intraday low of $120.28, and shares have shed 26% since the company's big Q1 earnings miss on April 27, when it also said it would pause production of the 777X at least through 2023. What do you believe? Will this unnecessarily risk the death/killing of yet more people for the sake of deadly greedy corporate (and directors' personal) profit? Stay safe folks! Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22540 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
Having been involved at the sharp end pf the compliance industry.... It is not uncommon for early issues of so called compliance demonstration documents to be both inadeqiate and incomplete. Why do I say both? Incomplete means they don't cover all the required clauses of the standards. Inadaequate means that the responses to clauses does not clearly and unequivocally demonsttate compliance with one or more clauses of a given stamdard. It's no good saying "We comply" without the appropriate demonstration of compliance. Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21253 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Is this the lawsuit that will eventually force the Boeing 'accountants' to reassess the price of a life? A New Six BILLION Dollar Suit Has Be Filed Against Boeing By Family Members Of A Lion Air Passenger wrote: ... This suit also [personally] names former CEO Dennis Muilenburg along with present Boeing CEO Dave Calhoun and former Chief Test Pilot Mark Forkner. Also for quite an eye-opener:
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ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21253 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Viewing a bit of a recap for Boeing and some latest updates, see: Why Boeing Should Retire The Max And Build .... An Airbus! The True Shocking Reason The DOJ Didn't Criminally Charge Boeing Executives Over The Max Southwest Forced Boeing To Hide MCAS From FAA & World Regulators To Avoid Costly Pilot Training Delayed 3 More Years! Will Boeing EVER Get The New Air Force One 747-8i's Off The Ground? From my own personal uneducated view: There's a deadly unhealthy mix of design, politics, and greed, all mixed up in there... Fly safe?... All in our deadly greedy world... Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Dr Who Fan Send message Joined: 8 Jan 01 Posts: 3348 Credit: 715,342 RAC: 4 |
.. *and pack a few extra sets of underwear for the flight* |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21253 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Boeing continues to 'test the fortitude of your underwear'... Boeing 737 MAX mid-air emergencies revealed, US agency to probe production issues wrote: ... The incidents, pulled from US government air safety databases, are among more than 60 mid-flight problems reported by pilots in the 12 months after the US Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) recertified the plane's airworthiness in late 2020. Boeing THREATENS to CANCEL 737-10 wrote: Boeing is threatening the cancellation of the 737-10, the largest aircraft in the series, and one threat is currently attempting to seek approval from the aviation governing bodies... This is 2022. Many people have died on the Boeing 737 (in my personal uneducated view, completely preventably unnecessarily). AND YET! Boeing continue to build and sell aircraft to old fundamentally outdated safety standards, completely ignoring what has been learnt for safe flying since the 1960s!!! Why should Boeing continue to be 'excused'?... Stay safe folks! Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31015 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Martin, I'm sure you'll like this ... https://finance.yahoo.com/news/boeing-company-nyse-ba-shares-131058451.html |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21253 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Martin, I'm sure you'll like this ... Thanks and wow!... There are some pretty wild assumptions to dream up those future numbers... Like for example, no more Boeing 737s killing everyone on board... And, really, will the FAA "roll over and die" and allow the 737-MAX-10 to fly without following all present day modern safety standards?... So, from that article we have the warning: Snowflake Score Valuation 4/6 Future Growth 5/6 Past Performance 0/6 Financial Health 0/6 Dividends 0/6 Why should that financial leopard suddenly so drastically change its spots? Stay safe folks! Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22540 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
Just how much was in that brown envelope??? Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31015 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
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W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19407 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Just an update on the latest Boeing news. Wide-body jet demand humming again as Boeing 787 rejoins the fray PARIS/WASHINGTON, Aug 12 (Reuters) - Boeing Co's (BA.N) 787 Dreamliner has returned to the world market for newly delivered aircraft at a time when demand for wide-body jetliners is finally stirring to life after a prolonged slump. |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21253 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
So... What is Boeing up to now?... Review: Boeing Boeing... wrote: AS ONE door opens, another closes - quite literally... A farce award?!!!... But, but, but... Lest I thought this was a human-lives-safety-critical safety-conscious industry?... With that we have: FAA Approves Boeing Inspection & Modification Plan To Restart 787 Deliveries wrote: After 15 months of halted deliveries, The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) has given the green light to Boeing’s inspection and modification plan for the Boeing 787 Dreamliner... Boeing delivers first 787 Dreamliner since 2021 with jet for American Airlines wrote: ... Boeing has ~120 of the planes awaiting delivery. Boeing takes another Starliner charge against its earnings wrote: Boeing said July 27 it will take another charge against its earnings because of the CST-100 Starliner commercial crew program as the company and NASA get closer to a first flight of the vehicle with astronauts on board... Boeing slammed with another FAA airworthiness directive on 777 aircraft wrote: The latest directive and ongoing aircraft certification hurdles affecting Boeing’s 737, 787 and 777X aircraft models... Meanwhile, years later for some of the victims: Lion Air victims get payout after Boeing settlement cash vanishes wrote: US law firm takes rare step of compensating families after California lawyer fails to hand over settlement money... Reducing the Starliner CFT mission from six months down to two weeks is curious... Are there lingering concerns about corrosion accumulating to cause the thruster valves to jam/fail?... Meanwhile... Have any of the Boeing board yet suffered any penalties?... Fly safe?... Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
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