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Message 2043873 - Posted: 9 Apr 2020, 17:22:44 UTC - in response to Message 2043644.  

Do the drives show up in the bios...if not are the ports disabled or set to raid instead of ahci.


They do not show up in the bios, everything is set at default, and no overclocking , all sata ports are enabled and default set at ACHI.
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Message 2043644 - Posted: 8 Apr 2020, 5:49:54 UTC - in response to Message 2043636.  

Do the drives show up in the bios...if not are the ports disabled or set to raid instead of ahci.
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Message 2043636 - Posted: 8 Apr 2020, 4:30:33 UTC - in response to Message 2043630.  
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3. Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 3200MHz ( i have 4 intalled =32gb)

Only 16GB showing on the BOINC info there, but that seems to be a BOINC issue- my system with 32GB of RAM only shows up as 16GB in the project system specs also.


Threadrippers are Quad channel boards, so with 4 DIMMs, 4 slots will still be empty so you need to make sure they are in the right slots to get maximum memory performance and enable Quad channel mode- which appears to be the light coloured DIMM slots. 2 on one side of the CPU, 2 on the other.
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Message 2043633 - Posted: 8 Apr 2020, 4:14:00 UTC - in response to Message 2043632.  
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Grant: NO yellow , all 3 are are clear. Under General it says " this device is working properly" Under DETAILS " Standard SATA AHCI Controller"
I give up. LOL

So, as i posted in my previous post-
Have you tried a different SATA port on the motherboard? On my motherboard, when using an M.2 drive it means one of the SATA ports is no long usable. The only other thing that comes to mind would be to try a different power supply (or at least a different SATA power connector).

If the controller on the motherboard is OK (which it appears to be) the only things left are the drive, the data lead, or the power to the drive- or the port on the motherboard being used has an issue. Maybe try them all? A dodgy port OK, but no way all of them would be dead if the controller itself is OK.


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Looking at the manual for the Strix X399-E Gaming sTR4, the extra lanes the CPU supports means the M.2 drive doesn't reduce the number of usable SATA ports.
So i'd try a couple of others to see if they will get the HDD recognised. As i said- if the controller is OK (which the OS considers it to be) the problem then can only be the data lead, the HDD, it's power supply, or the port on the motherboard. And the odds of all the ports on the motherboard being dead, and the controller OK, are pretty damn remote.
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Message 2043632 - Posted: 8 Apr 2020, 4:07:24 UTC - in response to Message 2043622.  

Grant: NO yellow , all 3 are are clear. Under General it says " this device is working properly" Under DETAILS " Standard SATA AHCI Controller"
I give up. LOL
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Message 2043631 - Posted: 8 Apr 2020, 3:57:49 UTC - in response to Message 2043626.  

I will give it a shot.
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Message 2043630 - Posted: 8 Apr 2020, 3:54:23 UTC - in response to Message 2043593.  

Bonze82: Some purchases are from Amazon and some from Newegg.
Computer one is an = AMD Ryzen 7 2700X 8-Core 3.7 GHz (4.3 GHz Max Boost) Socket AM4. ( from Amazon)
2. ASUS AM4 TUF GAMING X570-Plus ATX Motherboard with PCIe 4.0, Dual M.2, 12+2 with Dr. MOS Power Stage, HDMI, DP, SATA
6 Gb/s, USB 3.2 Gen 2 and Aura Sync RGB Lighting ( copied and pasted from Newegg web site)
3. Corsair Force MP600 M.2 2280 1TB PCI-Express Gen 4.0 x4 NVMe 3D TLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
4. Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 3200MHz( believe this is what i have in the x570 i can't remember)
5. I can't find the graphics card on website but it is an Radeon rx550 4 GB GDDR 5.

Computer 2= AMD 2nd Gen Ryzen Threadripper 24-Core, 48-Thread, 2970WX 4.2 GHz Max Boost (3.0 GHz Base), Socket sTR4.
2. ASUS ROG Strix X399-E Gaming sTR4 AMD X399 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 Extended ATX AMD Motherboard
3. Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 3200MHz ( i have 4 intalled =32gb)
4. Corsair Force MP600 M.2 2280 1TB PCI-Expre ss Gen 4.0 x4 NVMe 3D TLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) CSSD-F1000GBMP60
and 3 Sata drives that won't work on these boards.
5. XFX RX-570P8DFD6 Radeon RX 570 RS XXX Edition 1286MHz, 8gb GDDR5, DX12 VR Ready, Dual BIOS, 3xDP HDMI DVI, AMD
That's all folks.
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Message 2043626 - Posted: 8 Apr 2020, 3:17:31 UTC - in response to Message 2043619.  

Ok clear your cmos and set the clock. After clearing the cmos you should see the sata drives connected (center of screen). If the drives are connected make sure they say ahci and not raid. Then make sure your ram modules are all listed if one is not listed I suspect half aren't listed save bios and power down and reseat them all and check the bios again. If the drives still aren't listed remove all of the drives including ssd's and boot to bios then shutdown plug in just your sata disks and see if they show up in bios if not you have a possible northbridge problem if they are listed shutdown and put the ssd's back in and boot to bios again and make sure the drives are still seen if not the bios may have a bug that disables sata drives when ssd's are connected. If thats the case you sol until fixed...try linux as the kernel has many bios and cpu workarounds for issues like these and you never have to restart for updates. My server/gateway is an old a4-4000 running 16gig of ram and debian buster for 120 days straight. ASUS A55M-E that i got cheap 8 years ago 26 TB worth of storage.

I have an old asus board M5A78L-M that was doa turns out it was playing dead I had to strip everything off of the board even the cpu, pull the bios and flash it in my spi flasher and put it back, and post the bare board to get it to come back. ASUS boards can sometimes be finiky, it has since died.
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Message 2043622 - Posted: 8 Apr 2020, 2:54:50 UTC - in response to Message 2043619.  

The boards like the NVMe's ,but not sata. In Device manager under IDE ATA/ATAPI shows three lines "Standard SATA/ AHCI Controller." and under disk drives only the NVMe Force MP600.
And no yellow ! next to it? Right clicking on "Standard SATA AHCI controller" and then on Properties gives "The device is working properly" in the General tab?
*scratches head*
Weird.
The OS recognises the controller, but it's not working.
Have you tried a different SATA port on the motherboard? On my motherboard, when using an M.2 drive it means one of the SATA ports is no long usable. The only other thing that comes to mind would be to try a different power supply (or at least a different SATA power connector).
If the controller on the motherboard is OK (which it appears to be) the only things left are the drive, the data lead, or the power to the drive- or the port on the motherboard being used has an issue. Maybe try them all? A dodgy port OK, but no way all of them would be dead if the controller itself is OK.
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Message 2043619 - Posted: 8 Apr 2020, 2:25:43 UTC - in response to Message 2043591.  

No, they are not spinning or making any kind of noise. Tried different cables, different sata slots, and also on my other m/b, ASUS AM4 TUF GAMING X570-Plus ATX Motherboard , NOTHING. These 2 boards don't see anything Sata.
I have 2 = Corsair Force MP600 M.2 2280 1TB PCI-Express Gen 4.0 x4 NVMe 3D TLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) in each computer. The boards like the NVMe's ,but not sata. In Device manager under IDE ATA/ATAPI shows three lines "Standard SATA/ AHCI Controller." and under disk drives only the NVMe Force MP600.
Thanks Grant.
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Message 2043613 - Posted: 8 Apr 2020, 1:44:51 UTC - in response to Message 2043593.  

Computer 2 only shows 16gb of ram or is the 16gb of ram a boinc ram limit.
32GB on one of my systems. There are others with 500GB and more running BOINC projects.
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Message 2043593 - Posted: 8 Apr 2020, 0:22:35 UTC - in response to Message 2043568.  
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Computer 2 only shows 16gb of ram or is the 16gb of ram a boinc ram limit.

The hard drives issue is next to tackle, if the ram is a boinc ram limit, are the drives in question hooked to a pci(e) card or straight to the mobo. If the mobo make sure ahci is enabled, if a separate controller card make sure it's supported by windows.

Just my 2 cents, I've had a lot of good luck with the Lsi Logic SAS-9211 card and splitter cables however you have to flash the card bios for IT mode for ahci I'm getting 6 gb/s/disk cached reads at the same time.

EDIT: One of the three works tells me something else is going on...possible bad controller card / port / cable maybe a bios bug. My Asus M55-E will only run one drive at sata 3 and ignores the rest of the ports (bios limitation) in windows and linux sees all of the drives and runs them all at sata2 hence the lsi card.
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Message 2043591 - Posted: 8 Apr 2020, 0:13:59 UTC - in response to Message 2043568.  

The only other outstanding issue is that bios still does not see any sata devices that are connected. I have several sata drives that i use as backup, and both of them were working fine until i installed them into the new m/b's. I have 3 HDD's and none of them work. Frustrating.
Are they spinning up as power is applied? Have you tried different data cables? Does the SATA controller show up in Device Manager (IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers)?
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Message 2043568 - Posted: 7 Apr 2020, 21:31:43 UTC - in response to Message 2043440.  

Hello Grant: I did what you suggested a few posts ago. I deleted everything and re-installed win10. I then updated all the drivers and then installed Boinc again. And voila, i now have 48 threads. All is running fine. The only other outstanding issue is that bios still does not see any sata devices that are connected. I have several sata drives that i use as backup, and both of them were working fine until i installed them into the new m/b's. I have 3 HDD's and none of them work. Frustrating.
Thanks again for your help.
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Message 2043481 - Posted: 7 Apr 2020, 10:41:42 UTC - in response to Message 2043440.  

Seeing how he got a new hostID and he's running Windows 10 x64 Pro, I suspect he's replaced his motherboard.
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Message 2043440 - Posted: 7 Apr 2020, 2:27:14 UTC - in response to Message 2043437.  
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And yet I still have an issue with the Seagate Barracuda 2 TB HDD. All sata ports are enabled but Bios still can't see it.
Try that drive in another system, or another drive in that system. Also try another SATA data lead.


EDIT- and what was the fix with the CPU cores not all being recognised?
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Message 2043437 - Posted: 7 Apr 2020, 2:12:24 UTC - in response to Message 2043005.  

I have now only 2 computers doing Boinc work., Computer 1 - AMD Ryzen 7 2700, 8 core 16 threads cpu, 16GB of ram and 4 GB VRAM, this system is working fine.
Computer 2 - is an AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2970wx cpu, 24 core 48 threads with 32GB of ram and 8GB VRAM. It is now working fine with Boinc work. And yet I still have an issue with the Seagate Barracuda 2 TB HDD. All sata ports are enabled but Bios still can't see it.
I would like to thank everyone who pitched in.
THANK YOU.
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Message 2043005 - Posted: 4 Apr 2020, 21:03:35 UTC

Three computers on that account:
1. https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=8881812 8x core 16x cpu 16 gig of ram
2. https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=8908881 24x core 48x cpu 16 gig of ram
3. https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=8924476 24x core 32x cpu 16 gig of ram same as #2

Computer 1 and 2 seem ok they do need a catalyst update and need to have virtualization enabled, check after you enable on both...now onto computer 3 which is the problem computer.

Computer 3 needs a os update which might be the entire problem although not seeing the full 32gig of ram is troubling. First off try disabling virtualization in the bios and see if that fixes the issues, if so start the move over to linux. The reason I asked to see the dmidecode of the system is due to the possibility that the bios (even thought it might be up to date and report fixes in release notes they might not work correctly) might be part of the problem, every time you update your bios completely remove catalyst, not just a uninstall, and restart then reinstall catalyst and restart again. If you update your chipset driver completely uninstall catalyst and restart, update chipset driver, restart, then install catalyst. Microsoft uses a stripped down and highly customized version of busybox (linux) which windows runs on top of since windows vista.

For example I have a system that randomly fails to boot (and randomly crashes or has drive issues or has other random issues including reading odd ram sizes) with more than 16 gigs I had 4 slots I packed them with 8g 8g 4g 4g sticks (24gig) and it goes nuts I pack it with 8g 8g or 8g 4g 4g and it runs flawlessly even with different speed ram modules with different timings. A dmidecode would indicate this situation would also indicate if the chipset was doing something wonky. Also if there are issues with the bios (frequent) the issues will arise with linux as windows ignores the issues and continues to boot the best way it can and some manu's will release drivers or software to help windows bypass known issues (ASUS is known for this).
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Message 2042900 - Posted: 4 Apr 2020, 7:18:25 UTC - in response to Message 2042897.  

Commendable that you try to help and all, but the 3 gig RAM limit you bite yourself into is of his AMD videocard, not his main RAM. That is neatly recognized as 16GB, and his Windows as 10 x64: https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=8881812
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Message 2042897 - Posted: 4 Apr 2020, 6:48:48 UTC
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Ok very dumb question and late to the party...the 3 gig ram limit is a very telling issue with windows are you sure you installed windows 10 64-bit. Also a couple of other issues might be at play here run memtest86+ and see how much ram it shows you have and let the tests finish, should show it all if not does your motherboard show it all and support it all. Then if your sure you have windows 10 64bit and memtest86 showed no issues download a linux live cd and burn it and run it I suggest debian and open terminal (bottom left next to desktop) copy whats inside of quotes "fdisk -l && dmidecode -t 0 -t 3 -t 4 -t 32 -t MEMORY && lspci" and paste into terminal (edit->paste) and hit enter and post results here (edit->select all->edit->copy). Myself or others can then help you debug down to the board or down to the OS with this information.
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