Well, given the present situation with the Virus, while i still have a job (unlike so many) the amount of work to do is expected to fall off a cliff, and the chance of me seeing any overtime for the remainder of the year is basically none. Even if i don't end up being stood down without pay at some stage.
So even if Seti were still running i'd be taking my GPUs out of commission and just running my CPUs (and maybe only one of them at that) so i can afford to keep paying my mortgage. So while i may join up with a CPU only project, it's most likely going to be a case removing that portion from my power bill as well, to get me through the hard slog ahead.
Things have become dire indeed.

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Well Rosetti@H stopped giving me Corona-19 labeled tasks to crunch :(

Oh, well. Crunch on, crunch on.

Tom

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"I owe", "I owe", "Its off to work I go" (from a bumper sticker on a smallish Mercedes Benz)
(on the back of a Semi Tractor) "If you can read this bumper sticker, I've LOST MY TRAILER!"

Other Note: Rosetti@Home uses significantly more memory than Seti@Home. So you may get a "waiting for memory" message.

And I had to reduce available memory in BOINC to 75% when a user is active or the screen response became very, very sluggish.

@Tom Not all has mining machines with 10+ GPUs as you. Each Rosetta task uses up to 1 GB IIRC so it's fine for most of the regular hosts. I just not run, for now, because they only has CPU apps and all my available cores are used to feed the GPU's for the SETI last days. After that i will join there. They need all the computer power we could spare to help in the fight with the evil virus.

True but I was making note of this on a 3 gpu box with 16GB memory https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=8853145 which is also running other cpu tasks. Specifically World Community Grid (which has other tasks I have a high interest in).

I agree if you don't have another CPU oriented project that you are committed to then running all Rosetti@Home makes sense. As it is, unless I buy more ram it doesn't look like I could run 28 threads of Rosetti@Home on this box.
Even running 2 threads of Rosetti has caused other CPU tasks to say "waiting for memory". Only when I dropped it to 1 has the waiting for memory message gone away.

I am part of the "high risk" group that Corona-19 seems to like to kill. We have had 2 deaths in my US State (Kansas).

But I am also reading the my News Feeds which now claims that with the addition of at least one Super Computer Folding@Home is the fastest computer "system" currently on the planet. The claim is it is faster than the next 7 computers on the Top 100 Exascale list.

So I am not willing to shutdown my other commitments completely to help pursue another Corona-19 cure/treatment/therapy.

Tom

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"I owe", "I owe", "Its off to work I go" (from a bumper sticker on a smallish Mercedes Benz)
(on the back of a Semi Tractor) "If you can read this bumper sticker, I've LOST MY TRAILER!"

Other Note: Rosetti@Home uses significantly more memory than Seti@Home. So you may get a "waiting for memory" message.

And I had to reduce available memory in BOINC to 75% when a user is active or the screen response became very, very sluggish.

@Tom Not all has mining machines with 10+ GPUs as you. Each Rosetta task uses up to 1 GB IIRC so it's fine for most of the regular hosts. I just not run, for now, because they only has CPU apps and all my available cores are used to feed the GPU's for the SETI last days. After that i will join there. They need all the computer power we could spare to help in the fight with the evil virus.

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Yes they don't have GPU apps unfortunately.
Please note nothing against Rosetta, i like the project and participate sometimes and wish to do that now.
But is a "relatively small" project who grows exponential in the last days, exactly maybe the Covid-19 crisis.

Some projects will let you pick the specific applications you want to run. So far I haven't been able to see where we can select the Corona-19 only.

Tom

Other Note: Rosetti@Home uses significantly more memory than Seti@Home. So you may get a "waiting for memory" message.

And I had to reduce available memory in BOINC to 75% when a user is active or the screen response became very, very sluggish.

Tom

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"I owe", "I owe", "Its off to work I go" (from a bumper sticker on a smallish Mercedes Benz)
(on the back of a Semi Tractor) "If you can read this bumper sticker, I've LOST MY TRAILER!"

Yes they don't have GPU apps unfortunately.
Please note nothing against Rosetta, i like the project and participate sometimes and wish to do that now.
But is a "relatively small" project who grows exponential in the last days, exactly maybe the Covid-19 crisis.

Some projects will let you pick the specific applications you want to run. So far I haven't been able to see where we can select the Corona-19 only.

Tom

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"I owe", "I owe", "Its off to work I go" (from a bumper sticker on a smallish Mercedes Benz)
(on the back of a Semi Tractor) "If you can read this bumper sticker, I've LOST MY TRAILER!"

Has anyone got a feel or experience with crunching for "Cosmology@Home"?

It seems to require a virtual machine and similar exotica.

Tom

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"I owe", "I owe", "Its off to work I go" (from a bumper sticker on a smallish Mercedes Benz)
(on the back of a Semi Tractor) "If you can read this bumper sticker, I've LOST MY TRAILER!"

Yes they don't have GPU apps unfortunately.
Please note nothing against Rosetta, i like the project and participate sometimes and wish to do that now.
But is a "relatively small" project who grows exponential in the last days, exactly maybe the Covid-19 crisis.
Just look theirs stats:

Computadores
With recent credit	95723
Registered in past 24 hours	22295

So about 1/4 of the computers are registered within in the last 24 hrs.
We need to keep that in mind to not swarm their server or we could do more harm than good.
Just remember S@H with all the DB and servers capacity problems . We have the responsibility to not allow that repeat there.
Keep the project running is very important. specialty because we, as species, needs their developments.
Who are their limits and how many host they could handle is a good question to ask there.

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I really wish Rosetta ran some gpu tasks. But apparently no such luck.

It's not a question of luck. They would have to write some GPU Applications first - and that's not a trivial exercise. Especially if you haven't programmed a GPU before.

Has anyone changed their minds?

A lot of people were going to E@H and Rosetta@Home (for corona19 crunching).

I really wish Rosetta ran some gpu tasks. But apparently no such luck.

Tom

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"I owe", "I owe", "Its off to work I go" (from a bumper sticker on a smallish Mercedes Benz)
(on the back of a Semi Tractor) "If you can read this bumper sticker, I've LOST MY TRAILER!"

Hi guys,

The info has been very useful, thank you. The list I have come up with is

750Ti 512
980Ti 2816 £150-175
1050Ti 768 £75
1060 1280
1080Ti 3584 £250
1660Ti 1536
Showing cores and s/h price.

I have two main choices, go for a 1050Ti as Richard recommends, or hold fire and see if a setizen wants to offload a 980Ti to a good home.

I'll have a thunk over a noggin or two (or three)

Cheers chaps

You could also get a brand-new GTX 1050 Ti 4GB, with benefit of full guarantee. The 1060 has been discontinued, so I can't do a direct comparison, but I have two crunching (7118033, 8121358) so you can get an idea of throughput. Like your existing 750 Ti, they require no additional power, which would make it an easy swap.

For that price I would get a GTX 1060 6GB

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Seti@Home classic workunits: 29,492 CPU time: 134,419 hours

Many thanks indeed Richard for the advice. As far as I know the power of Nvidia cards for crunching is in the number of shader cores. The extra leccy I will bear but I am looking for about 30-40% higher performance to make it worth upgrading. It's hard to beat the 980Ti without spending megabucks. Being an older card it should be lower in price. The 1080Ti might be a contender, not sure in my price range though.

Ok, throw it open. if I up it to £125 for a s/h card what could I get to make it worth upgrading?

p.s.Thankyou also Tom.

I'll take a big gamble and chance posting this here, as I'm not sure this is really the right place, or indeed any place.

I have been trying for a while now to upgrade my lowly GTX750Ti card to a GTX980Ti. But even second hand ones are £150-175. It occurs to me that in view of the forthcoming hibernation, some crunchers might just shut down some rigs rather than move to another project.

I would be quite happy to pay up to £100 for a s/h 980Ti card if anyone has one surplus to requirements to be used on FAH.

If you can find a used P100-102 it should give you barely sub-gtx 1080Ti performance at a much lower price. I found some for $250USD or less. It doesn't have any video output so if you need that its not going to fit.

A used gtx 1060 3GB will double the performance of a gtx750ti (personal experience under S@H). And use less electricity than a 980ti.

Tom

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"I owe", "I owe", "Its off to work I go" (from a bumper sticker on a smallish Mercedes Benz)
(on the back of a Semi Tractor) "If you can read this bumper sticker, I've LOST MY TRAILER!"

I think it's a fair question to ask. When the hibernation happens, people will make a choice: some will switch to another project, as you have done, and others will mothball their rigs and save on the electricity bills. Either is a perfectly reasonable response. And I think setting up a swap-shop for people making either adjustment could help.

But, talking of electricity - If I were you, I'd set your sights above a GTX980Ti. In the current scheme of things, that's an old and gas-guzzling technology. See what offers come up in the 10xx or 16xx ranges.

I'll take a big gamble and chance posting this here, as I'm not sure this is really the right place, or indeed any place.

I have been trying for a while now to upgrade my lowly GTX750Ti card to a GTX980Ti. But even second hand ones are £150-175. It occurs to me that in view of the forthcoming hibernation, some crunchers might just shut down some rigs rather than move to another project.

I would be quite happy to pay up to £100 for a s/h 980Ti card if anyone has one surplus to requirements to be used on FAH.

I don't think so, but the team (and individual) search behaves rather badly if it can't find a hit returning "Bad Gateway" instead of "not found".
It doesn't look as if anyone has started a team starting with "SETI".

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Bob Smith
Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society)
Somewhere in the (un)known Universe?

I can't get the team search to work on folding right now. Has anyone created a seti orphans team??

The only advice that I can give is to check out the memory requirements. Seti does not use memory as such, so you can turn down the GPU memory clock to the minimum to save heat output. Other projects do use high memory clocks for best performance.

Excellent point! On Einstein@Home I was surprised when some of my cpu tasks started displaying "waiting on memory". I may have to go out and buy an upgrade to 32 GB for that box.

I have not had that issue with World Community Grid. Does Folding at Home run both gpu and cpu tasks?

Tom

Yes, F@H runs on both.


TL

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