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Message 2046459 - Posted: 23 Apr 2020, 1:08:11 UTC

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<core_client_version>7.4.53</core_client_version>
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Maximum disk usage exceeded
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Is it BOINC error? Should I increase allowed space for BOINc in client settingto avoid such abortions?
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Message 2046461 - Posted: 23 Apr 2020, 1:22:48 UTC - in response to Message 2046459.  
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BTW
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<core_client_version>7.4.53</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<message>
Maximum disk usage exceeded
</message>
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Is it BOINC error? Should I increase allowed space for BOINc in client settingto avoid such abortions?
I've never had one of those errors.
I used to get plenty of "Insufficient disk space" notices, and after bumping it up the Tasks would then run.
I ended up with these settings for a 6c/12t (all in use) system.
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                              Use no more than 20 GB
                                Leave at least 2 GB free
                              Use no more than 60 % of total

Looking at the disk usage in the BOINC manager graph, it has varied between 9-13GB. Present usage is the highest i've seen so far, even after reducing my cache size further.
Roughly 1.2GB of storage space per Task run, and i'd allow 1.5GB RAM. For a less than 4 core system, you'd probably want to allow 2GB RAM per Task minimum.
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Message 2046462 - Posted: 23 Apr 2020, 1:23:09 UTC - in response to Message 2046459.  
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<core_client_version>7.4.53</core_client_version>
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<message>
Maximum disk usage exceeded
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<stderr_txt>

Is it BOINC error? Should I increase allowed space for BOINc in client settingto avoid such abortions?



Yes. Rosetta@Home uses over 17GB on my system currently. I would run the limit as high as you can stand till you see what is working and lower it.

I hadn't caught that it was unpacking the DB for each task. My impression is they were all running against one DB. I think I saw some "flags" files which is where I got that impression.

R@H uses both more memory and more disk space than anything else I have ever run.
The reason I added an SSD to my system before S@h went away is that my system was "thrashing" the HD. I could hear it and it was logging on very slowly.

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Message 2046479 - Posted: 23 Apr 2020, 7:44:40 UTC - in response to Message 2046459.  
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<core_client_version>7.4.53</core_client_version>
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<message>
Maximum disk usage exceeded
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<stderr_txt>

Is it BOINC error? Should I increase allowed space for BOINc in client settingto avoid such abortions?

Check what was the actual error that was reported. If it is 196 EXIT_DISK_LIMIT_EXCEEDED then the task was configured badly on server side and rsc_disk_bound value was set too low for the task (or the task really did have problems) We have seen a lot of these at LHC.
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Message 2046492 - Posted: 23 Apr 2020, 11:13:53 UTC - in response to Message 2046479.  

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It's E@h task for Android devices. And it has that -196 indeed:
Статус выхода: 196 (0x000000C4) EXIT_DISK_LIMIT_EXCEEDED

So should I complain on Einstein's forum about this (if it's server-side issue probably I should) ?
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Message 2046496 - Posted: 23 Apr 2020, 12:10:23 UTC - in response to Message 2046492.  
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https://einsteinathome.org/ru/task/942986989

It's E@h task for Android devices. And it has that -196 indeed:
Статус выхода: 196 (0x000000C4) EXIT_DISK_LIMIT_EXCEEDED

So should I complain on Einstein's forum about this (if it's server-side issue probably I should) ?

That is what I would do.
[Edit] There's a separate android app feedback thread in 'Problems and bug reports' at E@H forum.
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Message 2046509 - Posted: 23 Apr 2020, 13:23:05 UTC - in response to Message 2046496.  

https://einsteinathome.org/ru/task/942986989

It's E@h task for Android devices. And it has that -196 indeed:
Статус выхода: 196 (0x000000C4) EXIT_DISK_LIMIT_EXCEEDED

So should I complain on Einstein's forum about this (if it's server-side issue probably I should) ?

That is what I would do.
[Edit] There's a separate android app feedback thread in 'Problems and bug reports' at E@H forum.

Thanks, reported there.
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Message 2046536 - Posted: 23 Apr 2020, 15:39:33 UTC - in response to Message 2046454.  
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https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/forum_thread.php?id=13847&postid=95212

(facepalm)....

I'm starting to think if participants ever really realised how carelessly their computational resources and donated energy are used... BOINC would be turned off :/
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Message 2046541 - Posted: 23 Apr 2020, 15:52:15 UTC - in response to Message 2046536.  
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https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/forum_thread.php?id=13847&postid=95212

(facepalm)....

I'm starting to think if participants ever really realised how carelessly their computational resources and donated energy are used... BOINC would be turned off :/

We all will miss S@H with it's small, relatively low memory usage and fast to crunch Wu. :(
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Message 2046546 - Posted: 23 Apr 2020, 15:58:23 UTC - in response to Message 2046541.  
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https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/forum_thread.php?id=13847&postid=95212

(facepalm)....

I'm starting to think if participants ever really realised how carelessly their computational resources and donated energy are used... BOINC would be turned off :/

We all will miss S@H with it's small, relatively low memory usage and fast to crunch Wu. :(

Yep, but here I would stress another part - not just fast to crunch, but EFFECTIVELY crunched. W/o obvious wastes and dumb things.
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Message 2046550 - Posted: 23 Apr 2020, 16:08:30 UTC - in response to Message 2046546.  

Check how the <app_version>, <workunit>, and <result> sections are set up for those Rosetta tasks in client_state.xml. It ought to be possible to tweak those minirosetta_database copies into a softlink, leaving a single master copy in the project directory. Then, when you've tweaked it and tested it, teach them how to run BOINC efficiently!
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Message 2046551 - Posted: 23 Apr 2020, 16:16:40 UTC - in response to Message 2046550.  

Check how the <app_version>, <workunit>, and <result> sections are set up for those Rosetta tasks in client_state.xml. It ought to be possible to tweak those minirosetta_database copies into a softlink, leaving a single master copy in the project directory. Then, when you've tweaked it and tested it, teach them how to run BOINC efficiently!

Thanks, Richard. I'm already started to think how trick app on OS level... but if it's possible to do by own BOINC means - that would be much more right way.
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Message 2046590 - Posted: 23 Apr 2020, 20:27:37 UTC - in response to Message 2046536.  

https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/forum_thread.php?id=13847&postid=95212

(facepalm)....

I'm starting to think if participants ever really realised how carelessly their computational resources and donated energy are used... BOINC would be turned off :/

Interesting that no one who responded to you actually addressed the point and question you raised.
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Message 2046627 - Posted: 23 Apr 2020, 22:41:02 UTC - in response to Message 2046590.  

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(facepalm)....

I'm starting to think if participants ever really realised how carelessly their computational resources and donated energy are used... BOINC would be turned off :/

Interesting that no one who responded to you actually addressed the point and question you raised.


Well, actually one of very nice surprises - admins there _read_ the forums :)
Hope we will fight disease little faster now :D
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Message 2046665 - Posted: 24 Apr 2020, 1:49:27 UTC

Much to my amazement My RAC. which has dropped to 1/3 of what it was, has put me into the top 1%. So many Setizens have gone onto other things and I try to get what ever resends I can get.
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Message 2046688 - Posted: 24 Apr 2020, 4:56:11 UTC - in response to Message 2046665.  

Much to my amazement My RAC. which has dropped to 1/3 of what it was, has put me into the top 1%. So many Setizens have gone onto other things and I try to get what ever resends I can get.


Enjoy your shiny metal :-) It looks very nice
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Message 2046746 - Posted: 24 Apr 2020, 14:36:50 UTC

Created SETI Orphans on Ralph@home too.

https://ralph.bakerlab.org/team_display.php?teamid=6738
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Message 2046770 - Posted: 24 Apr 2020, 16:18:53 UTC - in response to Message 2046746.  

Created SETI Orphans on Ralph@home too.

https://ralph.bakerlab.org/team_display.php?teamid=6738


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Message 2046786 - Posted: 24 Apr 2020, 18:14:51 UTC - in response to Message 2046688.  

Much to my amazement My RAC. which has dropped to 1/3 of what it was, has put me into the top 1%. So many Setizens have gone onto other things and I try to get what ever resends I can get.


Enjoy your shiny metal :-) It looks very nice

Well that didn't last very long.
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Message 2046789 - Posted: 24 Apr 2020, 18:45:03 UTC - in response to Message 2046786.  

Much to my amazement My RAC. which has dropped to 1/3 of what it was, has put me into the top 1%. So many Setizens have gone onto other things and I try to get what ever resends I can get.


Enjoy your shiny metal :-) It looks very nice

Well that didn't last very long.


1% may have not lasted long but you are still in the top 5%, hang in there ;)

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