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Message 2045272 - Posted: 16 Apr 2020, 19:37:28 UTC - in response to Message 2045264.  

But I do not feel the connection with either project (however worthwhile) that I have enjoyed with S@H.

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Message 2045274 - Posted: 16 Apr 2020, 19:42:18 UTC - in response to Message 2036035.  

Hi,
Einstein seems to have open source code and it uses 45-88% GPU on my system.
Seems like it could need some optimizing. But but,... if it is OpenCL then I'd have to turn it to CUDA first ...


. . Stay tuned folks, this could get interesting :)

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Message 2045276 - Posted: 16 Apr 2020, 19:47:27 UTC - in response to Message 2036038.  

Hi,
Einstein seems to have open source code and it uses 45-88% GPU on my system.
Seems like it could need some optimizing. But but,... if it is OpenCL then I'd have to turn it to CUDA first ...

Hi petri, keep in mind they have two different types of tasks there, the low GPU utilized tasks must be the Gravity Wave task. it requires a lot of spare CPU support. I've seen 150% CPU thread per GPU. The Gamma Ray tasks pull only 100% CPU thread and have good 98% GPU utilization.
I would love to see if optimizations are possible there! tilt the scales back towards the nvidia cards :). as it stands, the project heavily favors AMD cards.


. . Hey, if this happens I might turn my 2 * GTX970 and 2 * GTX1060 rigs back on :) Those rigs have enough CPU threads to support both GPUs.

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Message 2045277 - Posted: 16 Apr 2020, 19:49:13 UTC - in response to Message 2045270.  

16/04/2020 22:28:32 | Einstein@Home | see scheduler log messages on https://einsteinathome.org/host/11977460/log

So, what it needs?? OpenCL here... what app requirements then?
is asking for 1 second of CUDA work, but says

[HOST#11977460] is looking for work from a non-preferred application

Have you ticked 'Use NVidia GPU' in project preferences?
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Message 2045278 - Posted: 16 Apr 2020, 19:51:13 UTC - in response to Message 2045270.  

About E@h:

I installed old NV 460SE GPU from another (currently disabled) host, but Einstein refuses to use it:

16/04/2020 22:28:15 | | CUDA: NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce GTX 460 SE (driver version 365.19, CUDA version 8.0, compute capability 2.1, 1024MB, 950MB available, 746 GFLOPS peak)
16/04/2020 22:28:15 | | OpenCL: NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce GTX 460 SE (driver version 365.19, device version OpenCL 1.1 CUDA, 1024MB, 950MB available, 746 GFLOPS peak)
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16/04/2020 22:28:18 | Einstein@Home | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
16/04/2020 22:28:18 | Einstein@Home | Requesting new tasks for NVIDIA GPU
16/04/2020 22:28:32 | Einstein@Home | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
16/04/2020 22:28:32 | Einstein@Home | No work sent
16/04/2020 22:28:32 | Einstein@Home | see scheduler log messages on https://einsteinathome.org/host/11977460/log
16/04/2020 22:28:32 | Einstein@Home | Gamma-ray pulsar binary search #1 on GPUs is not available for your type of computer.
16/04/2020 22:28:32 | Einstein@Home | Gravitational Wave search O2 Multi-Directional is not available for your type of computer.
16/04/2020 22:28:37 | Rosetta@home | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
16/04/2020 22:28:37 | Rosetta@home | Requesting new tasks for NVIDIA GPU
16/04/2020 22:28:39 | Rosetta@home | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks


So, what it needs?? OpenCL here... what app requirements then?


I think your card falls short in the available memory department. I found this old post at Einstein about minimum gpu requirements.

Right now I think the current GPU-linux requirements are:

- OpenCL 1.1 capable graphics card (this means GeForce 4xx and above)

- minimum 1 gig of memory on the graphics card

- 64 bit linux

Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours

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Message 2045279 - Posted: 16 Apr 2020, 19:53:04 UTC - in response to Message 2036322.  

The trick to managing work at E@H is to set a really, really small cache. Like 0.1days. Then you basically run on a "turn one in - get one" schedule.

. . I set their resource share to 0% and get one for one without changing cache settings.

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Message 2045283 - Posted: 16 Apr 2020, 19:57:34 UTC
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Well, I went to F@h and found no SETI Orphans team there !

So I created one!

Team number: 262364

Welcome to join !
(they promise to give COVID19 related work for GPUs )

EDIT: but seems it would be not so easy to make it coexist with BOINC.
It already took 1 CPU core... but left GPU idle :/

And no possibility to select COVID19, only cancer, parkinson and so on.
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Message 2045288 - Posted: 16 Apr 2020, 20:03:11 UTC - in response to Message 2036723.  

Perhaps we should all set up a new team called Seti Orphans, and go invade another project.. ? :-)

I like such idea! Maybe on different projects but the same team, SETI Orphans :)
Would be the honour to participate !
P.S. my personal choice would be Einstein@home as closest in spirit one.
Will see if it can feed all my different devices. Not compatible ones will search for new targets...


. . It would be an honour to follow :)

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Message 2045290 - Posted: 16 Apr 2020, 20:13:25 UTC - in response to Message 2045277.  
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16/04/2020 22:28:32 | Einstein@Home | see scheduler log messages on https://einsteinathome.org/host/11977460/log

So, what it needs?? OpenCL here... what app requirements then?
is asking for 1 second of CUDA work, but says

[HOST#11977460] is looking for work from a non-preferred application

Have you ticked 'Use NVidia GPU' in project preferences?


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Seems too old GPU for modern E@h indeed :/
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Message 2045294 - Posted: 16 Apr 2020, 20:30:40 UTC - in response to Message 2040470.  

Yep, so far 2020 has been hell around here. First, my favorite Cat died in January. In mid-February my 90 year old Bed-bound Dad died of something that fit all the symptoms of the Chinese virus. Of course, back then they weren't testing anyone for the Virus, especially if you had been in Hospice for over a year and Bed-bound. Then in March SETI died. I'm dreading April. The only Good thing that happened was no one in direct contact with my Dad has turned up ill...that I know of, and I'm finally receiving Social Security checks. Big changes. I suddenly have this overwhelming sense of Freedom. I'm not quite sure what to do with it yet, maybe I'll come up with a plan once all the paranoia ends. I'm perfectly healthy, and apparently have stared the evil in it's eye and held it's hand. Now if I could just find some TP in one of the stores...


. . It has been a bi^&h of a year here too, drought, massive bushfires then flooding. My dad died years ago but it is a hard time to get through, and the adopted stray cat that I was feeding disappeared about the time of S@H ending. Can't say I am feeling much freedom though. But otherwise I can sympathise with the battle against the blue meanies.

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Message 2045329 - Posted: 17 Apr 2020, 2:37:13 UTC

There's plenty of work on PrimeGrid. Give it a try.
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Message 2045378 - Posted: 17 Apr 2020, 12:14:11 UTC

Anyone trying to run Cosmology@Home?

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Message 2045380 - Posted: 17 Apr 2020, 12:21:07 UTC - in response to Message 2045378.  

I have been running the Legacy version on a Linux PC. The mt version always failed.
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Message 2045381 - Posted: 17 Apr 2020, 12:53:30 UTC - in response to Message 2043912.  


I give up, and detach that old computer.

I believe World Community Grid has tasks small enough to run in that restricted ram. And they claim they are working on a Coronavid19 project.
PrimeGrid's default 320 Sieve should be able to run also.
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. . WCG is definitely more user friendly ...

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Message 2045383 - Posted: 17 Apr 2020, 12:56:24 UTC - in response to Message 2043972.  


I give up, and detach that old computer.

I believe World Community Grid has tasks small enough to run in that restricted ram. And they claim they are working on a Coronavid19 project.
PrimeGrid's default 320 Sieve should be able to run also.
Tom

Do we have SETI Orphans team there already? If not would be nice to have!


. . Would be a good idea ...

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Message 2045401 - Posted: 17 Apr 2020, 13:57:27 UTC - in response to Message 2044297.  

Added Einstein and Rosetta on Linux host with NV GPU recently.
And can E@h use NV GPU under Linux? 1050Ti ran CUDA special before, now idle.... Or should I find third project or chage OS on that host?...
BTW, happy Cosmonautics day to all!!!! 12 April here already!!


. . Yes I have E@H running on both a GTX950 and a GTX1050ti under Linux. But one is on a Core2Duo, the other is on a Core2Quad and neither is crunching on the CPU.

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Message 2045402 - Posted: 17 Apr 2020, 14:02:32 UTC - in response to Message 2045383.  

Do we have SETI Orphans team there already? If not would be nice to have!


. . Would be a good idea ...

Stephen

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There already is a Seti Orphans team @wcg!
Anyone can use my shameless link to create an account with membership in team Seti Orphans: WCG team Seti Orphans
Aloha, Uli

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Message 2045403 - Posted: 17 Apr 2020, 14:04:22 UTC - in response to Message 2044319.  

there are linux nvidia (and AMD/ATI) GPU app available for both GW and GRP. you have to select them in your preferences on the website.
edit, if you're talking about your 1050ti system. you don't appear to have openCL drivers installed. the Einstein apps are openCL, not CUDA


. . Bingo! I had that issue too.

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Message 2045415 - Posted: 17 Apr 2020, 15:12:22 UTC

I'm trying different projects, trying to find a new "home".

I tried rosetta and with ya'll's help I managed to configure it the way I wanted. I got mainly covid WUs at first, then fewer and fewer covid WUs (at least that I could tell from the names), so I dumped that one.

I'm trying WCG now. I love how configurable it is. I can pick which projects and how many tasks from each project. I'll join the beta testing once I get some of these tasks done.

I'll move to Einstein eventually, but I'll work on covid stuff for now.
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Message 2045436 - Posted: 17 Apr 2020, 16:40:49 UTC - in response to Message 2045415.  

I'm trying different projects, trying to find a new "home".

I tried rosetta and with ya'll's help I managed to configure it the way I wanted. I got mainly covid WUs at first, then fewer and fewer covid WUs (at least that I could tell from the names), so I dumped that one.


If I understand it correctly on Rosetti@Home even if the task doesn't have Corona in the title it still helps the entire protein folding research process for Corona. So if you want to "help" any part of their Corona research you can run any of the tasks.

Don't get me wrong. I LOVE my World Community Grid flexibility and specific crunching control. I am at the moment have it setup for African Rainfall and Biome immune with any other project if those run out. When I was running it under the standard default settings last week I was getting 99 and 44/100's Cancer Search. I wanted some other stuff so I went back to the custom settings.

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