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Message 2057886 - Posted: 29 Sep 2020, 11:44:13 UTC - in response to Message 2035238.  

Realistically, I could see this coming because without advances in communication; well radio has it's limits wrt prospects for ET engaging in interplanetary communication. Communication with the moon (Apollo mission) had time delay people would rather not have. That said with quantum enmeshed particles being used for some secure communications now; until there is other technology to be on the search for as a possible work around to the time/distance problem...

Big question, probably many are thinking is updates to the BOINC software given many projects are now using it? We have a working platform now, but if hibernation continues long term, some projects might find need for updates in the years ahead. Especially if computer advances require software updates to continue to function well. Processor updates from Intel/AMD or Windows updates from Microsoft could necessitate software updates to avoid potential issues. New version of Windows and one's utilities stop functioning without software company provided support/newer versions is a prime example....

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Message 2057887 - Posted: 29 Sep 2020, 12:07:21 UTC - in response to Message 2057886.  

Development of the BOINC platform should continue as normal, despite the suspension of SETI as a project. The processes are separate, although there is some overlap of personnel between the two.

BOINC announced a new recommended version (7.16.11) earlier this month: this is available for Apple, Linux, and Windows. Many of the changes were required to cope with major changes in the Apple platform, confirming the points you make about the necessity of responding to external pressures.
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Message 2057903 - Posted: 29 Sep 2020, 15:48:56 UTC

SETI has paved the way to the BOINC platform, with 50 odd projects using it. I am now running projects dealing with Covid-19 instead of SETI@home.
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Message 2060075 - Posted: 27 Oct 2020, 11:04:36 UTC

Since I joined Seti@home in 1999, I have apparently provided 454 quadrillion floating point operations. By my calculations, the same could be achieved in under 5 hours on an Nvidia GeForce RTX 3080, recently announced. Makes you think.

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Message 2060148 - Posted: 28 Oct 2020, 16:45:10 UTC
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Nvidia has bought ARM, the holder of the Risc CPU patent rights. AMD has bought Xilinx, maker of FPGA chips. I have used a Risc minicomputer running Berkeley UNIX.
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Message 2060712 - Posted: 6 Nov 2020, 0:30:54 UTC

T_T

I was joined SETI at 2000 or 2001. and lost my account 2times.
at last seti project stopped...sad. is this fail to find?

I hope we could find ET somedays.

or..if someone already found ET!?
so no need to try find!?
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Message 2060730 - Posted: 6 Nov 2020, 7:01:10 UTC

Read the very first post in this thread https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=85267&sort_style=6&start=0, then read the whole of the Nebula thread https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_forum.php?id=1511 and you will see what is happening.
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Message 2061581 - Posted: 17 Nov 2020, 4:49:51 UTC - in response to Message 2035163.  

Seriously upsetting.
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Message 2061628 - Posted: 17 Nov 2020, 19:40:28 UTC

Just curious - read through the Nebula, most well over my head, but got me to wondering...
Though considering how long SETI ran, someone must have thought this (or it is totally wrong and irrelevant?):

Has anyone talked the radio telescope people into pointing their dish(s) at the furthest solid planet in our solar system that should reflect Earth's signals, and see what kind of data is returned by reflection off of it?
This would provide a sample of very strong signals to analyze and write algorithms to properly find real signals in.
This stuff is so far over my head - so if my question is meaningless - don't bother replying... but if it might have helped, something to think about.
Someone probably thought of this on the first day... LOL

Been with SETI since July 2000 - it has been fun, optimistic, and interesting...
Thanks and I will be ready if something comes up - like a Nebula analyzing BOINC app... ?

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Message 2061629 - Posted: 17 Nov 2020, 19:57:04 UTC - in response to Message 2061628.  
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Just curious - read through the Nebula, most well over my head, but got me to wondering...

... Has anyone talked the radio telescope people into pointing their dish(s) at the furthest solid planet in our solar system that should reflect Earth's signals, and see what kind of data is returned by reflection off of it?
This would provide a sample of very strong signals to analyze and write algorithms to properly find real signals in...

That's a very good thought and a good question...

As it happens, I believe that s@h has indeed detected signals from our various space probes that are drifting across our solar system.

We also have a multitude of signals detected that are inadvertent radar/radio reflections off aircraft flying around various parts of the world! A large part of the Nebula work is to develop new algorithms that can reliably distinguish between the many signals that have been found that originate from Earth, vs another multitude of signals that are random noise, vs anything else found that is not Earthly and not noise.

The filtering out of all the known stuff to then leave only what is truly unknown is the really hard bit! Hence the very real research work developing Nebula...



Been with SETI since July 2000 - it has been fun, optimistic, and interesting...
Thanks and I will be ready if something comes up - like a Nebula analyzing BOINC app... ?

Todd

Hey! Good going.

Yes, this is still a world leading interesting project. One that has evolved from the early days of whether something such as Boinc was even possible, to now deeply investigating the signal riches that we have found.

There is a lot more to come yet.

There are just the minor details of researcher time, research grants/funding, and developing Nebula or a parallel successor to guide how we search further and farther!!

Keep an eye on the forums for "what next"!


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Message 2061842 - Posted: 20 Nov 2020, 14:22:05 UTC - in response to Message 2061629.  

Hi Todd,

With limited resources Radio Amateurs are doing something in that way since the Seventies. They are using the moon as a reflector to bounce fast telegraphic signals back to earth, the so called Moon Bounce. Also ionised atmosphere by meteor showers are successfully used, Meteor Scatter. Mars and Venus have been used to reflect signals back to earth in order to test communication equipment for amateur radio satellites.
As an initiation test, using simple reception equipment, you can hear signature signals of objects entering the atmosphere by tuning on 143.050MHz frequency of the Graves surveillance radar located in Dijon, France. http://www.itr-datanet.com/~pe1itr/pdf/The%20143.050MHz%20Graves%20Radar%20a%20VHF%20Beacon.pdf

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Message 2061966 - Posted: 21 Nov 2020, 21:58:59 UTC

Joined with Pentium II back in 3rd of Apr 1999.

Thank you for good times everyone! :)
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Message 2064700 - Posted: 31 Dec 2020, 16:02:11 UTC

One more old timer just stopping by to look.
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Message 2064818 - Posted: 2 Jan 2021, 10:21:00 UTC

It's likely this site will become unavailable later today and for much of tomorrow (Sat 2 January 2021 - Sun 3 January 2021).

https://technology.berkeley.edu/dc-shutdown

Data Center Power Shutdown

We will be performing an infrastructure enhancement over the weekend of Saturday, Jan. 2 and Sunday, Jan. 3, 2021 which will require a complete shutdown of our campus Data Center. This work is required to support the campus research mission by enabling new research systems and to provide improved resilience for these systems when running on generator power during campus power outages.
Systems will likely be down from 8 a.m. on Saturday, Jan. 2 through 6 p.m. on Sunday, Jan. 3 (times are estimated).
That's 16:00 UTC Saturday until 02:00 UTC Monday.
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Message 2064825 - Posted: 2 Jan 2021, 12:34:25 UTC

Excellent news, Puerto Rico government has allocated $8 million to rebuild Arecibo radio telescope!!
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Message 2064845 - Posted: 3 Jan 2021, 18:25:58 UTC - in response to Message 2064818.  

It's likely this site will become unavailable later today and for much of tomorrow (Sat 2 January 2021 - Sun 3 January 2021)...

And we're back online!


Keep discussing The Search!

Here's hoping for good new discoveries for this New Year!!


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Message 2064846 - Posted: 3 Jan 2021, 18:27:46 UTC - in response to Message 2064825.  

Excellent news, Puerto Rico government has allocated $8 million to rebuild Arecibo radio telescope!!

Here's hoping they gain further worldwide interest and the budget to rebuild soon and new tech better!


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Message 2066455 - Posted: 23 Jan 2021, 6:08:08 UTC

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Message 2067488 - Posted: 3 Feb 2021, 7:19:18 UTC

Hi. Please help world community grid, its very important. All together we are going to speed up doctors' research.
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Message 2067509 - Posted: 3 Feb 2021, 14:30:06 UTC

I am running their tasks and getting badges from Bronze to Ruby. The next ones should be Sapphire and Emerald, I believe. Why not Diamonds, which are a girl's best friends?
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