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Nuadormrac ![]() Send message Joined: 7 Apr 00 Posts: 136 Credit: 1,703,351 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Realistically, I could see this coming because without advances in communication; well radio has it's limits wrt prospects for ET engaging in interplanetary communication. Communication with the moon (Apollo mission) had time delay people would rather not have. That said with quantum enmeshed particles being used for some secure communications now; until there is other technology to be on the search for as a possible work around to the time/distance problem... Big question, probably many are thinking is updates to the BOINC software given many projects are now using it? We have a working platform now, but if hibernation continues long term, some projects might find need for updates in the years ahead. Especially if computer advances require software updates to continue to function well. Processor updates from Intel/AMD or Windows updates from Microsoft could necessitate software updates to avoid potential issues. New version of Windows and one's utilities stop functioning without software company provided support/newer versions is a prime example.... ![]() |
Richard Haselgrove ![]() Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14571 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 ![]() ![]() |
Development of the BOINC platform should continue as normal, despite the suspension of SETI as a project. The processes are separate, although there is some overlap of personnel between the two. BOINC announced a new recommended version (7.16.11) earlier this month: this is available for Apple, Linux, and Windows. Many of the changes were required to cope with major changes in the Apple platform, confirming the points you make about the necessity of responding to external pressures. |
![]() Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 8725 Credit: 2,930,782 RAC: 1 ![]() |
SETI has paved the way to the BOINC platform, with 50 odd projects using it. I am now running projects dealing with Covid-19 instead of SETI@home. Tullio |
juliangall Send message Joined: 17 May 99 Posts: 6 Credit: 525,757 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Since I joined Seti@home in 1999, I have apparently provided 454 quadrillion floating point operations. By my calculations, the same could be achieved in under 5 hours on an Nvidia GeForce RTX 3080, recently announced. Makes you think. Julian |
![]() Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 8725 Credit: 2,930,782 RAC: 1 ![]() |
Nvidia has bought ARM, the holder of the Risc CPU patent rights. AMD has bought Xilinx, maker of FPGA chips. I have used a Risc minicomputer running Berkeley UNIX. Tullio |
![]() Send message Joined: 14 Dec 14 Posts: 1 Credit: 2,271,334 RAC: 11 ![]() |
T_T I was joined SETI at 2000 or 2001. and lost my account 2times. at last seti project stopped...sad. is this fail to find? I hope we could find ET somedays. or..if someone already found ET!? so no need to try find!? |
rob smith ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 21559 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 ![]() ![]() |
Read the very first post in this thread https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=85267&sort_style=6&start=0, then read the whole of the Nebula thread https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_forum.php?id=1511 and you will see what is happening. Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
tek Send message Joined: 7 Oct 10 Posts: 1 Credit: 530,457 RAC: 0 |
Seriously upsetting. |
mnswiftone Send message Joined: 18 Jul 00 Posts: 1 Credit: 11,302,550 RAC: 2 ![]() |
Just curious - read through the Nebula, most well over my head, but got me to wondering... Though considering how long SETI ran, someone must have thought this (or it is totally wrong and irrelevant?): Has anyone talked the radio telescope people into pointing their dish(s) at the furthest solid planet in our solar system that should reflect Earth's signals, and see what kind of data is returned by reflection off of it? This would provide a sample of very strong signals to analyze and write algorithms to properly find real signals in. This stuff is so far over my head - so if my question is meaningless - don't bother replying... but if it might have helped, something to think about. Someone probably thought of this on the first day... LOL Been with SETI since July 2000 - it has been fun, optimistic, and interesting... Thanks and I will be ready if something comes up - like a Nebula analyzing BOINC app... ? Todd ![]() |
![]() Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 18293 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 ![]() ![]() |
Just curious - read through the Nebula, most well over my head, but got me to wondering... That's a very good thought and a good question... As it happens, I believe that s@h has indeed detected signals from our various space probes that are drifting across our solar system. We also have a multitude of signals detected that are inadvertent radar/radio reflections off aircraft flying around various parts of the world! A large part of the Nebula work is to develop new algorithms that can reliably distinguish between the many signals that have been found that originate from Earth, vs another multitude of signals that are random noise, vs anything else found that is not Earthly and not noise. The filtering out of all the known stuff to then leave only what is truly unknown is the really hard bit! Hence the very real research work developing Nebula... Been with SETI since July 2000 - it has been fun, optimistic, and interesting... Hey! Good going. Yes, this is still a world leading interesting project. One that has evolved from the early days of whether something such as Boinc was even possible, to now deeply investigating the signal riches that we have found. There is a lot more to come yet. There are just the minor details of researcher time, research grants/funding, and developing Nebula or a parallel successor to guide how we search further and farther!! Keep an eye on the forums for "what next"! Keep searchin', Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Juan Jose de Onate, M0WWA Send message Joined: 14 Feb 00 Posts: 17 Credit: 3,625,997 RAC: 6 ![]() |
Hi Todd, With limited resources Radio Amateurs are doing something in that way since the Seventies. They are using the moon as a reflector to bounce fast telegraphic signals back to earth, the so called Moon Bounce. Also ionised atmosphere by meteor showers are successfully used, Meteor Scatter. Mars and Venus have been used to reflect signals back to earth in order to test communication equipment for amateur radio satellites. As an initiation test, using simple reception equipment, you can hear signature signals of objects entering the atmosphere by tuning on 143.050MHz frequency of the Graves surveillance radar located in Dijon, France. http://www.itr-datanet.com/~pe1itr/pdf/The%20143.050MHz%20Graves%20Radar%20a%20VHF%20Beacon.pdf Juan, (amateur radio call sign M0WWA) |
janne kurikka Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 2 Credit: 5,471,931 RAC: 6 ![]() |
Joined with Pentium II back in 3rd of Apr 1999. Thank you for good times everyone! :) |
![]() Send message Joined: 25 May 99 Posts: 1 Credit: 2,675,246 RAC: 10 ![]() |
One more old timer just stopping by to look. |
Richard Haselgrove ![]() Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14571 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 ![]() ![]() |
It's likely this site will become unavailable later today and for much of tomorrow (Sat 2 January 2021 - Sun 3 January 2021). https://technology.berkeley.edu/dc-shutdown Data Center Power Shutdown Systems will likely be down from 8 a.m. on Saturday, Jan. 2 through 6 p.m. on Sunday, Jan. 3 (times are estimated).That's 16:00 UTC Saturday until 02:00 UTC Monday. |
Juan Jose de Onate, M0WWA Send message Joined: 14 Feb 00 Posts: 17 Credit: 3,625,997 RAC: 6 ![]() |
Excellent news, Puerto Rico government has allocated $8 million to rebuild Arecibo radio telescope!! |
![]() Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 18293 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 ![]() ![]() |
It's likely this site will become unavailable later today and for much of tomorrow (Sat 2 January 2021 - Sun 3 January 2021)... And we're back online! Keep discussing The Search! Here's hoping for good new discoveries for this New Year!! Keep searchin', Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
![]() Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 18293 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 ![]() ![]() |
Excellent news, Puerto Rico government has allocated $8 million to rebuild Arecibo radio telescope!! Here's hoping they gain further worldwide interest and the budget to rebuild soon and new tech better! Keep searchin', Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 26 Jan 04 Posts: 1 Credit: 4,041,896 RAC: 0 ![]() |
O NO my first project is gone :( ![]() |
Tiago Send message Joined: 14 Oct 18 Posts: 6 Credit: 3,720 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Hi. Please help world community grid, its very important. All together we are going to speed up doctors' research. |
![]() Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 8725 Credit: 2,930,782 RAC: 1 ![]() |
I am running their tasks and getting badges from Bronze to Ruby. The next ones should be Sapphire and Emerald, I believe. Why not Diamonds, which are a girl's best friends? Tullio |
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