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![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 4 Sep 99 Posts: 18 Credit: 10,381,162 RAC: 53 ![]() ![]() |
Peter, This is a blip in the effort. The search goes on by every available means. Keep the faith! Best Regards, Rich |
The Phoenix Send message Joined: 10 Jul 19 Posts: 60 Credit: 21,835 RAC: 0 |
This not a con, read the history. in the 1990's the Space Sciences Laboratory at UCB were engaged in a numer of scientific projects, but hiring super-computer time by the hour was increasingly expensive, so a group at the SSL tried to find a way round it. They came up with a scheme to utilise the computers of public volunteers. Essentially it involved sending out blocks of data to be crunched and the results sent back for further processing. Many said that it wouldn't work, so they decided to carry out an experiment to try it. They chose an existing SSL project SETI, the Search for ExtraterrestrialI Intelligence as being suitable, and launched Seti@home in 1999. It was initially envisaged just to utilise unused CPU cycles so people could continue working as normal. Against all expectations S@H fired the imagination of the public and took off like a rocket. So much so that people were soon constructing purpose built bare bones rigs, and later GPU cards were being used. Many other scientific projects clamoured to also use the system, so in2002-2004 BOINC was introduced and S@H bcame one of the many Boinc projects. The whole point is that S@H was never intended to be a way of life, it was and remains a scientific experiment. David Anderson wrote a report a couple of years ago explaining this and said that any experiment had to have a beginning, an ending, and a conclusion. S@H proved that distributed computing was viable using the home computers of public volunteers, so that part of the experiment was a success. But sadly, no evidence of ET had been found. He also concluded that S@H wold continue on in some form or other. However in 2020 the project ceased to send out any more work, and attention turned to its successor Nebula as the new back end, which intends to look at the 20 years worth of data collected using the computer cluster of Einstein at Hanover. S@H was and remains entirely voluntary, it was an experiment to test distributed computing, SETI itself was always esoteric in nature and always will be. Financial donations were also entirely voluntary. It is simply untue and unfair to call it a con. Looking back on it all the only exploitation was certain people running Go Fund Me's for personal financial gain which shouln't have been allowed. |
David Lynch Send message Joined: 7 Oct 99 Posts: 1 Credit: 3,103,575 RAC: 3 ![]() |
This is so sad - I was trying to figure out why after fixing my computer I was getting "Scheduler request failed: HTTP file not found," in BOINC and now I know... I've been at SETI@home member since 1999. What a great trip it's been for cosmology. Something Carl Sagan probably dreamt of. C'set la vie. |
![]() Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 1 Credit: 6,533,741 RAC: 2 ![]() |
It's a pity that nothing has been found so far. I have supported SETI since the beginning - 6,532,146 packages. But we will surely still find evidence, keep looking! www.tvgenial.com |
Kianaf808 ![]() Send message Joined: 3 Apr 19 Posts: 1 Credit: 16,085 RAC: 0 ![]() |
It was fun! Thank you so much for the opportunity! |
![]() Send message Joined: 28 Nov 02 Posts: 5126 Credit: 276,046,078 RAC: 462 ![]() |
I miss Seti. I wish there were other ways that I could continue to help the SETI process via computation. Failing that I have resorted to Physics/Astronomy-based projects as well as "Socially Conscious Projects" (aka: World Community Grid). Tom M A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association). |
Stephen "Heretic" ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 20 Sep 12 Posts: 5557 Credit: 192,787,363 RAC: 628 ![]() ![]() |
. . Yep, I miss it too. Just yesterday friends were commenting on how my life is different now (not in a good way) since the end of S@H. But as commented ... life goes on ... . . Part of what I miss are the chats with many other keen volunteers. I hope that Nebula will eventually provide some interesting results that set the scientific community on fire :) Stephen <shrug> |
LP&E Send message Joined: 5 Aug 99 Posts: 4 Credit: 2,816,745 RAC: 594 ![]() ![]() |
Yes, now I have a bunch of completed SETI tasks from March 6, 2020 to July 21, 2020. These are at the top of my BOINC manager and I can't get rid of them. Can you turn on the appropriate servers for a few days to clear these from my manager. I am not concerned about the missed credit. Thanks Lorenz Menke |
![]() Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21578 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 ![]() ![]() |
Yes, now I have a bunch of completed SETI tasks from March 6, 2020 to July 21, 2020. These are at the top of my BOINC manager and I can't get rid of them. Can you turn on the appropriate servers for a few days to clear these from my manager. I am not concerned about the missed credit. Sorry, but the servers needed for picking up new results are very likely never to be turned on again in their present form: I very much suspect that the present results database is not going to be updated with any further new results... For your pending results: Best is to have your boinc manager discard them. Meanwhile, the 'offline' database is being analyzed with the steadily developing Nebula system. (Note that is very much a work in progress and a development of the analysis itself!) Next will come something new from what has been learnt from the 20+ years of this experiment and our grand search! Watch for news... Keep searchin', Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 15 May 99 Posts: 3828 Credit: 1,114,826,392 RAC: 3,319 ![]() ![]() |
Yes, now I have a bunch of completed SETI tasks from March 6, 2020 to July 21, 2020. These are at the top of my BOINC manager and I can't get rid of them. Can you turn on the appropriate servers for a few days to clear these from my manager. I am not concerned about the missed credit. We don't have to even speculate about this: your work units can be seen in your hosts. Every one of them already timed out due to non-completion and the ones I checked were reassigned to others, completed and closed off. So even if you could submit them, they would not do anything now. May as well save some disk space in the BOINC client: click the Projects tab, then click SETI@Home and then Remove and confirm. This will remove all the now-useless work units and SETI@Home project data. You can always re-add it if it comes back. I'd bet my last dollar it ain't coming back, at least not in this form. ![]() |
LP&E Send message Joined: 5 Aug 99 Posts: 4 Credit: 2,816,745 RAC: 594 ![]() ![]() |
Thanks, I removed SETI from the BOINC Manager which cleared up all the hanging results. Now SETI is no longer available for reloading to the manager. However, what is important is that the SETI results are still present in all the statistics reports. Which I want to keep for historical reasons. Lorenz Menke |
![]() Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21578 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 ![]() ![]() |
... However, what is important is that the SETI results are still present in all the statistics reports. Which I want to keep for historical reasons. Download your certificates and for good measure, take a screenshot of your results page? I'm sure s@h will be kept online for some time yet but eventually the project must move on if only for the sake of the constraints of funding. And no doubt further new searches will be done with renewed knowledge! Keep searchin'! Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
marc Send message Joined: 16 Nov 16 Posts: 1 Credit: 363,749 RAC: 0 ![]() |
i can say im deeply upset that u aren't giving out more you shouldn't give up well that all im going to say i no its a lot off work but we all want to to help |
![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 29 Apr 01 Posts: 13164 Credit: 1,160,866,277 RAC: 1,873 ![]() ![]() |
... However, what is important is that the SETI results are still present in all the statistics reports. Which I want to keep for historical reasons. Everything but the Diploma certificate is broken now. Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours ![]() ![]() A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association) |
Darkryder Send message Joined: 9 Aug 99 Posts: 3 Credit: 901,198 RAC: 0 ![]() |
We apparently received a signal from Alpha Centauri. Is anyone analyzing that and if so, what have they found out about the signal? |
Michael Watson Send message Joined: 7 Feb 08 Posts: 1388 Credit: 2,098,506 RAC: 5 |
Could you please explain where you learned about this reported signal from Alpha Centauri ? I'm sure everyone here would be interested, if such a signal has been received. Thank you. added- Could you be referring to the candidate signal received from the Parkes Observatory in Australia, in December, 2020? If so, please see the linked article from the SETI Institute. They reported, quite some time ago, that this signal was ascribed to Earthly interference. Many similar signals were discovered, when the telescope wasn't aimed at Alpha Centauri. A convincing case was made for this conclusion. https://www.seti.org/what-was-signal-proxima-centauri |
magic_sam Send message Joined: 16 May 06 Posts: 4 Credit: 13,129 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Dear all, It's been more than three years since the first post in this thread. Is SETI@Home still considered "in hibernation" ? When a bear hibernates, it is expected that it will eventually wake up and spring back to life. Should we expect the same from SETI@Home ? Any positive news on that front ? Best regards, Samuel |
![]() Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21578 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 ![]() ![]() |
Thanks for a good question. s@h has a large fantastic userbase of enthusiasm... There are some reobservations planned on the Chinese FAST... After that?... Who knows if a new researcher jumps onboard with a new grant?... Next week? Or next decade?? (Or next never?) Meanwhile, we have life on the forums still. Keep searchin', Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 26 May 99 Posts: 9958 Credit: 103,452,613 RAC: 328 ![]() ![]() |
If you read this line from the original post: We hope that other UC Berkeley astronomers will find uses for the huge computing capabilities of SETI@home for SETI or related areas like cosmology and pulsar research. If this happens, SETI@home will start distributing work again. We'll keep you posted about this. I take that to mean it would require a new team to ressurect the project. It seems highly unlikely it would return in the same format. Personally as it was never really a "green" project, in that it kept thousands of computers running when they shoould have been idle, I for one would not rejoin if it did start up again. |
patrice Send message Joined: 2 Oct 10 Posts: 1 Credit: 19,559 RAC: 0 ![]() |
i wanna help scientific project, like SETI. i work on it since the begining. Does someone can help me to find a project about astronomy? |
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