Hi, after participating in SETI for twenty plus years and now in hibernation. I finally have a question I can't find the answer for. I can find the date I joined the original SETI classic project.
But is there some place that would tell me what position in joining. ie. How many joined before and how many after?

Hello,
very easy : look your user ID (2052093) : so there are 2052092 before you.
After you, search a recent user. I found one in my team who joined 19feb2020 , user ID : 10900511
At least there are 8848418 after you (on feb 19th 2020)
Have a nice day

I found a user ID 10926831 !

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... is there some place that would tell me what position in joining. ie. How many joined before and how many after?

Yes.

Just consider your user id number on here:

For example for yourself, that is "124281".

Sorry, no idea for the "Classic" user count.


Very good you've been along to see the entire search we've worked through thus far. Nicely done!

Who knows what next!


Keep searchin',
Martin

As far as I'm aware the user number is sequential, starting from 1 and continuing unbroken to the very final day of being able to create accounts.
Thus there are 124280 users "older" than the questioner.
As to the "newest" user - the number is going to be slightly greater than 10932385, so thee are at least 10808104 users "younger" than yourself.
One thing to remember is that some people have more than one account for various reasons, for example I've had two accounts, this one and an older one, which I "lost" because I couldn't remember my ancient email address when I started using BOINC so I moved my then current Classic account to be my BOINC-based one (shame I did that because I first started on S@H back in September 1999).

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Bob Smith
Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society)
Somewhere in the (un)known Universe?

To add slightly more detail to Rob's answer: there were two numeric sequences. The first, for what we now know as 'SETI Classic', ran from 1999 to 2005. When BOINC first started in test mode, the sequence was started again from 1.

But the BOINC sequence was automatically seeded by a bulk transfer of the most active accounts. I retain BOINC ID number 5509 to this day, even though I didn't join SETI that early - that was the position I had reached in the classic statistics when the bulk transfer was initiated in, I think, 2004. I'm not sure exactly how many of the early numbers were created that way - possibly the first ten thousand, or something like that.

Regarding "seti classic" early registration... scroll back to message 2052122 in this thread for an earlier reply to the OP question. That reply includes a link to an on-line database of seti classic registrations.

Second item
https://www.planetary.org/blogs/your-impact-june-solstice-2020.html
The University of California at Berkeley has announced the end of SETI@home, one of the largest citizen science projects ever undertaken.

Hm.... end of project and raw data distribution hibernation are quite a different things IMO...

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SETI apps news
We're not gonna fight them. We're gonna transcend them.

This from the original post in this thread suggested to me that "SETI@Home" as we know it will not return.

However, SETI@home is not disappearing. The web site and the message boards will continue to operate. We hope that other UC Berkeley astronomers will find uses for the huge computing capabilities of SETI@home for SETI or related areas like cosmology and pulsar research. If this happens, SETI@home will start distributing work again. We'll keep you posted about this.

It will be up to others to use the existing resources.

This from the original post in this thread suggested to me that "SETI@Home" as we know it will not return.

However, SETI@home is not disappearing. The web site and the message boards will continue to operate. We hope that other UC Berkeley astronomers will find uses for the huge computing capabilities of SETI@home for SETI or related areas like cosmology and pulsar research. If this happens, SETI@home will start distributing work again. We'll keep you posted about this.

I think there was always a chance of Seti returning if the funding to support it became available. But given the present Pandemic & the economic impacts (along with the the political and international power play going on at present), i think lot of science projects will end up closing down over the next 12-24 months due to funding drying up. The short term future for the arts & science for knowledge (not just applied science) is looking extremely bleak.


It's a real shame.
I'm hoping that we're just in for a few extremely turbulent years and then things will pick up again, but it's looking increasingly more likely we're heading for a dark period, if not an actual Dark Age.
:-/

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Grant
Darwin NT

Greetings from the UK.

It has been a true pleasure to be part of this project and the community since 18th May 1999. I look forward to the next great adventure!

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I'm sad to see it go I was one of the people that heard the call thanks to the late Art Bell and Seth Shostak's interview in the late 90's long b4 BOINC. I've been crunching ever since. Wish it would continue, but if your having data storage issues which I suspect is the bottom line (call it a hunch) I certainly understand. Please let me know if, you decide to crunching numbers again , I'll gladly come back

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Hibernation or HIBERATION ?

I think the notice at the top of the Home Page may have been typo'd...

We're now hibernated ;-)


Thanks for noting that!

Keep searchin',
Martin

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Thanks :)

The surest sign that there is intelligent life out there is that they HAVEN'T contacted us...…..


LOL

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this project Seti At Home i have been number crunching for a long time and gutted there's no more data to search through and carnt Waite until this resumes

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Thanks for the ride, it was a good one!

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Hi, I've been with the program since the civil insertion to it. i started in 1999 under the classic SETI. I programmed all my computers here in USA and abroad to help with the search. I was a supported from the beginning but I was dropped while I recovered from a paralyzing accident. When I came back noticed ALL my data had disappeared and I had to start ALL OVER AGAIN. Ever since I continue with my support and searching. Not to long ago, since June 2020 I got disconnected by you and I didn't finished reporting the tasks i was assigned to. Its been more than 20 years of faithful dedication to SETI Program and The Planetary Society and I feel dishearten by the news im receiving. All this time you were aware of false information and you didn't communicated to us. There are being visits by Its to this planet and you didn't notice them? Please I need a clarification of ALL THESE... as a Teacher and Astronomer I would like to continue helping but please honor my request.

Sincerely yours,

Gloria T. Berg (nee. Bayona)

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Dear Tori, very sorry to read about your accident and the problems with the loss of your computer SETI records. There were various problems over the years that I noticed the SETI tech people dealing with: for example, disk drives going bad on servers. It may be that they were unable to recover all data from a bad disk. Or, maybe someone made a mistake. As I'm sure you realize, students were coming onto the project and leaving from time to time. My guess is that the SETI batches that your computers processed were not lost. Your login name and related info may just have been lost. My understanding is that all of the SETI data that was processed by people like you and me over the years is now being subjected to various statistical and other mathematical analyses to validate the processing and possibly find signals that were missed. E.T. may have been talking to us and we didn't realize it. The SETI software changed and improved over the years, which must be complicating their current analyses. I'm just a humble worker bee, like you, but I also am sad over the suspension of the SETI Project. I will be very interested in the results of the "post process analysis" that they are doing. A report is supposed to be published. (I don't know when.) Part of the problem may be financial.
I hope you are recovering from your accident, and that you have time to look at other BOINC projects. Keep the faith! SETI may start up again!
Be well and be happy! Best Regards, Rich

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Thanks for a good answer for Tori.

... In 20 years the project found nothing, using data from Arecibo and Green Bank telescopes...

Hey! Not so fast there!


s@h has certainly found lots of received signals.

So far what hasn't been found are any easily recognized unambiguous signals of an ET.

The present analysis that is being worked on is taking the 20+ years of accumulated data to work through searching for anything that is seen to be 'non-natural' and so find candidates for further investigation. We don't know what an ET signal is, or what an ET signature might look like, so one search strategy is to eliminate everything we do know about to then list the remaining signals that are 'unexpected' and 'interesting'...

Meanwhile, along the way over the years, the s@h data has already been used to map the hydrogen distribution structure of our Milky Way galaxy in 3d, and to power multiple various other astronomy observations.

And we spawned Boinc upon the cybersphere!


Fantastic achievements already!

And all on frugal funding and fantastic personal dedication.


Keep searchin',
Martin

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After 20+ years of providing my computer CPU time, you just go dark. No believable explanation as to why, Just “thanks we are going dark, have a good day”. I have removed the Bonic app from my computers. Never to rejoin anything come out of Berkeley.


Thanks and good-bye

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After 20+ years of providing my computer CPU time, you just go dark. No believable explanation as to why, Just “thanks we are going dark, have a good day”.

If you chose not to read the very first post in this thread where they did explain why, that is hardly the fault of the project.

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Grant
Darwin NT

There is an article by Adam Mann in Scientific American, of which I could read only a few lines in the Italian edition of Scientific American, Le Scienze, which says that we should not limit ourselves to radio waves in the search for ET but explore also gravitational waves, neutrinos and what else,
Tullio

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