SETI@home hibernation

Message boards : News : SETI@home hibernation
Message board moderation

To post messages, you must log in.

Previous · 1 . . . 32 · 33 · 34 · 35 · 36 · 37 · 38 . . . 46 · Next

AuthorMessage
Grant (SSSF)
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 19 Aug 99
Posts: 13885
Credit: 208,696,464
RAC: 304
Australia
Message 2043096 - Posted: 5 Apr 2020, 2:13:41 UTC - in response to Message 2043091.  

Yes gravity wave. I had 8 of them running at once. took forever to complete.
40min for 2,000 Credits is forever?
Grant
Darwin NT
ID: 2043096 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
Profile William Vaughan

Send message
Joined: 3 Jan 19
Posts: 13
Credit: 8,981,493
RAC: 128
United States
Message 2043097 - Posted: 5 Apr 2020, 2:23:04 UTC - in response to Message 2043096.  

Yes gravity wave. I had 8 of them running at once. took forever to complete.
40min for 2,000 Credits is forever? Yes especially when actually I think it was 10 and 2 running on the gpu's watching them and trying to see any progress. the gpu tasks went measurably well. The credits are not given until validated so I showed 0 credits for 24 hrs
ID: 2043097 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
nairb

Send message
Joined: 18 Mar 03
Posts: 201
Credit: 5,447,501
RAC: 5
United Kingdom
Message 2043100 - Posted: 5 Apr 2020, 2:38:50 UTC - in response to Message 2035393.  

Been a long run. In the early days, it would take almost a week to crunch 1 task with a single core CPU. The last (used) computer I bought has 2 CPUs for 16 cores / 32 threads and can get thru 150 tasks in about a day.


I did use a pentium 75 with 128meg edo ram many years ago. It took about 32 days to do a w/u. Just managing the deadlines in those days. I even tried an pentium 60. Only once tho.

How much does a 16 core machine cost to run. Nice tho.
ID: 2043100 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
Grant (SSSF)
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 19 Aug 99
Posts: 13885
Credit: 208,696,464
RAC: 304
Australia
Message 2043105 - Posted: 5 Apr 2020, 2:53:54 UTC - in response to Message 2043100.  

How much does a 16 core machine cost to run. Nice tho.
Hmm.
P75 8W, plus system requirements, say 50W (old HHDs and RAM really sucked up the power).
Ryzen9 3950X (16c/32t) 105W, say 150W for the entire system (more likely a fair bit less).

3 times the power, however the processing output would be hard to determine- If your P75 took 32days to do a WU on the old applications, it would probably take a couple of months to do just one now (if not longer)
The output from just a single thread of the 3950X would finish most Tasks in 45min or so, and it's got 32 threads available.
The Ryzen 9 might have higher power costs, but the amount of power used per Task processed would be minuscule compared to an old P75.
Grant
Darwin NT
ID: 2043105 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
nairb

Send message
Joined: 18 Mar 03
Posts: 201
Credit: 5,447,501
RAC: 5
United Kingdom
Message 2043115 - Posted: 5 Apr 2020, 4:06:48 UTC - in response to Message 2043105.  

but the amount of power used per Task processed would be minuscule compared to an old P75.


Yup I agree. Nobody would want to try a P75 now. I did try a dual socket 370 a while ago with a pair of tualatin's 1400. Still painfully slow. Most of the old machines are now useless for most things.

Its a shame seti is going. It was always a good project for low resource machines. But there are other projects also less needy on ram etc.
A 32 thread machine...... it is tempting - one day.
ID: 2043115 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
Profile tullio
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 9 Apr 04
Posts: 8797
Credit: 2,930,782
RAC: 1
Italy
Message 2043125 - Posted: 5 Apr 2020, 6:32:38 UTC

I am running an Einstein GW task on a Linux Virtual machine hosted on my Windows 10 PC. It uses 25% of the 8 GB RAM on a Ryzen 5 1400 CPU. OS is OpenSuSE Tumbleweed updated today to kernel 5.6.0-1.
Tullio
ID: 2043125 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
VelocityRC
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 27 Sep 19
Posts: 23
Credit: 1,421,582
RAC: 86
United States
Message 2043192 - Posted: 5 Apr 2020, 18:40:38 UTC
Last modified: 5 Apr 2020, 18:47:03 UTC

Hi all. I want to ask a question here about BOINC. I still have Seti@Home running and as of this writing I'm still getting WU's done. My question is I added Rosetta@Home through the tools tab in BIONC. When I re-boot only Seti@Home is in the list of projects, this happens on both PC's. I did use a different password from Seti. Ideas since I can't ask on the Rosetta fourm due to no WU's processed. Thanks and I'm glad to see that Seti is getting on with the next phase of the project.

Respectfully,

Bill S.

EDIT: I don't have Virtualbox installed. Seti didn't need it. Rosetta ??
ID: 2043192 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
Grant (SSSF)
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 19 Aug 99
Posts: 13885
Credit: 208,696,464
RAC: 304
Australia
Message 2043201 - Posted: 5 Apr 2020, 20:36:09 UTC - in response to Message 2043192.  

EDIT: I don't have Virtualbox installed. Seti didn't need it. Rosetta ??
Virtual box isn't needed there either.
I used a different password when attaching to Rosetta. No problems.
Go to their web site & see if you now have an account there. From memory Rosetta didn't show up on my computer till i got some work, and they are mostly out of work at present, although i did manage to pick some up an hour or so ago.
Grant
Darwin NT
ID: 2043201 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
Jon Catt

Send message
Joined: 11 Apr 18
Posts: 7
Credit: 86,777
RAC: 6
United Kingdom
Message 2043212 - Posted: 5 Apr 2020, 21:11:39 UTC

I just uploaded my final work unit
Thanks to the staff and all you great people for making SETI@home what it was
I really hope they fill the void that will be left

Keep safe people and see you again I hope

J C.
ID: 2043212 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
VelocityRC
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 27 Sep 19
Posts: 23
Credit: 1,421,582
RAC: 86
United States
Message 2043223 - Posted: 5 Apr 2020, 22:14:50 UTC - in response to Message 2043201.  

Thanks Grant. I just picked up 3 WU's from Rosetta so I'll keep an eye on what happens. Much appreciated.

Bill S.
ID: 2043223 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
Grant (SSSF)
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 19 Aug 99
Posts: 13885
Credit: 208,696,464
RAC: 304
Australia
Message 2043224 - Posted: 5 Apr 2020, 22:21:40 UTC - in response to Message 2043223.  
Last modified: 5 Apr 2020, 22:22:48 UTC

Thanks Grant. I just picked up 3 WU's from Rosetta so I'll keep an eye on what happens. Much appreciated.
Keep an eye on your BOINC Manager Event log. As well as roughly 1.3GB RAM per Task being run (although the present ones are only using between 300-750MB), it also needs plenty of HDD space, and if it doesn't have enough you'll have messages in the Event log telling you how much more is needed. I've got 12 Tasks running, with just over 11GB of HDD space in use.
Grant
Darwin NT
ID: 2043224 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
Profile Tom M
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 28 Nov 02
Posts: 5126
Credit: 276,046,078
RAC: 462
Message 2043237 - Posted: 6 Apr 2020, 0:15:48 UTC - in response to Message 2043224.  

Thanks Grant. I just picked up 3 WU's from Rosetta so I'll keep an eye on what happens. Much appreciated.
Keep an eye on your BOINC Manager Event log. As well as roughly 1.3GB RAM per Task being run (although the present ones are only using between 300-750MB), it also needs plenty of HDD space, and if it doesn't have enough you'll have messages in the Event log telling you how much more is needed. I've got 12 Tasks running, with just over 11GB of HDD space in use.


I am beginning to suspect that the giant ram per task has been changed. Just after I got my Ram update installed darn it. :)

Tom
A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association).
ID: 2043237 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
Grant (SSSF)
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 19 Aug 99
Posts: 13885
Credit: 208,696,464
RAC: 304
Australia
Message 2043240 - Posted: 6 Apr 2020, 0:36:17 UTC - in response to Message 2043237.  

I am beginning to suspect that the giant ram per task has been changed.
It depends on the Task. Some need it, some don't. The current batch don't, the next ones may or may not.
Grant
Darwin NT
ID: 2043240 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
Profile Keith Myers Special Project $250 donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 29 Apr 01
Posts: 13164
Credit: 1,160,866,277
RAC: 1,873
United States
Message 2043244 - Posted: 6 Apr 2020, 1:14:40 UTC - in response to Message 2043237.  

Thanks Grant. I just picked up 3 WU's from Rosetta so I'll keep an eye on what happens. Much appreciated.
Keep an eye on your BOINC Manager Event log. As well as roughly 1.3GB RAM per Task being run (although the present ones are only using between 300-750MB), it also needs plenty of HDD space, and if it doesn't have enough you'll have messages in the Event log telling you how much more is needed. I've got 12 Tasks running, with just over 11GB of HDD space in use.


I am beginning to suspect that the giant ram per task has been changed. Just after I got my Ram update installed darn it. :)

Tom

I agree, seems that happened to me also. Added 16GB and was using over 29GB of RAM on cpu tasks and then the tasks changed and now I am only using 50% of my 32GB of RAM.
Oh well, should be covered whenever the mix of work changes again.
Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours

A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association)
ID: 2043244 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
Profile tullio
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 9 Apr 04
Posts: 8797
Credit: 2,930,782
RAC: 1
Italy
Message 2043291 - Posted: 6 Apr 2020, 9:07:45 UTC

My son has sent me a photo of a page of "Le Scienze", the Italian version of Scientific American, which speaks of SETI@home in correct terms. I imagine there is such a page in "Scientific American" but I don't have access to it.
Tullio
ID: 2043291 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
Profile Gary Charpentier Crowdfunding Project Donor*Special Project $75 donorSpecial Project $250 donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 25 Dec 00
Posts: 31126
Credit: 53,134,872
RAC: 32
United States
Message 2043335 - Posted: 6 Apr 2020, 16:14:04 UTC - in response to Message 2043271.  

All depends upon Nebula now to give us second sift work to do.
None for us from Nebula because of its nature. To do Nebula work you have to have a copy of the entire science database. What's that now, 24 multi TB drives? Don't think that is going through a consumer internet connection. Let it go and be happy you got to see the server closet.
ID: 2043335 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
William R. Clune
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 14 May 99
Posts: 48
Credit: 691,775,094
RAC: 943
United States
Message 2043341 - Posted: 6 Apr 2020, 16:23:13 UTC

All I can say is UGH...
ID: 2043341 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
Hugo A. Durantini Luca

Send message
Joined: 24 Sep 09
Posts: 14
Credit: 7,253,842
RAC: 10
Argentina
Message 2043343 - Posted: 6 Apr 2020, 16:41:41 UTC

Processing one my last pending WUs and maybe failling short for a bit of reaching 7,250,000 credits, but happy to see the project moving to a new phase and of course will be paying atention to any newa.

In the meanwhile Folding@home and Rosetta@home seems like a appropiated project given the current times, cheers people!
ID: 2043343 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
Profile Byron Leigh Hatch @ team Carl Sagan
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 5 Jul 99
Posts: 4548
Credit: 35,667,570
RAC: 4
Canada
Message 2043351 - Posted: 6 Apr 2020, 17:28:00 UTC

Thank you SETI@home,
for last 21 years I have been crunching.
futures generations of humans will continue the search :)

The probability of success is difficult to estimate,
but if we never search, the chance of success is zero.
- Cocconi-Morrison, Searching for Interstellar Communications, Nature, September 19, 1959
SETI@home is the scientific experiment that most excites the imagination of people worldwide.
Assignment of the Science is not to open a door to endless know, but to set a barrier to the endless ignorance.
- Galileo Galilei by Bertolt Brecht
I admire and greatly respect the Scientist at SETI@home - Berkeley University California USA.
I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one - John Lennon ...
Byron.
ID: 2043351 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
Al Crowdfunding Project Donor*Special Project $75 donorSpecial Project $250 donor
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 3 Apr 99
Posts: 1682
Credit: 477,343,364
RAC: 482
United States
Message 2043462 - Posted: 7 Apr 2020, 4:11:39 UTC - in response to Message 2043335.  

All depends upon Nebula now to give us second sift work to do.
None for us from Nebula because of its nature. To do Nebula work you have to have a copy of the entire science database. What's that now, 24 multi TB drives? Don't think that is going through a consumer internet connection. Let it go and be happy you got to see the server closet.
Dang, haven't been paying close attn over the last couple months, and just took a look at my machines that I had set up as set and forget, as it seemed a bit cooler than normal in there, and noticed no tasks on any of them. I knew that didn't portend good things, so came here and found this thread. As others have said, I have a number of emotions right now, but overall glad that I had the chance to be a part of this for 21 years, it has been a damn good run if I say so myself.

And yep, I am Very happy that I had the chance to see the server closet as well, it was a very memorable trip out there a couple years ago, thanks for having me. And thanks to the entire team for all the hard work and dedication over all these years, you have been amazing, and I am hoping to someday process more work here, once you've had a chance to analyze the huge pile that you currently have. Well, time to go back and shut down the systems for the last time. Sad stuff, but good memories...

ID: 2043462 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
Previous · 1 . . . 32 · 33 · 34 · 35 · 36 · 37 · 38 . . . 46 · Next

Message boards : News : SETI@home hibernation


 
©2025 University of California
 
SETI@home and Astropulse are funded by grants from the National Science Foundation, NASA, and donations from SETI@home volunteers. AstroPulse is funded in part by the NSF through grant AST-0307956.