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Message 2039214 - Posted: 20 Mar 2020, 18:13:08 UTC - in response to Message 2035163.  

This doesn't make logical sense.
1) Nothing is stopping you from analyzing collected results while new ones accumulate.
2) We always knew the search was incomprehensibly vast and that we could be at this for centuries or more before finding anything, but we're stopping after only 20 years or so?

You owe it to the volunteers to explain what's really going on.
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Message 2039219 - Posted: 20 Mar 2020, 18:33:39 UTC

You can't escape the conspiracy theorists no matter where you go.
Helping where I can. Hindering everywhere else.
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Message 2039221 - Posted: 20 Mar 2020, 18:42:24 UTC - in response to Message 2039214.  

You owe it to the volunteers to explain what's really going on.


That's an interesting statement and I believe that arguments could be made both for and against it. At its core, this endeavor was scientific research. There are typically no feelings, emotions, or apologies associated with scientific research decision making. We voluntarily chose to contribute our time and resources. The research was theirs, not ours, and they get to make the choices. So it's not surprising that scientists took the tone of scientists with these decisions.
However, one could also argue that this research created a community that became bigger and broader than the research itself. In a way, it transformed into something that was perhaps just a bit different than what the definition of scientific research typically allows. Considering this, perhaps it would have been appropriate to handle the hibernation in a somewhat different manner. To handle it in a way that a community leader would handle it, and not a scientist.
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Message 2039255 - Posted: 20 Mar 2020, 21:36:14 UTC - in response to Message 2039214.  

This doesn't make logical sense.
1) Nothing is stopping you from analyzing collected results while new ones accumulate.
2) We always knew the search was incomprehensibly vast and that we could be at this for centuries or more before finding anything, but we're stopping after only 20 years or so?

You owe it to the volunteers to explain what's really going on.
Did you even bother to read what has been posted???
Short version- not enough money to keep doing both.
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Message 2039263 - Posted: 20 Mar 2020, 22:06:03 UTC - in response to Message 2039255.  

Short version- not enough money to keep doing both.

IMHO it's rather manpower than money itself. Until we speak about money to hire few professionals in radiophysics/signal processing and DB administration not interesting in this research per se. Would be possible to find someone who will handle full pipeline as effective as Eric and others did all these years w/o bothering them with constant questions? I'm afraid not. Money can easely "find" few more HDDs if needed, but not so easy with right skilled professionals.
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Message 2039271 - Posted: 20 Mar 2020, 22:51:24 UTC - in response to Message 2039263.  
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Short version- not enough money to keep doing both.
IMHO it's rather manpower than money itself.
Yep. And you need the money, to get the manpower (and to keep them for any period of time).
People like a roof over their heads & to eat, money makes that easier to achieve.

It all comes down to funding.
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Message 2039312 - Posted: 21 Mar 2020, 1:25:13 UTC - in response to Message 2038198.  

Dang, after so many years, I really will miss the SETI project and all that great team of folks behind it, as well as the very many people who made this project great with their computers .

Now where can I get tee shirts, caps, coffee mugs, etc? I want to always remember my time with SETI.

Still have plenty of shirts from the official sponsors. SETI certified.
Send me a pm.
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Pluto will always be a planet to me.

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Message 2039373 - Posted: 21 Mar 2020, 11:53:44 UTC - in response to Message 2035163.  

Well, it's been a good run! Honestly, time to rest my poor CPU and hang it up I guess!

Shame I didn't find ET through this project but I wouldn't doubt that ET may know a lot more about me now.

Thanks to everyone who made this whole project possible through all the years and to my fellow cloud dwellers.

Glad to have been a part of something that to me was very special and rewarding!

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Message 2039383 - Posted: 21 Mar 2020, 12:34:56 UTC - in response to Message 2038590.  

For real. My first computer running SETI was a home built IBM compatible with with a 8088 processor.
Now running two machines with quad cores.

Have paused other projects to get my remaining SETI jobs done first.

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Message 2039443 - Posted: 21 Mar 2020, 15:37:19 UTC
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Sad to see the hibernation, but there is an urgent need now to "solve" the Chinese Disease COVID-19 problem.

I'm switching to Rosetta@Home to process protein folding/modeling.

SETI lost my previous data and accounts; I had joined early 1999 and ran the SETI project on all available workstation hardware and the servers at a 5000+ employee organization. Wish I had those numbers!

Best to all!

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Message 2039565 - Posted: 21 Mar 2020, 23:44:57 UTC

I will miss you SETI
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Message 2039586 - Posted: 22 Mar 2020, 2:17:37 UTC - in response to Message 2039205.  

I have seen it written in several places that new work units will no longer be available after 31 March 2020, but what about the unfinished work units that are still on our computers after that date? Will they still be collected?

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My impression is they will stop giving out tasks no later than 31 March. But will continue to receive results for weeks/months.

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Message 2039613 - Posted: 22 Mar 2020, 4:05:42 UTC - in response to Message 2039443.  

Sad to see the hibernation, but there is an urgent need now to "solve" the Chinese Disease COVID-19 problem.

I'm switching to Rosetta@Home to process protein folding/modeling.

SETI lost my previous data and accounts; I had joined early 1999 and ran the SETI project on all available workstation hardware and the servers at a 5000+ employee organization. Wish I had those numbers!

Best to all!

Craig


I am going to mostly do Rosetta as well near term.... I am not sure why it is so unpopular....

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Message 2039628 - Posted: 22 Mar 2020, 7:32:56 UTC

On Science United Dave Anderson says that he will give more priority to Rosetta@home tasks. But I am getting mostly Milkyway@home tasks.
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Message 2039705 - Posted: 22 Mar 2020, 16:27:31 UTC - in response to Message 2035163.  

I am sorry so much.
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Message 2039708 - Posted: 22 Mar 2020, 16:35:42 UTC - in response to Message 2039628.  
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On Science United Dave Anderson says that he will give more priority to Rosetta@home tasks. But I am getting mostly Milkyway@home tasks.
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That is one of the problems with SU, you can't effectively control what your host will do.
Yes you can select projects, but you not control the mix you are going to receive.
If you wish to run Rosetta do by the old way, better attach your host directly to there.
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Message 2039746 - Posted: 22 Mar 2020, 19:46:32 UTC

I suspect that most of us realize that the careful analysis of results to date and SENSITIVITY should be done, definitively if possible. As a next step, a review of BOINC and SETI processing structure (system analysis), laying out improvements with costs, etc, also makes sense. After making needed system improvements, SETI should start up again, if this whole approach to finding a technological civilization stands scrutiny. Our little (big?) brothers are out there. Let's find them. I will be making contributions to SETI to help pay for it.
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Message 2039766 - Posted: 22 Mar 2020, 22:22:02 UTC

Just seen the news. Been busy with the end of the World as we know it, etc.
Very sad, but we have to move on. Been a member since Aug 99.
Had SETI on so many PC's I've lost count.
I'll sign up for another project in April.
Keep up the good work guys.
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Message 2039782 - Posted: 23 Mar 2020, 1:41:45 UTC

Thanks for all you have done across the generations.
A member for over 20 years using every computer I've had access to in that time.
A little disappointed we have not yet made contact but, hopeful that we will, in time, get there.
Live long and prosper!
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Message 2039784 - Posted: 23 Mar 2020, 1:59:48 UTC - in response to Message 2038634.  

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