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Message 2038509 - Posted: 17 Mar 2020, 16:08:30 UTC - in response to Message 2038477.  

So your just stopping cold Turkey? No plans to collect additional data to analyze? What about the data already analyzed? I feel like i just wasted 20+ years and got nothing for it.

No you did not waste 20 years, now we will get something from it.
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Message 2038515 - Posted: 17 Mar 2020, 16:51:58 UTC

IMHO if final data analyse will give negative result or even if it will be never finished at all, in ALL cases time spent on this project in those 20+ years was NOT wasted for all involved.
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Message 2038579 - Posted: 17 Mar 2020, 21:30:04 UTC

It pleases me to no end thinking about all the CPU's out there over the years that got overclocked to the point all the blue smoke came out of'em.

Bless this project and all the over clocking fun it brought to the masses.
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Message 2038590 - Posted: 17 Mar 2020, 22:47:58 UTC - in response to Message 2037634.  

Dear Tom, Thanks for the thoughts.
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Message 2038598 - Posted: 17 Mar 2020, 23:18:52 UTC

I have been part of this since 1999 and I am now on my last 8 WU.
Moving over to Folding@home.
Its been a blast.

Take care one and all and see you on the other side.
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Message 2038634 - Posted: 18 Mar 2020, 2:18:12 UTC

I hope you find some intelligent life. I'll bet they won't be hoarding toilet paper.
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Message 2038644 - Posted: 18 Mar 2020, 4:33:45 UTC - in response to Message 2038477.  

So your just stopping cold Turkey? No plans to collect additional data to analyze? What about the data already analyzed? I feel like i just wasted 20+ years and got nothing for it.

They are still collecting data https://seti.berkeley.edu/ They just aren't going to send it through seti@home, but will through Serendip.

In any case knowing how sensitive the search was will let those who come after know what to aim for to get a better chance. That alone is worth the 20 years. And we may be able to rule out a few close by stars and their exoplanets.
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Message 2038682 - Posted: 18 Mar 2020, 12:45:55 UTC

Well that's kind of sad. I've just returned to the project after a long, forced absence. I'll leave my connection open should help be needed in the future.
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Message 2038689 - Posted: 18 Mar 2020, 14:15:36 UTC - in response to Message 2038515.  

IMHO if final data analyze will give a negative result or even if it will be never finished at all, in ALL cases time spent on this project in those 20+ years was NOT wasted for all involved.


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Message 2038842 - Posted: 19 Mar 2020, 2:24:11 UTC - in response to Message 2038634.  

I hope you find some intelligent life. I'll bet they won't be hoarding toilet paper.


The aliens moved on from where we are to paperless bathrooms. You know - all digital.
I'm putting myself to the fullest possible use, which is all, I think, that any conscious entity can ever hope to do.
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Message 2038933 - Posted: 19 Mar 2020, 14:47:06 UTC - in response to Message 2035163.  

I'm a little bit gutted about this - but fully understanding of your reasons.

I hope i can chew up forther data for you in the future and have been very happy to have been a part of this pretty much since you started up.

There's plenty of spare computer power now, so it will be here as and when you return.

Please keep us posted with your literature publications and the plans for the future.

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Message 2038951 - Posted: 19 Mar 2020, 16:49:31 UTC - in response to Message 2036371.  

In this World of Billionaires, Millionaires, and others extremely Well Off(Ones Professing How Science Science Science is dA BE ALL and END ALL and Will Enthusiascally CONtribute) - and they CANNOT be convinced to Pony Up a Bunch of Dough for a Project, Hailed Ad Nauseam as a World History Changer, then there MUST NOT BE a CONvincing Argument to do so.

20+ Years to CONvince. And What? It has NEVER ADDED UP.

I Believe it ALL was a way to Create Part-Time Work for a few UCB Profs. It is always nice to have a very Well Paying Part-time Job.

World is FLUSH with CASH to Donate and Is Donated. But Here is a Project Constantly Portrayed as Humanities Greatest Discovery - once Discovered - and NOTHING.

Time to Sleep says S&H. 'cept Unlike a Bear. NOT WELL FED and HAPPY. Or are they?

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Wow!

erm, well, if you'd like to take a look back at the history of scientific investigation, experiment and evidence, you will find that there were far, FAR more studies which didn't necessarily meet their "ideal outcome". But that doesn't mean they were a waste of time. Negative results can be a positive for science: perhaps we're looking in the wrong places - as in maybe looking for radio signals is not a fruitful process. There will doubless be other ways to identify intelligent signals from outer space - perhaps we just collectively showed that this method is no ideal?

Just because you set up SETI on your PC, left it running for decades like the rest of us, and YOU didn't prove Alien life exists, does not make SETI a failure in any way shape or form. Sadly, you're just part of the modern day scourge of wanting everything on your plate - RIGHT. ****ING. NOW. OR. ELSE.

Well science doesn't work like that. It's an iterative process.

The fact you allude to this being a "CON" is really quite pathetic.

History is literered with experimental data that doesn't necessarily make a proof, but moreover, it points us in a different direction. That's how we live and learn. You should try that sometime.
In the meantime, if you want FAST results, maybe try computing some of the projects that have expected end points on BOINC or on the community grid and stop bitching at SETI - which IMO was an excellent initiative and worthy of my computer time. Unless of course it cost you more, then I suggest reflecting on the above, calm down, and understand that science doesn't just hand out answers simply because we ask a question.
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Message 2038952 - Posted: 19 Mar 2020, 17:11:55 UTC - in response to Message 2035438.  

Ok. Something here isn't making a lot of sense from my understanding how this project works. If only a small percentage of the sky has been analyzed, how is it possible at this point to get diminishing returns? What does that even mean? And why does "analyzing the back end" of the results require the shutting down of incoming data? I didn't know one was dependent on the other. Can't analyzing the back end and incoming data occur simultaneously? I have my own speculation of what is happening but it's just my own theory which I will keep to myself.


Is it the kind of theory that would involve using a large trout?
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Message 2038965 - Posted: 19 Mar 2020, 18:14:12 UTC - in response to Message 2035238.  

Well, maybe something could be set up to handle analysing the data? I mean - you have all of these Spocks out here wanting to do something.....

Also - you should set up so the SETI@Home program plays the ET music. Just once, all over the globe, we can all hope we meet some
other race.... :-)
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Message 2038966 - Posted: 19 Mar 2020, 18:20:52 UTC

Like I said: Why Billionaires and Super Millionaires NOT Give HUGE AMOUNTs of Dough to S&H? and continue to Do So till da bitter end?

Is da Dolla mO Important than dA Search fO Knowledge?

Must be.

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May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!!
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Message 2038983 - Posted: 19 Mar 2020, 21:05:10 UTC

Dear Seti@Home
You are aware if we uninstall Seti, that is it! all of our PetaFlops will fly away and you may never get them back again.
IF you find a pattern (or error) while writing your papers, we wont be back this way for a long time.
Your greatest assets outside of your skillset, is not your data, it is your enviable hoard of Fans who bought high powered PUs to improve there SETI throughput rather than bitcoin mining, who stuck with you guys while everyone jumped on the distributed computing bandwidth, who freed your funding to get time on the best radio telescopes.
You should be lending us to an associated project, adding project chunks to your engine and using our clout to get some funding kick back, some projects may be desperate for the boost our Seti Army can provide.
Without us, the broom cupboard you have been shoved in, all these years, would have been so so much smaller. University be like 'Searching for Aliens? - get outta here'
Without us, your next generation of researchers may never get this computing grunt ever again, just when the Very Large Array projects all over the world are getting off the ground.
Dont set us adrift now.

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Message 2038989 - Posted: 19 Mar 2020, 21:55:28 UTC - in response to Message 2038983.  

Citizen that would take manpower which S@H never has had.
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Message 2038990 - Posted: 19 Mar 2020, 21:59:24 UTC - in response to Message 2035163.  

It's hard to believe it's been going so many years.

I joined SETI@home April 3 1999.
I believe it officially started May.

I may have not processed much data, living in rural area, but pleased to offer the time.

I will be looking forward to helping out again.

SETI@home it's out there.

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Message 2038991 - Posted: 19 Mar 2020, 22:18:34 UTC

I'm a relative newcomer. Came here after seeing Dave Jones talk about it on his EEVBlog youtube channel. Sad to see it go, but it was fun and interesting while it lasted. Good luck to everyone going forward.

If anybody wants to pick up my 1060 and 980 GPUs that I no longer have any use for, let me know! Otherwise they will make their way onto the trash heap that is Ebay. Much rather see them put to good use.
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Message 2039009 - Posted: 20 Mar 2020, 0:25:13 UTC - in response to Message 2038991.  

I'm a relative newcomer. Came here after seeing Dave Jones talk about it on his EEVBlog youtube channel. Sad to see it go, but it was fun and interesting while it lasted. Good luck to everyone going forward.

If anybody wants to pick up my 1060 and 980 GPUs that I no longer have any use for, let me know! Otherwise they will make their way onto the trash heap that is Ebay. Much rather see them put to good use.


Someone was looking for a 980. Try the orphan thread or don't know where to post it thread.
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