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Message 2037987 - Posted: 15 Mar 2020, 2:02:19 UTC - in response to Message 2037985.  

So did you find anything and will you tell us where we can read your paper?


We won't know if there are any findings until the Nebula analysis is completed, which we don't have a timeframe for either as it's still in development. I wouldn't expect anything for a few months at least.

The resulting paper will definitely be made public; I'm pretty sure that this was already directly indicated by someone on the team who could make such a pronouncement; don't have the link handy though.
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Message 2037988 - Posted: 15 Mar 2020, 2:05:16 UTC - in response to Message 2037985.  
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I am very unhappy the search is ending.

Now the real science begins in earnest, Data collection has ended for the time being but looking at what has been done for the last 20 yrs plus is the object of this exercise.
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Message 2038023 - Posted: 15 Mar 2020, 4:27:04 UTC - in response to Message 2035163.  

Bueno pues NADA ES PARA SIEMPRE !!
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Message 2038032 - Posted: 15 Mar 2020, 8:59:50 UTC

Being a complete layman in this field I am not entirely sure I'll be able to understand the answer to my own question ;-) but I'll ask it anyway: What about Breakthrough Listen? In my mind, the fact that BL data was now being processed by SETI@home seemed a strong indication that the project would last much longer in its present form.
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Message 2038035 - Posted: 15 Mar 2020, 9:58:21 UTC - in response to Message 2038032.  

Being a complete layman in this field I am not entirely sure I'll be able to understand the answer to my own question ;-) but I'll ask it anyway: What about Breakthrough Listen? In my mind, the fact that BL data was now being processed by SETI@home seemed a strong indication that the project would last much longer in its present form.
That's a very good question, and I doubt anyone here knows the answer. People sometimes complain that the SETI@Home project has been taciturn over the years, slow to tell us what they're doing: but in comparison, Breakthrough Listen is positively Trappist.

The most recent item on the Breakthrough Listen news feed talks about making more data available for other people to process, but is silent on who might be doing that processing.
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Message 2038036 - Posted: 15 Mar 2020, 10:07:13 UTC - in response to Message 2038035.  
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The most recent item on the Breakthrough Listen news feed talks about making more data available for other people to process, but is silent on who might be doing that processing.

They collect, we process... but the analyse part stalls with Nebula... As I understand, main reason for hibernation is to finish Nebula and get results finally. "Results" that our computers return not real results in sense "yes, we found ET signal", they should be aggregated and summarized some way - that step Nebula should do. And to summarize them access to whole database of reported "signals"(in sense S@h client) required - that prevents DC-style of processing and limits our involvement in that stage.
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Message 2038039 - Posted: 15 Mar 2020, 10:29:10 UTC - in response to Message 2038036.  

Yes, it's a three - no, four - stage pipeline: collect, process, analyse, publish.

But if any one link in the chain is broken, the entire chain is useless. Up until now, the broken link has been the analysis. Now, we're proposing to break the processing link, to repair the analysis link. So there won't be anything more to analyse in future, despite the collection continuing at an ever-increasing pace.
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Message 2038041 - Posted: 15 Mar 2020, 10:37:05 UTC - in response to Message 2038039.  

Yes, it's a three - no, four - stage pipeline: collect, process, analyse, publish.

But if any one link in the chain is broken, the entire chain is useless. Up until now, the broken link has been the analysis. Now, we're proposing to break the processing link, to repair the analysis link. So there won't be anything more to analyse in future, despite the collection continuing at an ever-increasing pace.

Yep, "least of evil"-kind of decision - can't be really good....
Until SETI staff increased (I would say increase should be twice approx, at least 2 new persons with solid education in corresponding field and few graduates) it seems this inevitable...
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Message 2038044 - Posted: 15 Mar 2020, 11:51:33 UTC - in response to Message 2038041.  
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To my utter amazement I seem to grasp the general idea. I have a much clearer view of the whole process now. Thank you very much to you all!
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Message 2038049 - Posted: 15 Mar 2020, 12:39:58 UTC

This saddens me greatly =[
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Message 2038057 - Posted: 15 Mar 2020, 13:39:56 UTC - in response to Message 2035163.  

Or did they find something the goverment wouldnt tolerate and are shutting us down?
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Message 2038198 - Posted: 16 Mar 2020, 3:27:42 UTC - in response to Message 2035163.  

Dang, after so many years, I really will miss the SETI project and all that great team of folks behind it, as well as the very many people who made this project great with their computers .

Now where can I get tee shirts, caps, coffee mugs, etc? I want to always remember my time with SETI.
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Message 2038208 - Posted: 16 Mar 2020, 6:35:16 UTC

Wow.Didn't realise how long I had been running this. In that time only three computers as well, I must be a cheapskate.

This my first post as well?
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Message 2038271 - Posted: 16 Mar 2020, 13:56:56 UTC

Art Bell got me started in this endeavor as well. I started crunching with a Pentium 200 with the vaunted EDO memory in 2000. My machines are old and soon to be retired so when this restarts I hope to hit the ground running faster. Until then. . . . .
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Message 2038282 - Posted: 16 Mar 2020, 14:15:22 UTC - in response to Message 2038198.  
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Dang, after so many years, I really will miss the SETI project and all that great team of folks behind it, as well as the very many people who made this project great with their computers .

Now where can I get tee shirts, caps, coffee mugs, etc? I want to always remember my time with SETI.


https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=84072

I think you can still order/buy the 20th anniversary T-Shirts above.

https://society6.com/mugs/seti

Google claims coffee cups are above.

Below is a selection of T-shirts and cups
https://www.cafepress.com/+seti+gifts

And you may be able to design a cap there too.

HTH,
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Message 2038422 - Posted: 17 Mar 2020, 3:34:33 UTC

Shall we meet at the restaurant at the end of the universe?

Gonna miss it. Hope it returns with more projects in the future.
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Message 2038444 - Posted: 17 Mar 2020, 10:48:18 UTC - in response to Message 2035163.  

Ok
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Message 2038457 - Posted: 17 Mar 2020, 12:51:13 UTC - in response to Message 2035163.  

Wow, this really is the end of days... Or at least of an era. I've been with y'all since the early days, crunching all along the way. I'll think of you when I'm looking up at whatever night sky I happen to catch along the way between the light pollution. What we have down here among the lights is also amazing: a home allowing us the comfort and luxury to reach for the stars and think big. I suppose we are now entering a moment to really focus on that home. Maybe Corona will somehow help serve to kickstart the needed Green Revolution.

To the SETI team. Thanks for the hopes and dreams and hard work. Don't let us miss your eventual journal article!

And yes, thanks for all the fish.

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Message 2038477 - Posted: 17 Mar 2020, 14:25:46 UTC - in response to Message 2035163.  

So your just stopping cold Turkey? No plans to collect additional data to analyze? What about the data already analyzed? I feel like i just wasted 20+ years and got nothing for it.
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Message 2038492 - Posted: 17 Mar 2020, 15:36:23 UTC - in response to Message 2038477.  

So your just stopping cold Turkey? No plans to collect additional data to analyze? What about the data already analyzed? I feel like i just wasted 20+ years and got nothing for it.

Please re-read the post announcing the HIBERNATION of SETI@Home. They have 20 years of data, that they have collected from us, that needs analyzed and it CANNOT be done through distributed computing. What we are doing now is giving diminishing returns.

Have a great day! :)

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