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Message 2037064 - Posted: 10 Mar 2020, 4:38:37 UTC - in response to Message 2036977.  

"If I were the paranoid type I would probably think that the real reason for stopping was because we've known the ET's have been here for years and it's just silly to keep looking." Bingo.
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Message 2037084 - Posted: 10 Mar 2020, 9:04:19 UTC - in response to Message 2036117.  

I'm particapating with SETI@home since May 2003. I am very sad to hear that SETI@home will go in hibernaton soon.
At the moment I'm developing my own antenne array, so I can continue the search. I use dishes variating from diameter of 1 meter to 3 meters across. Also I will scan from 250MHz up to 16GHz.
Hope SETI@home will return soon.


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Message 2037088 - Posted: 10 Mar 2020, 9:43:54 UTC
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Thanks to the S@H team for the outstanding work. Not only on SETI, but also on BOINC. A lot of people are getting very upset about S@H being mothballed, which is understandable up to a point, although some of the posts here say more about the poster than about the project.

No hard thing can be got at directly. Fundamental science is not just about the headline question. Why? Often its byproducts end up as significant (e.g. Newton having to invent calculus to do celestial mechanics, CERN giving rise to HTTP or S@H giving rise to BOINC). Also, all science is incremental. Someday the S@H work will enable something else by being the shoulders someone else stands on. In fact, it already is.

The science isn't done yet. In a couple of centuries we'll have a better sense of how far we've got, if we're still around. To help make sure we're still around, crunch other projects (join Science United to give smaller projects a chance), join the Long Now Foundation, get involved in Effective Altruism.
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Message 2037100 - Posted: 10 Mar 2020, 12:49:32 UTC - in response to Message 2035163.  

Hello, thank you for this exciting project. I have been there since May 1999, the whole 20 years, and have done my best to support you.
I am a little disappointed that it is over, but I think (as you wrote it) it has done a lot for networked computing.
Greetings to the whole team and thank you for letting me be there.
Wolfgang from Cologne- Germany (Translated with Google for ease)
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Message 2037104 - Posted: 10 Mar 2020, 13:55:17 UTC - in response to Message 2037080.  
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First, we were all erroneously lied to in this email,
From Jeff
At the time it was written it was genuinely believed to be correct.


So what changed? The hibernation announcement doesn't seem to address that. It just expresses an almost 180 degree point of view.

I think the simplest explanation is that highly skilled and educated scientists got sick of playing IT support.

Completely untrue. Why do you think the Servers were all moved downhill to the CoLo, in the town. So that their staff had a supply of hot swap disks to provide IT support.


Well, the number 2 reason in the hibernation announcement was "It's a lot of work for us to manage the distributed processing of data. We need to focus on completing the back-end analysis of the results we already have..." so this seems somewhat contradictory.

I see in the link you posted that funding is another reason given. It doesn't seem like they really wanted to try to overcome that though as it's not as if they put out a call for help. I imagine they could have raised a lot of money if they had brought up the possibility of a shut down. People don't always realize how much on the edge such a project is until something like that happens. So I guess it comes down really to a matter of time. Something they thought they could deal with a few months ago but not as they got a little more into post processing work.

Don't get me wrong, seti@home doesn't owe me anything and I certainly don't think anybody was intentionally lying about anything. It just seems like there was a fairly sudden change of heart with the only real reason given is that there isn't enough time to continue to support seti@home as it is today and work on further back end analysis of the data (which apparently wasn't an issue a few months ago). People who have been participating for the last couple of decades are obviously disappointed and are generally unsatisfied with the relatively sudden and rather terse announcement that it's ending (at least the distributed part). But then some people would never be satisfied. I will miss seti@home greatly but I've been participating in other projects as well for a long, long time so I'll move on. Hopefully, it will return again one day and this truly is just a "hibernation".
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Message 2037107 - Posted: 10 Mar 2020, 14:44:50 UTC - in response to Message 2035163.  

The years of work on seven computers in my office and home has provided a substantial amount of input and assessments.
The search of the universe and worlds for possible other species through Seti is very, very, very, important and helpful for
us to discover if we actually exist with other high functioning species.
Clearly this should continue to find other worlds with other species.

PLEASE KEEP THIS UP AND RUNNING SO WE CAN SEARCH THE WORLDS.

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Message 2037110 - Posted: 10 Mar 2020, 15:03:13 UTC

Somebody (all of us) needs to take Dr. Korpela and all the Seti@Home staff out to a really nice dinner and celebrate the wonderful contributions to Seti@Home over the years.

21 years...INCREDIBLE RUN!
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Message 2037125 - Posted: 10 Mar 2020, 17:23:07 UTC

The sad news hit me like a bucket of cold water. SETI@home has been a part of my life for over twenty years. The statement that SETI@home is going to hibernation (it sounds to me as a Noble lie) doesn’t help with the pain.

I joined the project just at the start of the new century. I remember crunching data work units with a budget computer and a 56k modem (phone bills were of this size).

Despite modest results (it is a result too) today after all those years and several computers burned I continue enjoy it as I did the first day 20 years ago hoping to hear someday a WOW! Signal.

SETI@home is a unique scientific project like no other with the ability to attract millions of non-scientific people from all over the globe with the hope of helping to find intelligence out there. Really a social phenomenon.

I can’t understand why end a project pioneer on Distributed Computing that have achieved a huge computing capabilities and millions of enthusiast volunteers in a time of cheap and high performance personal computer hardware. In a time where advances on radio communications have boosted as never before radio astronomy.

Anyway thank you to the SETI@home team for making us dream throughout all these years.

Farewell SETI@home.
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Message 2037127 - Posted: 10 Mar 2020, 17:48:57 UTC

Somebody (all of us) needs to take Dr. Korpela and all the Seti@Home staff out to a really nice dinner and celebrate the wonderful contributions to Seti@Home over the years.


Send them coupons for Cheeseburgers. I read once 'bout their liking of cheeseburgers.

'specially if they haz coupons.

Part-time monies is GOoD, REAL GOoD, however who don't like a discount?

May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!!
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Message 2037130 - Posted: 10 Mar 2020, 17:56:02 UTC

If we all shout Encore! Encore! then the project is obliged to keep going for at least a couple more years.
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Message 2037136 - Posted: 10 Mar 2020, 18:29:53 UTC - in response to Message 2035181.  

Aborted all tasks too, and it's a dead end to talk about "start distributing work again". I was a member just for 5 years but ending this project in that way? Good luck seti@home team.
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Message 2037137 - Posted: 10 Mar 2020, 18:36:34 UTC - in response to Message 2035543.  
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Group Question: To what project are you going to direct all your NVIDIA computing power after March 31?

GPU-s to Einstein@Home, CPU-s to Rosetta@Home. :)

It was a near 20 years ride that I will remember till my last day! I hope our data to be useful for for some scientific breakthrough.

Big thank you to the staff of the project!
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Message 2037181 - Posted: 10 Mar 2020, 22:14:10 UTC

j ai 51 ans et j ai utilisé le programme Seti bien avant boinc , je vous est suivie depuis le début j jusqu'à aujourd huit j'espère que nous auront d’autre information suite a tout ce temps passé a faire fonctionner nos ordinateurs pour Seti depuis y a d autre projet avec boinc mes seti était quelque chose de particuliers pour moi la recherche des extraterrestres 👽
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Message 2037191 - Posted: 10 Mar 2020, 22:32:34 UTC - in response to Message 2037165.  

It's only natural that they have to shut down SETI. The risk that we would be spreading the Coronavirus through our computers,
are way way too high. That would be a global catastrophy of course.....

It's possible that the virus came to Earth through the Arecibo telescope, or through the Green Bank Telescope. It could be an attack from some Alien civilization, in preparation for a full scale invasion....

The safest thing to do now, would be to stop sending out work immediately, but if they do not do that, I do hope that the project have a good Anti Virus program, scanning the work they are sending out now.


LOLOLOLOL Best sarcasm ever )))),... really people : And " wash you hands after you send finnished task from your computer - boinc manager back to projects servers " ,,,,
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Message 2037199 - Posted: 10 Mar 2020, 23:00:25 UTC - in response to Message 2037110.  

Somebody (all of us) needs to take Dr. Korpela and all the Seti@Home staff out to a really nice dinner and celebrate the wonderful contributions to Seti@Home over the years.

21 years...INCREDIBLE RUN!


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Message 2037230 - Posted: 11 Mar 2020, 2:18:52 UTC

I feel like a part of my daily life is coming to an end. I have been processing work units since May 15 1999 and Seti@home has become just a normal part of my life. I will look at other BOINC projects but to me any other project will just not be the same. I'm not sure how I feel about this. I think I may convert some of my more powerful computers to GPU mining bitcoin and see how that goes for a while. At least mining will offset some of the investment in hardware. Best of luck to the S@H team!
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Message 2037241 - Posted: 11 Mar 2020, 4:17:46 UTC - in response to Message 2037230.  

I feel like a part of my daily life is coming to an end. I have been processing work units since May 15 1999 and Seti@home has become just a normal part of my life. I will look at other BOINC projects but to me any other project will just not be the same. I'm not sure how I feel about this. I think I may convert some of my more powerful computers to GPU mining bitcoin and see how that goes for a while. At least mining will offset some of the investment in hardware. Best of luck to the S@H team!


I feel a little upset about this sudden "hibernation".

After 20 years of work, several changes in technology, etc. Suddenly: "Thats it guys see u later.."

Guess I have no words to express my feelings right now.
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Message 2037247 - Posted: 11 Mar 2020, 4:48:08 UTC - in response to Message 2037230.  

Same here ! What do you know about "Gridcoin" . Is that legit ? Seems to use BOINC for distributed mining. TIA

I feel like a part of my daily life is coming to an end. I have been processing work units since May 15 1999 and Seti@home has become just a normal part of my life. I will look at other BOINC projects but to me any other project will just not be the same. I'm not sure how I feel about this. I think I may convert some of my more powerful computers to GPU mining bitcoin and see how that goes for a while. At least mining will offset some of the investment in hardware. Best of luck to the S@H team!

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Message 2037253 - Posted: 11 Mar 2020, 6:42:21 UTC - in response to Message 2035163.  

oh no!!! i didn't ever think this would happen
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Message 2037254 - Posted: 11 Mar 2020, 7:00:10 UTC - in response to Message 2037247.  

Same here ! What do you know about "Gridcoin" . Is that legit ? Seems to use BOINC for distributed mining. TIA

https://gridcoin.us/
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