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Message 2033932 - Posted: 25 Feb 2020, 13:40:08 UTC

I went away on vacation for a extended weekend and left Seti running on my new system with the RTX 2060 - came back to a failed card. Is this common? I know I can throttle the CPU usage (and I do to 50%), is there a way to throttle the GPU usage as not to stress the card too much? Does Seti not play well with that particular card? Wondering if I just just disable the GPU crunching as I do not want this to happen again.
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Message 2033936 - Posted: 25 Feb 2020, 13:59:41 UTC - in response to Message 2033932.  

Thank goodness, for your sake, that it would still have been under warranty.

I had a GTX 670 fail on me, about 7 years ago - and one month out of warranty. I lost a GTX 970 to a failed fan last year, after about 3½ years continuous running. Nothing else has failed, even the three GTX 750 Tis which were running on motherboards knocked out by a power surge.

I'd say you were just unlucky with a 'Friday build' - nothing to stop you replacing it and picking up where it left off.
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Message 2033943 - Posted: 26 Feb 2020, 2:58:53 UTC

My guess is that the card was not over-stressed. The reason I think that is because there are other "special sauces" of seti you can run that stress the GPU more than the stock application. That is to say, it completes the same task in less time.

I agree with Richard, you just happened to have been sent a bad card. I've been running a 1660 Ti for several months now 24/7 with no issues. I would just RMA the card.
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Message 2033946 - Posted: 26 Feb 2020, 3:07:45 UTC

My 2060 has been running continuously, except for the occasional re-boot since I updated this computer on 27th April 2019.

As suggested RMA it and get replacement.
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Message 2033950 - Posted: 26 Feb 2020, 3:24:59 UTC - in response to Message 2033932.  

Wondering if I just just disable the GPU crunching as I do not want this to happen again.
When you get another card, run something like GPUz and check to see what temperature it is running at.
70°c or less and it should be good for 24/7/365 operation for a decade or two.
As long as it's not a lemon, any video card that's kept cool will last for years even with continuous operation.
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Message 2033965 - Posted: 26 Feb 2020, 3:57:54 UTC

I just lost my first RTX 2080 Hybrid. Purchased 2/2019. Rather early for the pump to fail. Normally they fail around 18 months. RMA tomorrow.
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Message 2033987 - Posted: 26 Feb 2020, 6:47:35 UTC

What I do is to reduce power limit. Then card remains cool, power section is not stressed so much, fans are less noisy.
My 1660ti works at minimum 58% power limit in afterburner, while 1080ti is at 200W under Linux.
They crunch less, but advantages are significant - additionally no damages to any of my hardware for years.
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Message 2034033 - Posted: 26 Feb 2020, 15:24:19 UTC - in response to Message 2033987.  

I do the same thing. But I actually add overclock to the cards to recover the performance lost from power limiting. Your power limit stays even when overclocked. Win-win.
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Message 2034038 - Posted: 26 Feb 2020, 15:52:40 UTC

Thanks for all your tips and suggestions! I set up the replacement yesterday so hopefully will have the new card soon. I have shut down seti for now until I get the new card, running the on-board graphics currently. Hopefully this card will last longer!
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Message 2034040 - Posted: 26 Feb 2020, 15:56:28 UTC

When you run seti (or any program who heavily uses the GPU resources) is recommended to increase the fan speed to keep the card cooler. Any program like afterburner or EVGA precision (there are a lot of others) will do that for you. What is important: keep you GPU running cool as possible.
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Message 2034084 - Posted: 26 Feb 2020, 20:51:54 UTC - in response to Message 2033946.  

My 2060 has been running continuously, except for the occasional re-boot since I updated this computer on 27th April 2019.

As suggested RMA it and get replacement.


Might I ask as to what temps your are getting on your RTX 2060????

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Message 2034092 - Posted: 26 Feb 2020, 21:45:01 UTC - in response to Message 2034084.  
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My 2060 has been running continuously, except for the occasional re-boot since I updated this computer on 27th April 2019.

As suggested RMA it and get replacement.


Might I ask as to what temps your are getting on your RTX 2060????

Regards

52C (126F) with fan on auto. It is only air cooled, I haven't seen need to put the fan to max.

I hate fan noise and and case it close enough I can reach far side without moving.
I also hate water cooling, used to work on high power radio transmitters with water at 300psi, radiator as big a a large bed.

Edit] forgot to say I use Silverstone FHP141 case fans where possible, they are 38mm (1½" depth)
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Message 2034102 - Posted: 26 Feb 2020, 23:01:12 UTC - in response to Message 2034092.  

My 2060 has been running continuously, except for the occasional re-boot since I updated this computer on 27th April 2019.

As suggested RMA it and get replacement.


Might I ask as to what temps your are getting on your RTX 2060????

Regards

52C (126F) with fan on auto. It is only air cooled, I haven't seen need to put the fan to max.

I hate fan noise and and case it close enough I can reach far side without moving.
I also hate water cooling, used to work on high power radio transmitters with water at 300psi, radiator as big a a large bed.

Edit] forgot to say I use Silverstone FHP141 case fans where possible, they are 38mm (1½" depth)


Thankyou for that, gives me food for thought with my 2060.
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Message 2034214 - Posted: 27 Feb 2020, 17:42:17 UTC

I just received and swapped the card. Running Seti for about the last 10 minutes along with GPU-Z.

GPU temp seems to be holding steady around 65C with the fan speed at 29% - ambient air temp is 68F.

I have Seti set to only run 25% of the CPU - currently running around 85C on the CPU.

I typically have Seti not run the GPU when I am on the computer, just when I am away. I will re-enable that once I make sure this card does not get too hot.

Thanks!
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Message 2034306 - Posted: 27 Feb 2020, 23:09:06 UTC - in response to Message 2033932.  

I went away on vacation for a extended weekend

Just a thought, was the A/C on? Thinking the ambient temp might have been partly at fault. Of course in winter that isn't it, but trips in summer it can be an issue.
99.99% it was a bad card and I see you have a replacement.
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Message 2034354 - Posted: 28 Feb 2020, 4:15:37 UTC - in response to Message 2034214.  

GPU temp seems to be holding steady around 65C with the fan speed at 29% - ambient air temp is 68F.

I have Seti set to only run 25% of the CPU - currently running around 85C on the CPU.

GPU is very cool, CPU is extremely hot for such a light workload.
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Message 2034355 - Posted: 28 Feb 2020, 4:17:39 UTC - in response to Message 2034354.  

GPU temp seems to be holding steady around 65C with the fan speed at 29% - ambient air temp is 68F.

I have Seti set to only run 25% of the CPU - currently running around 85C on the CPU.
GPU is very cool, CPU is extremely hot for such a light workload.
Far too hot.

Cheers.
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Message 2034382 - Posted: 28 Feb 2020, 8:21:24 UTC

I'm going with Seti didn't "toast" your GPU, it just caused a manufacturing fault to show up earlier than it otherwise might have. In this case, while it was still in warranty, so it was a GOOD thing.

If you had bought the card and decided to run Blender and create the next LOTR movie, it would also have run at 100% (for several years), and also died.

So either manufacturers are selling cards that are over specced, or it was faulty.

It's a bit like buying a car, and the engine blows up. The dealer then says, "Oh, you took the engine to the red-line, sorry, that's not covered. " Of course it's covered, the "red-line" is what the manufacturer says the engine can safely run at. (and they put a rev limiter there to keep you honest). Same with a computer, if they say it should run at full load a "x" clock speed, then it should . Even if your room gets to warm etc, then the thermal protection "should" kick in and drop the clock speed to keep things safe. Now if you overclock and mess with the cooling? Yeah, you could cook something.

Now not every laptop / AIO has sufficient cooling, but the thermal throttling should still stop them melting.

BTW, I often use a few days of SETI work as a "burn in test" on a new / repaired machine. If it can run a weekend of that, then it's "good", and some useful work units got done. Seems more use than just doing random prime number tests.
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Message 2034393 - Posted: 28 Feb 2020, 11:53:15 UTC - in response to Message 2034382.  

Well I have the following

MSI RTX 2060 Ventus XS 6GB

Running in PC case in a room of ambiet temp of around 26C, with side cover off, it still manages to get to around 77c - 80c.

Well thats not good, but then I did the websearch on this model, turns out, its very common for this model of card, cheap cooling solution.

Even checked on the MSI forums, where a couple of respondents have said that is still okay to run.

Ummm, its still a hard pill to swallow after paying so much for them here in Australia.

Well looks like either I stick this cruncher in the back fridge or move to the South Pole lol.

Still to do some more troubleshooting tips, just in case there is a dodgy temp sensor, last time I touched it, it didnt feel that hot though.

Cheers
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Message 2034395 - Posted: 28 Feb 2020, 12:12:36 UTC

While the finger test can be good, it can be somewhat misleading :-(
GPU temperature sensors tend to be well buried within the chips themselves and so the surface temperature will be somewhat lower than that where the probes are.

Book your passage to Antarctica ;-)
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