The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119)

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Message 2040727 - Posted: 27 Mar 2020, 2:58:39 UTC
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Is not fair, you already have so much, leave few MB to us. LOL
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Message 2040740 - Posted: 27 Mar 2020, 4:39:36 UTC

Supposedly 235k ready-to-send, but that was an hour (or more) ago when the SSP last updated.
"Project has no tasks available" is the present response from the Scheduler; it least it's responding.
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Message 2040742 - Posted: 27 Mar 2020, 4:52:27 UTC - in response to Message 2040740.  

Supposedly 235k ready-to-send, but that was an hour (or more) ago when the SSP last updated.
"Project has no tasks available" is the present response from the Scheduler; it least it's responding.

26-Mar-2020 20:35:56 [SETI@home] Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
26-Mar-2020 20:42:06 [SETI@home] Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
26-Mar-2020 20:42:44 [SETI@home] Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
26-Mar-2020 20:47:56 [SETI@home] Scheduler request completed: got 2 new tasks
26-Mar-2020 20:53:05 [SETI@home] Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
26-Mar-2020 21:03:17 [SETI@home] Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
26-Mar-2020 21:08:25 [SETI@home] Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
26-Mar-2020 21:13:34 [SETI@home] Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
26-Mar-2020 21:18:47 [SETI@home] Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
26-Mar-2020 21:23:55 [SETI@home] Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
26-Mar-2020 21:29:04 [SETI@home] Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
26-Mar-2020 21:34:12 [SETI@home] Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
26-Mar-2020 21:39:21 [SETI@home] Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
26-Mar-2020 21:44:30 [SETI@home] Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
26-Mar-2020 21:49:38 [SETI@home] Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks

In my best Dory voice:
Cache is dwindling
Cache is dwindling
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Message 2040743 - Posted: 27 Mar 2020, 4:56:35 UTC - in response to Message 2040742.  

26-Mar-2020 20:47:56 [SETI@home] Scheduler request completed: got 2 new tasks

In my best Dory voice:
Cache is dwindling
Cache is dwindling
At least you got 2!
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Message 2040745 - Posted: 27 Mar 2020, 5:00:19 UTC - in response to Message 2040743.  

26-Mar-2020 20:47:56 [SETI@home] Scheduler request completed: got 2 new tasks

In my best Dory voice:
Cache is dwindling
Cache is dwindling
At least you got 2!

And as I said above, it looks like it is absolutely weighted against the highest performing machines. Check your least productive one.
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Message 2040747 - Posted: 27 Mar 2020, 5:05:40 UTC
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And just like that, the spigot opens up.
26-Mar-2020 21:54:47 [SETI@home] Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
26-Mar-2020 22:00:01 [SETI@home] Scheduler request completed: got 28 new tasks
26-Mar-2020 22:05:09 [SETI@home] Scheduler request completed: got 37 new tasks
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Message 2040749 - Posted: 27 Mar 2020, 5:20:02 UTC - in response to Message 2040747.  
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And just like that, the spigot opens up.
26-Mar-2020 21:54:47 [SETI@home] Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
26-Mar-2020 22:00:01 [SETI@home] Scheduler request completed: got 28 new tasks
26-Mar-2020 22:05:09 [SETI@home] Scheduler request completed: got 37 new tasks
Woohoo!
38 & 13 on one, 13 & 30 on the other.
I'm convinced the Scheduler is tied in to the forums somehow. Posting about something almost always gets the problem sorted (even if just for a while).



Edit- and all the statuses on the Server Status Page are updating again as well.
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Message 2040750 - Posted: 27 Mar 2020, 5:31:11 UTC - in response to Message 2040749.  

It is odd that some things correct when we discuss them.
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Message 2040751 - Posted: 27 Mar 2020, 5:32:53 UTC - in response to Message 2040750.  

I wonder if one of the people in the deep learning classes has a bot listening to certain pages.
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Message 2040752 - Posted: 27 Mar 2020, 5:37:55 UTC

Looks like it was just a glitch- back to "Project has no tasks available" again.
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Message 2040754 - Posted: 27 Mar 2020, 5:43:35 UTC - in response to Message 2040752.  

I've gotten 15 more in two downloads.
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Message 2040755 - Posted: 27 Mar 2020, 5:44:17 UTC - in response to Message 2040754.  

add 28 to that.
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Message 2040756 - Posted: 27 Mar 2020, 5:48:48 UTC - in response to Message 2040755.  

add 28 to that.
Still zilch since that previous surge.
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Message 2040758 - Posted: 27 Mar 2020, 5:57:58 UTC - in response to Message 2040756.  

It's made me swap configurations twice to take care of some of these astropulse tasks.
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Message 2040760 - Posted: 27 Mar 2020, 6:27:24 UTC - in response to Message 2040698.  

Still receiving and completing tasks, but credits have pretty much flatlined.
Nothing changed on my setups.
It had been 27th day for 30 minutes (in UTC time that the manager graph uses) when you posted that so how many credits you had expected to gain in those 30 minutes?
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Message 2040761 - Posted: 27 Mar 2020, 6:38:02 UTC - in response to Message 2040745.  

And as I said above, it looks like it is absolutely weighted against the highest performing machines. Check your least productive one.
Doesn't look like that. I have two computers - a 45k RAC one and a 115k RAC one. During the time since midnight UTC the slower machine has received 154 tasks total. The faster machine 350 tasks total. The caches of both machines are about equally depleted when measured in hours.
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Message 2040762 - Posted: 27 Mar 2020, 6:46:49 UTC - in response to Message 2040761.  

And as I said above, it looks like it is absolutely weighted against the highest performing machines. Check your least productive one.
Doesn't look like that. I have two computers - a 45k RAC one and a 115k RAC one. During the time since midnight UTC the slower machine has received 154 tasks total. The faster machine 350 tasks total. The caches of both machines are about equally depleted when measured in hours.

That's great when looking over the 24 hour period, but when everyone else wasn't getting crap, others were. Since then, everyone is getting stuff, so it is a little hard to localize over those hours.
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Message 2040764 - Posted: 27 Mar 2020, 6:59:08 UTC - in response to Message 2040761.  
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And as I said above, it looks like it is absolutely weighted against the highest performing machines. Check your least productive one.
Doesn't look like that. I have two computers - a 45k RAC one and a 115k RAC one. During the time since midnight UTC the slower machine has received 154 tasks total. The faster machine 350 tasks total. The caches of both machines are about equally depleted when measured in hours.
Looks that way to me. I have 4 slower machines and their caches are near full. I have 3 faster machines, 2 of those have been Out of Work for Hours, and the 3rd one just ran Out. It's been this way for at least 8 years that I'm aware of, it's related to SETI using a hard numerical cap instead of the BOINC method of tasks by usage over a set time period. The SETI method does a really good job of keeping the Slowest machines running while the fastest ones set idle. Only after the Slowest machines are Full does the Server send enough work to the faster machines to keep them running. With a reduced WU production the faster machines will never receive enough work to keep them running using the SETI method.

Right now the Server is again out to lunch as the times are an Hour outdated. It seems every time someone fixes it, it lasts for a few rounds then goes out to lunch again.
Results received in last hour is back down to 116,429 again.
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Message 2040765 - Posted: 27 Mar 2020, 7:01:46 UTC - in response to Message 2040761.  

And as I said above, it looks like it is absolutely weighted against the highest performing machines. Check your least productive one.
I've been complaining about that for quite some time, and my observations are that this is indeed the case over the long term.
I recall someone (Richard, perhaps) mentioning that the issue was that the "fast-burners" are naturally requesting more replacement work, and if the number of seconds of work requested exceeds the available, you get nothing rather than a lower proportion. Probably not intentional coding; just another one of those unintended consequences. Certainly annoying, and one of a long list of issues that I will not miss about SETI in its current configuration.
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Message 2040766 - Posted: 27 Mar 2020, 7:17:33 UTC - in response to Message 2040745.  

[]At least you got 2!

And as I said above, it looks like it is absolutely weighted against the highest performing machines. Check your least productive one.


. . My fastest machine has been empty for many hours now ... :(

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