The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119)

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Message 2053255 - Posted: 13 Jul 2020, 22:17:38 UTC - in response to Message 2053246.  

But with shiny windows!
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Message 2053257 - Posted: 13 Jul 2020, 23:07:35 UTC - in response to Message 2053245.  

And even after all that time, the last of my Valids haven' been cleared.

None of those stats have updated since 16 June
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Message 2053278 - Posted: 14 Jul 2020, 6:41:14 UTC - in response to Message 2053245.  

And even after all that time, the last of my Valids haven' been cleared.
Appears that they have been waiting for all tasks in a WU to get to deadline (either by completing task or by missing deadline) before taking off list, even though task marked as valid. My last WU (3944583333) has 3 valid tasks, including mine. However, 4th task is waiting for 7/24 deadline by an anonymous host which hasn't checked in since 6/15/20. Pretty sure won't make deadline!!
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Message 2053280 - Posted: 14 Jul 2020, 7:12:00 UTC - in response to Message 2053278.  
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And even after all that time, the last of my Valids haven' been cleared.
Appears that they have been waiting for all tasks in a WU to get to deadline (either by completing task or by missing deadline) before taking off list, even though task marked as valid.
That has been the case the whole time, it's just that there are Tasks in my Valids that should have timed out over 3 weeks ago, but are still showing as In progress.
The system just isn't processing them.


As Jimbocous mentioned, it's been broken since the 16th of June, and it's still broken even after the extra extended outage.
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Message 2053317 - Posted: 14 Jul 2020, 21:23:30 UTC

Greetings,

The SSP has been updated today, July 14th. There's not much info on the page. I looked at my account stats and I still have 10 valid tasks listed. Go figure...

Have a great day! :)

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Message 2053318 - Posted: 14 Jul 2020, 21:34:32 UTC - in response to Message 2053317.  

Yup, that's something - different. But says very little about status.

Likewise, my last 16 'active' tasks remain in the state they were in at 16 June. Until they restart the full processing chain, we won't really know where we stand.
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Message 2053334 - Posted: 15 Jul 2020, 7:14:54 UTC

I have a feeling that during the "long outage" they moved from the Colo back to a more "office based" system.

It would make sense, to save money, also they no longer need the fast connection provided by the Colo.
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Message 2053343 - Posted: 15 Jul 2020, 8:07:35 UTC

This is bugging me no end!
After posting on the coronavirus thread, clicked on "Message Boards" & see that a post was made on the "News" 14 minutes ago.
So off I go to the news thread.
Huh??
Last post was 14 days so refreshed screen & have done that for the past 15 min or so.
It's currently showing 33 minutes.
Anyone else seeing this?
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Message 2053344 - Posted: 15 Jul 2020, 8:29:10 UTC - in response to Message 2053343.  

This is bugging me no end!
After posting on the coronavirus thread, clicked on "Message Boards" & see that a post was made on the "News" 14 minutes ago.
So off I go to the news thread.
Huh??
Last post was 14 days so refreshed screen & have done that for the past 15 min or so.
It's currently showing 33 minutes.
Anyone else seeing this?

Just checked. It is showing 57 minutes now.
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Message 2053346 - Posted: 15 Jul 2020, 8:40:40 UTC

Ah good, so not me then. Thought I'd lost my mind...
...what am I doing here?
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Message 2053349 - Posted: 15 Jul 2020, 9:10:14 UTC - in response to Message 2053348.  

Ah good, so not me then. Thought I'd lost my mind...
...what am I doing here?
:-)

I'm not sure, but I think that happens when a mod moves a post to another thread.
If the post is hidden though, the last post time moves back to before that post was posted.

As I said, I'm not sure I'm right about that.


You are right Grumpy.

The time reflects the last visible post.

That resets when a post is moved or hidden to the previous viewable post time \ date.
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Message 2053375 - Posted: 15 Jul 2020, 17:21:02 UTC

The post may have been completely removed by an administrator.
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Message 2053545 - Posted: 18 Jul 2020, 6:31:50 UTC - in response to Message 2053343.  

This is bugging me no end!
After posting on the coronavirus thread, clicked on "Message Boards" & see that a post was made on the "News" 14 minutes ago.
So off I go to the news thread.
Huh??
Last post was 14 days so refreshed screen & have done that for the past 15 min or so.
It's currently showing 33 minutes.
Anyone else seeing this?
Now more weirdness.
Technical news is showing a Last post 12 hours ago. But looking there shows nothing posted for years- all the threads are locked.
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Message 2053549 - Posted: 18 Jul 2020, 7:34:32 UTC - in response to Message 2053545.  

This is bugging me no end!
After posting on the coronavirus thread, clicked on "Message Boards" & see that a post was made on the "News" 14 minutes ago.
So off I go to the news thread.
Huh??
Last post was 14 days so refreshed screen & have done that for the past 15 min or so.
It's currently showing 33 minutes.
Anyone else seeing this?
Now more weirdness.
Technical news is showing a Last post 12 hours ago. But looking there shows nothing posted for years- all the threads are locked.

Far more weird is that only mods/admins can start a thread there. As everything else has been locked long term it can't be from a normal user.
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Message 2053555 - Posted: 18 Jul 2020, 8:38:15 UTC

It happens when an someone posts a new thread and a moderator or admin then hides that thread. The time will go back to the previous old time when one hides the post first, then the thread.
If you just hide the thread, that thread's new post time will stay visible.

Same when an admin deletes the thread instead of the post. The post is what makes the new post time.
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Message 2053560 - Posted: 18 Jul 2020, 10:09:50 UTC - in response to Message 2053555.  

When a mod hides or deletes a post as Jord describes, the index page for the sub-forum ('News', 'Number crunching') reverts to displaying the timestamp for the newest still-visible post.

But the master index page remains stuck on the timestamp of the now-invisible hidden/deleted post: it is not reverted. That's how we know that Technical News had a flicker of life 16 hours ago (as I type), but we can't see which thread was affected in the Technical News index.
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Message 2053564 - Posted: 18 Jul 2020, 11:49:26 UTC

Okay, just tested it on the BOINC forums. Index now shows a post was made but you'll find nothing there. Not even moderators will find anything there.
I made a new thread.

Then hid the thread. That hides both the whole thread and the new time to post from the main index.
Unhid the thread.
Hid the post. That leaves the thread title without any visible posts.
Unhid the thread,

Then I deleted the post. This hides both the thread and the post but leaves the thread's new post time visible.
So that's what's happened in these cases. Admin made a post and instead of hiding it, he deleted it. That leaves the new post time intact.

(So it's the other way around, one has to hide or delete the thread for the time to revert. And not as I surmised hide or delete the post)
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Message 2053589 - Posted: 18 Jul 2020, 16:59:54 UTC

Different look today of the Server Status page. Very truncated with the "The database server is not accessible" message in the normal place.
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Message 2053641 - Posted: 19 Jul 2020, 6:14:47 UTC - in response to Message 2053589.  

Different look today of the Server Status page. Very truncated with the "The database server is not accessible" message in the normal place.

Looks like the last workunit has timed out or been timed out.
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Message 2053642 - Posted: 19 Jul 2020, 6:27:00 UTC - in response to Message 2053641.  

Looks like the last workunit has timed out or been timed out.
Still got 13 in my Valid list, and the SSP is still broken.
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