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tullio Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 8797 Credit: 2,930,782 RAC: 1 |
Science United reports for every project the CPU usage and the GPU usage, and the relative weight. Mostly CPU usage is greater tha GPU usage. There is only a project, GPUGRID where the reverse is true. Tullio |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14667 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
Science United will be reporting the BOINC figures - it has no independent source of data. The BOINC estimates of how much CPU support will be needed for a GPU application are notoriously unreliable: they take no account of the programming language used (which makes a huge difference), and they are not adjusted in the light of observed reality. |
Tom M Send message Joined: 28 Nov 02 Posts: 5124 Credit: 276,046,078 RAC: 462 |
It's a dumbed down way to run boinc for the social media generation. One step towards the society depicted in the movie 'Idiocracy'.found a Science United Account with 2.8K hosts and a lot of tasks in progress ...Science United is a collection of thousands of different people that use that platform to crunch BOINC projects instead of manually attaching to projects. no one person is managing all of the computers on that account. +1 I have always liked that story :) Tom M A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association). |
Keith T. Send message Joined: 23 Aug 99 Posts: 962 Credit: 537,293 RAC: 9 |
"Results waiting for db purging" may exceed " Results returned and awaiting validation" in the next few hours ! |
juan BFP Send message Joined: 16 Mar 07 Posts: 9786 Credit: 572,710,851 RAC: 3,799 |
At this rate soon they will pass the Results out in the field too. LOL |
Keith T. Send message Joined: 23 Aug 99 Posts: 962 Credit: 537,293 RAC: 9 |
At this rate soon they will pass the Results out in the field too. LOL I think that will probably be at least 24 hours at the current rate. Average turnaround times are now more than 7 days for both V8 and AstroPulse, they were below 7 days for the last few days. |
Unixchick Send message Joined: 5 Mar 12 Posts: 815 Credit: 2,361,516 RAC: 22 |
Will they send out one last wave of forced resends? I still have Validation inconclusive WUs that need a third wingman |
Stephen "Heretic" Send message Joined: 20 Sep 12 Posts: 5557 Credit: 192,787,363 RAC: 628 |
At this rate soon they will pass the Results out in the field too. LOL . . That was only because the resends were mostly being processed pretty much immediately. Stephen . . . |
Keith T. Send message Joined: 23 Aug 99 Posts: 962 Credit: 537,293 RAC: 9 |
Will they send out one last wave of forced resends? I still have Validation inconclusive WUs that need a third wingman I think at this stage, it might be more effective to Cancel unstarted Tasks for Workunits that are Already Validated. There are probably now more than 100,000 Tasks still In Progress that are not needed. This might help more quickly than just sending out more The ones In the field will probably be returned eventually, but they might be waiting for their Hosts to process unnecessary duplicates first ! |
Unixchick Send message Joined: 5 Mar 12 Posts: 815 Credit: 2,361,516 RAC: 22 |
Will they send out one last wave of forced resends? I still have Validation inconclusive WUs that need a third wingman That is an interesting idea. I manually went through my list of WUs and prioritized the ones that didn't already have a matching valid, but it was effort on my part. Most people don't do anything but let boinc run. I'm now just crunching WUs that already have matching valids. edit: secondary projects with shorter deadlines might also be delaying seti WUs |
Stephen "Heretic" Send message Joined: 20 Sep 12 Posts: 5557 Credit: 192,787,363 RAC: 628 |
That is an interesting idea. I manually went through my list of WUs and prioritized the ones that didn't already have a matching valid, but it was effort on my part. Most people don't do anything but let boinc run. I'm now just crunching WUs that already have matching valids. . . That is why I have my secondary project set to resource 0%. It mean there is very little waiting to run S@H work if any turns up. But since there is none that doesn't make much difference ... Stephen . . |
Jimbocous Send message Joined: 1 Apr 13 Posts: 1856 Credit: 268,616,081 RAC: 1,349 |
. . I recommend a Sci-Fi short story called 'The Marching Morons' by C.M.Kornbluth (also nicely subtle in the title 8-}) +1 Nice to see it's online now for free reading. |
Link Send message Joined: 18 Sep 03 Posts: 834 Credit: 1,807,369 RAC: 0 |
I'm now just crunching WUs that already have matching valids. I'd simply abort them, on point wasting time on them. I'd actually expect aborting such tasks by the server as part of "nice" shutdown, wasting other people's electricity and eventually slowing down science done by other BOINC projects by generating data for dev/nul isn't what I imagine as nice way to finish the project. But somehow I've expected it, so I didn't even try to cache many WUs, just finnished what I had and moved to Einstein, there are more than enough machines who can crunch ready what's left. Perhaps even too many and that leads to the current situation... |
Ville Saari Send message Joined: 30 Nov 00 Posts: 1158 Credit: 49,177,052 RAC: 82,530 |
Perhaps even too many and that leads to the current situation...The problem is that Boinc prefers handing any new tasks to those hosts that already have work. Hosts that have work do scheduler requests as often as the cooldown allows. Empty ones end up having several hour backoffs between requests. So the empty hosts that could return the results almost immediately never get them. |
Wild6-NJ Send message Joined: 4 Aug 99 Posts: 43 Credit: 100,336,791 RAC: 140 |
It's a dumbed down way to run boinc for the social media generation. One step towards the society depicted in the movie 'Idiocracy'. As time passes, Idiocracy is looking more like a documentary. [:o( |
tullio Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 8797 Credit: 2,930,782 RAC: 1 |
David Anderson has updated the list of the 100 top users. Most of them run Collatz, so the list does note reflect the real position of users, like me, who do not Collatz- But I am only a dumb user, those running Collatz are geniuses. Tullio |
Stephen "Heretic" Send message Joined: 20 Sep 12 Posts: 5557 Credit: 192,787,363 RAC: 628 |
The problem is that Boinc prefers handing any new tasks to those hosts that already have work. . . It isn't just that, I am running a batch file to hit the server at the minimum backoff period every time so NO prolonged backoffs, but I get ZERO resends. It is very much a lottery, a matter of hitting the server at just the right moment within windows that are/were very short. Some get lucky (Wiggo) and some don't (me). BTW, I bought that scratchie .. as expected nothing :( Your turn when you 'get into town' :) Stephen :) |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 36162 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
. . It isn't just that, I am running a batch file to hit the server at the minimum backoff period every time so NO prolonged backoffs, but I get ZERO resends.Now that may have been your problem Stephen as I was just letting it do its own thing. ;-) Cheers. |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13824 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
25 Pendings, 101 Inconclusives.April 23 22:21April 22 0:40 UTCApril 22 23:20 Grant Darwin NT |
Stephen "Heretic" Send message Joined: 20 Sep 12 Posts: 5557 Credit: 192,787,363 RAC: 628 |
. . It isn't just that, I am running a batch file to hit the server at the minimum backoff period every time so NO prolonged backoffs, but I get ZERO resends.Now that may have been your problem Stephen as I was just letting it do its own thing. ;-) . . But then as Ville says (or was it Siran), it simply stops polling for work when you have none to return. I was letting it do that but it was only polling a few times a day, it was ridiculous. . . Either way ... no work :( Stephen :( |
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