The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119)

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Message 2044476 - Posted: 13 Apr 2020, 9:11:53 UTC

The assimilation backlog is gone now.
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Message 2044473 - Posted: 13 Apr 2020, 8:04:28 UTC - in response to Message 2044472.  
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Well, in that case, Mark's news from Eric suggests it's worth getting the kicking boots out.

He's running
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Maybe one of them know how to get a message to him?
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Message 2044472 - Posted: 13 Apr 2020, 7:55:03 UTC - in response to Message 2044470.  

https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=8873201 still hasn't phoned home since 8 April: unless that spoofer gives his machine a kick, we'll never know whether the tasks are bunkered or ghosts.
The maximum number of tasks it can receive with the GPU count it is advertizing is 9750, so lot of those if not all are likely ghosts.
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Message 2044470 - Posted: 13 Apr 2020, 7:25:43 UTC - in response to Message 2044455.  

Eric says that they have been running with resends on about 1/3 of the time.
If things get tangled up, it gets turned back off and back on when things clear.
So, many ghost tasks should have already been resent.
Not sure how many are still out there.

Meow.
Unfortunately, in order to pick up a resend, the host in question has to contact the server and actively request work.

https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=8873201 still hasn't phoned home since 8 April: unless that spoofer gives his machine a kick, we'll never know whether the tasks are bunkered or ghosts.
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Message 2044469 - Posted: 13 Apr 2020, 6:42:40 UTC - in response to Message 2044465.  

Or they were correct at the times they were made.
The latter one was made less than an hour after the first one and referred to the 'last few hours', so the times were the same and there's no way for both of them to be correct.
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Message 2044465 - Posted: 13 Apr 2020, 5:22:45 UTC - in response to Message 2044464.  

. . A very long time since neither of the two listed machines seems to have returned any results since April Fool's Day.

https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=8652081&offset=52360&show_names=0&state=1&appid= is no longer a valid link, because the host has returned a few hundred results in the last few hours.
At least one of those claims must be bullshit as they contradict each other.
Or they were correct at the times they were made.
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Message 2044464 - Posted: 13 Apr 2020, 5:00:31 UTC - in response to Message 2044433.  

. . A very long time since neither of the two listed machines seems to have returned any results since April Fool's Day.

https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=8652081&offset=52360&show_names=0&state=1&appid= is no longer a valid link, because the host has returned a few hundred results in the last few hours.
At least one of those claims must be bullshit as they contradict each other. Try to get your facts right before blaming people.
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Message 2044458 - Posted: 13 Apr 2020, 2:22:56 UTC
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Results returned and awaiting validation	0	16,412	3,835,328	0m
Workunits waiting for validation	0	0	1	0m
Workunits waiting for assimilation	0	0	617,903	0m

Getting there.
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Message 2044455 - Posted: 13 Apr 2020, 1:23:19 UTC - in response to Message 2044366.  

Once the assimilators have catched up, they should reenable the ghost resending mechanism on the servers (the full version of it), the servers should now be able to handle that additional load.

I'll second that motion.

Meow!

Perhaps you can send a message to Eric like you did in the past (IIRC).

I shall ask him about it.

Meow!

Eric says that they have been running with resends on about 1/3 of the time.
If things get tangled up, it gets turned back off and back on when things clear.
So, many ghost tasks should have already been resent.
Not sure how many are still out there.

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Message 2044443 - Posted: 12 Apr 2020, 23:40:51 UTC

https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=8652081&offset=52360&show_names=0&state=1&appid= is no longer a valid link, because the host has returned a few hundred results in the last few hours.

If you edit the URL, and remove about a thousand from the Offset Value, you should get a valid link.
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Message 2044438 - Posted: 12 Apr 2020, 23:11:56 UTC - in response to Message 2044432.  

. . Something about pots, kettles and name calling right?

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Message 2044433 - Posted: 12 Apr 2020, 22:52:13 UTC - in response to Message 2044421.  

Well the owner of that machine is a very active poster in NC, including this thread, I wonder if he would like to comment on how long it will be before his"bunker" will be empty !


. . A very long time since neither of the two listed machines seems to have returned any results since April Fool's Day.

Stephen

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Message 2044432 - Posted: 12 Apr 2020, 22:48:52 UTC - in response to Message 2044418.  

It depends on "bunkering" hosts like this https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=8652081&offset=52360&show_names=0&state=1&appid=
Over 52K tasks in progress, with the oldest ones from 4th March !
My Android machine has 8 tasks pending, 7 of them are waiting on https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=8652081

Cut him some slack, he's busy telling everyone else what they're doing wrong.


. . Something about pots, kettles and name calling right?

Stephen
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Message 2044431 - Posted: 12 Apr 2020, 22:47:01 UTC - in response to Message 2044416.  

Let the cleanup commence on Monday afternoon.

For the cleanup to commence do we not require tasks to timeout and then be re-sent?


It depends on "bunkering" hosts like this https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=8652081&offset=52360&show_names=0&state=1&appid=

Over 52K tasks in progress, with the oldest ones from 4th March !
My Android machine has 8 tasks pending, 7 of them are waiting on https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=8652081


. . They do look remarkably similar in numbers .... :(

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Message 2044428 - Posted: 12 Apr 2020, 22:36:47 UTC
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I not wish to enter in discussion but there is a big difference from a:

Bukered host: The host is not actually crunching, just keep the WU in a limbo until the original host back to crunch it.
Spoofed Host: The host is actually crunching the WU and report as any other hosts. Like my host for example.

About the host in question, is not a bunkered host, it's crunches a lot of WU per day. BTW we could call as a well managed spoofed host, the user has total control of the deadlines and must finish all the work before the deadlines unless of course a hardware or software crash. So expect no resends from it.

The hosts who has problems are the ones who DL the WU and not return anything crunched, due the AV, bad configuration, turned off, etc. There are the hosts who are candidates to resends.

>edit> The link provided is wrong. This is the right link: https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=8652081
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Message 2044427 - Posted: 12 Apr 2020, 22:36:26 UTC - in response to Message 2044382.  
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God I really hate PowerShell.

while ($true)
 { Get-Content C:\ProgramData\BOINC\stdoutdae.txt | Select-String -Pattern "got [0-9]*.*new tasks"
 Start-Sleep -Seconds 10  }


Things are just more elegant in nix.
while :; do clear; grep "got [0-9]*.*new tasks" ~/BOINC\ Data/stdoutdae.txt; sleep 10; done

But I can cycle through all the machines in a screen session, and get the answers across the board.


. . Both are gobbledy gook to me ... :)

Stephen

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Message 2044424 - Posted: 12 Apr 2020, 22:27:08 UTC - in response to Message 2044421.  

Well the owner of that machine is a very active poster in NC, including this thread, I wonder if he would like to comment on how long it will be before his"bunker" will be empty !


The answer is the only one that matters

“Before the deadline”
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Message 2044422 - Posted: 12 Apr 2020, 22:14:10 UTC - in response to Message 2044416.  
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Let the cleanup commence on Monday afternoon.

For the cleanup to commence do we not require tasks to timeout and then be re-sent?


It depends on "bunkering" hosts like this https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=8652081&offset=52360&show_names=0&state=1&appid=

Over 52K tasks in progress, with the oldest ones from 4th March !
And as far as GPUs, 1337 reported via spoofing, only 1 actually installed. What a special guy.
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Message 2044421 - Posted: 12 Apr 2020, 22:14:02 UTC - in response to Message 2044419.  

Let the cleanup commence on Monday afternoon.

For the cleanup to commence do we not require tasks to timeout and then be re-sent?


It depends on "bunkering" hosts like this https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=8652081&offset=52360&show_names=0&state=1&appid=

Over 52K tasks in progress, with the oldest ones from 4th March !
My Android machine has 8 tasks pending, 7 of them are waiting on https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=8652081

I read what you are saying. For these to be re-sent though unless there is intervention from from admin staff tasks have to reach their expiry date don't they?


Well the owner of that machine is a very active poster in NC, including this thread, I wonder if he would like to comment on how long it will be before his"bunker" will be empty !
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Message 2044420 - Posted: 12 Apr 2020, 22:08:59 UTC - in response to Message 2044416.  

Let the cleanup commence on Monday afternoon.

For the cleanup to commence do we not require tasks to timeout and then be re-sent?
It depends on "bunkering" hosts like this https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=8652081&offset=52360&show_names=0&state=1&appid=

Over 52K tasks in progress, with the oldest ones from 4th March !
My Android machine has 8 tasks pending, 7 of them are waiting on https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=8652081
No wonder the servers were having kittens. :-O

Cheers.
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