Xeon Phi 7120P is it usable for S@H ?

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Message 2029161 - Posted: 25 Jan 2020, 10:45:45 UTC
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Hello,
The question as in header, I can get a Phi7120 cheaply.
Is it making any sens anyway, or better get more classic GPUs?
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Message 2029191 - Posted: 25 Jan 2020, 16:03:49 UTC - in response to Message 2029161.  

Nope. BOINC has no provisions for that kind of device as far as I’m aware.
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Message 2029204 - Posted: 25 Jan 2020, 18:06:03 UTC

Thanks for confirming what I thought,

Considerig this: https://www.servethehome.com/intel-xeon-phi-x200-knights-landing-boots-windows/
Boinc could run 256 of S@H tasks, well @1,3GHz would go slooooow.

One I can get is 7120 is former generation and even if somehow I could manage it, I presume energy costs per FLOP makes no sense.
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Message 2029206 - Posted: 25 Jan 2020, 18:14:25 UTC - in response to Message 2029204.  

Even if you got it recognized as 256 CPU cores, you still wouldn’t be able to run 256 concurrent jobs at SETI since the project here limits you to holding only 150 at a time.
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Message 2029223 - Posted: 25 Jan 2020, 20:39:09 UTC

It's obsolete these days.
https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/75799/intel-xeon-phi-coprocessor-7120p-16gb-1-238-ghz-61-core.html
Only 16G ram, 61 cores @ 1.2Ghz!

I think a 3700X is faster than that Phi board. 16 * 3800Mhz is around 60000 Mhz roughly the same and then you've got FPU enhancements and it's pipeline.

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Message 2029391 - Posted: 26 Jan 2020, 15:46:20 UTC

Obviously, after looking @ top machines setup, here at S@H the only conclusion is linux + nvidia.
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Message 2029398 - Posted: 26 Jan 2020, 16:26:10 UTC

Exactly, most bang 4 buck = Nvidia 1660TI or Super. Uefi Motherboard is required because all those new GPUs require UEFI support in bios to get detected properly.

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Message 2029455 - Posted: 26 Jan 2020, 23:20:01 UTC
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Thank's for info on uefi. Is my current Lenovo C30 double Xeon v2 machine suitable for them?
Another question is, if my current Quadro P2000 GPUs would work better under linux?
If so I think I will convert this host to linux.
I found info of End of life for Intel Phi products, so that's why prices are diving.
Anyway it would be an intersting experiment to run Boinc on Phi 72xx Knights Landing which suport AVX512.
Ommm.. BTW is S@H code using AVX2 or AVX512?
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Message 2029459 - Posted: 26 Jan 2020, 23:32:47 UTC

Many have tried to get those things working here since they were 1st introduced, but none have succeeded.

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Message 2029460 - Posted: 26 Jan 2020, 23:37:59 UTC - in response to Message 2029455.  

SETI does not take advantage of AVX2 or AVX512. An AVX2 app exists, but it’s just the same code recompiled for AVX2. It doesn’t run any faster than the AVX app.

Your nvidia cards will run better on Linux providing that you use the Special CUDA application. No problem with Xeon E5 v2 chips. That’s what I like to use.
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Message 2029462 - Posted: 26 Jan 2020, 23:43:46 UTC
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Good news, Thanks!
But I'm still realy amazed that Phi could not be harnessed for Seti… of cource it's energy inefficient regarding todays hardware achivements but theoreticly schould work as shown in the link I've cited previously, Cinebanch run on Phi just right off the box.
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Message 2029465 - Posted: 26 Jan 2020, 23:45:36 UTC - in response to Message 2029455.  

For what it seems there seems to be a UEFI bios, but not fully compliant. Could work though.
Quadro P2000 seems to be a Cuda 6.1 so it would work better in Linux. Run TBars all_in_one package aswell and your system should fly!

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Message 2029468 - Posted: 26 Jan 2020, 23:55:19 UTC - in response to Message 2029465.  

For what it seems there seems to be a UEFI bios, but not fully compliant. Could work though.
Quadro P2000 seems to be a Cuda 6.1 so it would work better in Linux. Run TBars all_in_one package aswell and your system should fly!

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