all I am getting on 2 of three computers

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Miklos M. Send message Joined: 5 May 99 Posts: 955 Credit: 136,115,648 RAC: 73	Message 2025579 - Posted: 30 Dec 2019, 15:33:32 UTC Mon 30 Dec 2019 10:28:24 AM EST \| SETI@home \| update requested by user Mon 30 Dec 2019 10:28:24 AM EST \| SETI@home \| sched RPC pending: Requested by user Mon 30 Dec 2019 10:28:24 AM EST \| SETI@home \| [sched_op] Starting scheduler request Mon 30 Dec 2019 10:28:24 AM EST \| SETI@home \| Sending scheduler request: Requested by user. Mon 30 Dec 2019 10:28:24 AM EST \| SETI@home \| Not requesting tasks: don't need (CPU: ; NVIDIA GPU: not highest priority project) Mon 30 Dec 2019 10:28:24 AM EST \| SETI@home \| [sched_op] CPU work request: 0.00 seconds; 0.00 devices Mon 30 Dec 2019 10:28:24 AM EST \| SETI@home \| [sched_op] NVIDIA GPU work request: 0.00 seconds; 0.00 devices Mon 30 Dec 2019 10:28:24 AM EST \| SETI@home \| update requested by user Mon 30 Dec 2019 10:28:26 AM EST \| SETI@home \| Scheduler request completed Mon 30 Dec 2019 10:28:26 AM EST \| SETI@home \| [sched_op] Server version 709 Mon 30 Dec 2019 10:28:26 AM EST \| SETI@home \| Project requested delay of 303 seconds Mon 30 Dec 2019 10:28:26 AM EST \| SETI@home \| [sched_op] Deferring communication for 00:05:03 Mon 30 Dec 2019 10:28:26 AM EST \| SETI@home \| [sched_op] Reason: requested by project What should I do? Thank you ID: 2025579 ·

JohnDK Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 28 May 00 Posts: 1222 Credit: 451,243,443 RAC: 1,127	Message 2025580 - Posted: 30 Dec 2019, 16:00:53 UTC - in response to Message 2025579. Mon 30 Dec 2019 10:28:24 AM EST \| SETI@home \| update requested by user Mon 30 Dec 2019 10:28:24 AM EST \| SETI@home \| sched RPC pending: Requested by user Mon 30 Dec 2019 10:28:24 AM EST \| SETI@home \| [sched_op] Starting scheduler request Mon 30 Dec 2019 10:28:24 AM EST \| SETI@home \| Sending scheduler request: Requested by user. Mon 30 Dec 2019 10:28:24 AM EST \| SETI@home \| Not requesting tasks: don't need (CPU: ; NVIDIA GPU: not highest priority project) Mon 30 Dec 2019 10:28:24 AM EST \| SETI@home \| [sched_op] CPU work request: 0.00 seconds; 0.00 devices Mon 30 Dec 2019 10:28:24 AM EST \| SETI@home \| [sched_op] NVIDIA GPU work request: 0.00 seconds; 0.00 devices Mon 30 Dec 2019 10:28:24 AM EST \| SETI@home \| update requested by user Mon 30 Dec 2019 10:28:26 AM EST \| SETI@home \| Scheduler request completed Mon 30 Dec 2019 10:28:26 AM EST \| SETI@home \| [sched_op] Server version 709 Mon 30 Dec 2019 10:28:26 AM EST \| SETI@home \| Project requested delay of 303 seconds Mon 30 Dec 2019 10:28:26 AM EST \| SETI@home \| [sched_op] Deferring communication for 00:05:03 Mon 30 Dec 2019 10:28:26 AM EST \| SETI@home \| [sched_op] Reason: requested by project What should I do? Thank you Do you run more projects than SETI? If you need more work for SETI then select NNT for the other project(s). On laptop I run CPU only with SETI and WCG, I only get work for SETI and have to choose NNT for SETI to get any WCG work. ID: 2025580 ·

rob smith Volunteer moderator Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22456 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380	Message 2025592 - Posted: 30 Dec 2019, 17:37:38 UTC You get the message the John has highlighted when a project is not the highest priority and other projects have filled your cache. The way the scheduler works when you have multiple projects is a form of "deficit accounting". If BOINC detects (thinks) that one project has fallen behind its expected allocation then it gets more work that those which are in credit. To make things more complex some projects are very bad at using the tools to estimate (guess) how much each project has done, thus they tend to get much more than their fair share of your efforts. Confused? - Probably..... What can be done? - Look at the "resource share" for all you projects and scale them in order of your level of importance. Remember the scale is 0 to 1000 (yes, zero to one thousand and not a percentage) and this applies to each project. Set your highest priority project to 1000, set the next one to a lower number, say 250 and so on down. Any projects you want as pure reserves, for when the others aren't giving out work, set to Zero. It will take some time (days or weeks) to get the balance right, particularly that Rosetta is one of your projects, and that project is, in my experience, one of the worst behave around when it comes to sending out excessive amounts of work with significant under estimates of the run-time (and so boosting their share of the cache) Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? ID: 2025592 ·

Tom M Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 28 Nov 02 Posts: 5126 Credit: 276,046,078 RAC: 462	Message 2025633 - Posted: 30 Dec 2019, 23:33:27 UTC For what is worth you can make World Community Grid play nicely with Seti@Home by limiting the # of downloads per project under "Custom" on the Website. Then if you limit the WCG tasks to the maximum you are will to run (say 30%-40% of your available cpu threads you can usually get a stable mix without tinkering with the NNT. Tom A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association). ID: 2025633 ·

JohnDK Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 28 May 00 Posts: 1222 Credit: 451,243,443 RAC: 1,127	Message 2026016 - Posted: 2 Jan 2020, 22:29:35 UTC Tom M, thanks for the tip, works great. ID: 2026016 ·

Miklos M. Send message Joined: 5 May 99 Posts: 955 Credit: 136,115,648 RAC: 73	Message 2026038 - Posted: 3 Jan 2020, 0:20:50 UTC Thu 02 Jan 2020 07:18:03 PM EST \| SETI@home \| sched RPC pending: Requested by user Thu 02 Jan 2020 07:18:03 PM EST \| SETI@home \| [sched_op] Starting scheduler request Thu 02 Jan 2020 07:18:03 PM EST \| SETI@home \| Sending scheduler request: Requested by user. Thu 02 Jan 2020 07:18:03 PM EST \| SETI@home \| Not requesting tasks: don't need (CPU: ; NVIDIA GPU: not highest priority project) Thu 02 Jan 2020 07:18:03 PM EST \| SETI@home \| [sched_op] CPU work request: 0.00 seconds; 0.00 devices Thu 02 Jan 2020 07:18:03 PM EST \| SETI@home \| [sched_op] NVIDIA GPU work request: 0.00 seconds; 0.00 devices Someone kindly helped me and said what step to take to correct the above problem. Could I get that advice again please. Thank you ID: 2026038 ·

rob smith Volunteer moderator Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22456 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380	Message 2026102 - Posted: 3 Jan 2020, 7:29:08 UTC Answer the following questions, don't jump to answers without answering them: What other projects are you running? What are the "resource shares" for all your projects? Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? ID: 2026102 ·

Miklos M. Send message Joined: 5 May 99 Posts: 955 Credit: 136,115,648 RAC: 73	Message 2026782 - Posted: 8 Jan 2020, 10:00:11 UTC - in response to Message 2026102. PrimeGrid and Collatz. But SETI is set for higher priority on all machines. ID: 2026782 ·

rob smith Volunteer moderator Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22456 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380	Message 2026783 - Posted: 8 Jan 2020, 10:10:39 UTC OK, but what are the resource shares - if they are too close together it can be very difficult to get things balanced the way you want them. To see what the resource share is go to the "advanced" view in the BOINC GUI, then the "projects" tab and there is a column entitled "resource share". Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? ID: 2026783 ·

Miklos M. Send message Joined: 5 May 99 Posts: 955 Credit: 136,115,648 RAC: 73	Message 2026790 - Posted: 8 Jan 2020, 10:59:09 UTC I am receiving tasks for only two of the four computers. Anyone knows why? Thanks ID: 2026790 ·

Miklos M. Send message Joined: 5 May 99 Posts: 955 Credit: 136,115,648 RAC: 73	Message 2026798 - Posted: 8 Jan 2020, 12:07:47 UTC Only one is not yet receiving any work. ID: 2026798 ·

Miklos M. Send message Joined: 5 May 99 Posts: 955 Credit: 136,115,648 RAC: 73	Message 2026801 - Posted: 8 Jan 2020, 12:14:46 UTC - in response to Message 2026798. Wed 08 Jan 2020 07:13:46 AM EST \| SETI@home \| Requesting new tasks for NVIDIA GPU Wed 08 Jan 2020 07:13:46 AM EST \| SETI@home \| [sched_op] CPU work request: 0.00 seconds; 0.00 devices Wed 08 Jan 2020 07:13:46 AM EST \| SETI@home \| [sched_op] NVIDIA GPU work request: 1198863.26 seconds; 3.00 devices Wed 08 Jan 2020 07:13:47 AM EST \| SETI@home \| Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks Wed 08 Jan 2020 07:13:47 AM EST \| SETI@home \| [sched_op] Server version 709 Wed 08 Jan 2020 07:13:47 AM EST \| SETI@home \| Not sending work - last request too recent: 159 sec Wed 08 Jan 2020 07:13:47 AM EST \| SETI@home \| Project requested delay of 303 seconds Wed 08 Jan 2020 07:13:47 AM EST \| SETI@home \| [sched_op] Deferring communication for 00:05:03 Wed 08 Jan 2020 07:13:47 AM EST \| SETI@home \| [sched_op] Reason: requested by project ID: 2026801 ·

Richard Haselgrove Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14674 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874	Message 2026802 - Posted: 8 Jan 2020, 12:22:48 UTC - in response to Message 2026801. Last modified: 8 Jan 2020, 12:23:09 UTC last request too recent: 159 sec Project requested delay of 303 seconds You have to wait the full 303 seconds (5 minutes 3 seconds) between updates. ID: 2026802 ·

Miklos M. Send message Joined: 5 May 99 Posts: 955 Credit: 136,115,648 RAC: 73	Message 2026803 - Posted: 8 Jan 2020, 12:51:57 UTC - in response to Message 2026802. Richard, this computer had been waiting many hours this morning. ID: 2026803 ·

Miklos M. Send message Joined: 5 May 99 Posts: 955 Credit: 136,115,648 RAC: 73	Message 2026804 - Posted: 8 Jan 2020, 12:54:26 UTC Same message as before and same result: no work. Wed 08 Jan 2020 07:52:39 AM EST \| SETI@home \| update requested by user Wed 08 Jan 2020 07:52:42 AM EST \| SETI@home \| sched RPC pending: Requested by user Wed 08 Jan 2020 07:52:42 AM EST \| SETI@home \| [sched_op] Starting scheduler request Wed 08 Jan 2020 07:52:42 AM EST \| SETI@home \| Sending scheduler request: Requested by user. Wed 08 Jan 2020 07:52:42 AM EST \| SETI@home \| Not requesting tasks: don't need (CPU: job cache full; NVIDIA GPU: not highest priority project) Wed 08 Jan 2020 07:52:42 AM EST \| SETI@home \| [sched_op] CPU work request: 0.00 seconds; 0.00 devices Wed 08 Jan 2020 07:52:42 AM EST \| SETI@home \| [sched_op] NVIDIA GPU work request: 0.00 seconds; 0.00 devices Wed 08 Jan 2020 07:52:44 AM EST \| SETI@home \| Scheduler request completed Wed 08 Jan 2020 07:52:44 AM EST \| SETI@home \| [sched_op] Server version 709 Wed 08 Jan 2020 07:52:44 AM EST \| SETI@home \| Project requested delay of 303 seconds Wed 08 Jan 2020 07:52:44 AM EST \| SETI@home \| [sched_op] Deferring communication for 00:05:03 Wed 08 Jan 2020 07:52:44 AM EST \| SETI@home \| [sched_op] Reason: requested by project ID: 2026804 ·

Richard Haselgrove Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14674 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874	Message 2026805 - Posted: 8 Jan 2020, 13:15:51 UTC - in response to Message 2026804. Yes, I get that too. But read the whole log in context: 06-Jan-2020 19:50:59 [SETI@home] Sending scheduler request: To report completed tasks. 06-Jan-2020 19:50:59 [SETI@home] Reporting 12 completed tasks 06-Jan-2020 19:50:59 [SETI@home] Not requesting tasks: don't need (CPU: ; NVIDIA GPU: not highest priority project; Intel GPU: ) 06-Jan-2020 20:05:04 [GPUGRID] Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. 06-Jan-2020 20:05:04 [GPUGRID] Requesting new tasks for NVIDIA GPU 06-Jan-2020 20:05:04 [GPUGRID] [sched_op] CPU work request: 0.00 seconds; 0.00 devices 06-Jan-2020 20:05:04 [GPUGRID] [sched_op] NVIDIA GPU work request: 4287.42 seconds; 0.00 devices 06-Jan-2020 20:05:04 [GPUGRID] [sched_op] Intel GPU work request: 0.00 seconds; 0.00 devices 06-Jan-2020 20:05:05 [GPUGRID] Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks 06-Jan-2020 20:05:05 [GPUGRID] [sched_op] Server version 613 06-Jan-2020 20:05:05 [GPUGRID] No tasks sent 06-Jan-2020 20:05:05 [GPUGRID] No tasks are available for New version of ACEMD 06-Jan-2020 20:05:10 [SETI@home] Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. 06-Jan-2020 20:05:10 [SETI@home] Reporting 4 completed tasks 06-Jan-2020 20:05:10 [SETI@home] Requesting new tasks for NVIDIA GPU At 19:50, SETI needed to report completed tasks, but didn't yet need to fetch new work. It was in the 'additional work' phase, with more than the minimum cache level. By 20:05, it did need more work, but asked the highest-priority project first. With no work available from GPUGrid, it fetched more work from the second-priority project. ID: 2026805 ·

Miklos M. Send message Joined: 5 May 99 Posts: 955 Credit: 136,115,648 RAC: 73	Message 2026814 - Posted: 8 Jan 2020, 13:53:44 UTC - in response to Message 2026805. Richard, I am confused. This computer never ran GPUGrid, at all. And SETI is designated as the highest priority at 200%, the others are at 100. ID: 2026814 ·

rob smith Volunteer moderator Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22456 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380	Message 2026816 - Posted: 8 Jan 2020, 14:05:04 UTC Last modified: 8 Jan 2020, 14:05:40 UTC Miklos - you already have a thread running on your problems with getting work, and have not answered the question about the resource share, or what other projects are being run on the affected computers. Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? ID: 2026816 ·

Richard Haselgrove Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14674 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874	Message 2026827 - Posted: 8 Jan 2020, 14:52:51 UTC - in response to Message 2026814. Richard, I am confused. This computer never ran GPUGrid, at all. And SETI is designated as the highest priority at 200%, the others are at 100. The sample came from my machine, to illustrate the point. I run GPUGrid. Your 200, 100 figures are neither percentages nor priorities - they are resource shares. Even a project with a resource share of 1 will eventually reach the top of the priority list, and get its turn in the limelight. My GPUGrid reaches, and stays at, the top of the priority list, because the project hasn't issued much work recently and SETI has been overworked. You probably have your own secondary project in that situation. But Rob is right - this isn't a server issue. Please continue this discussion in a separate thread - we have bigger issues to discuss here. ID: 2026827 ·

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