The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (118)

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Message 2024700 - Posted: 23 Dec 2019, 19:41:03 UTC

Given that the majority of this issue seems to effect only Anonymous platforms, I have to wonder who besides SETI actually supports the Anonymous platform in production? Not trying to excuse the clearly malfunctioning or non-existent change control system, since there really is no excuse. Just curious.
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Message 2024701 - Posted: 23 Dec 2019, 19:44:53 UTC - in response to Message 2024700.  

BOINC as a whole "supports" it, and has done since the very beginning. But SETI probably "exploits" it more than any other public project that we know about. We - and BOINC - have no idea how many private projects exploit it, because we don't even know how many private projects exist.
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Message 2024703 - Posted: 23 Dec 2019, 19:55:29 UTC - in response to Message 2024701.  

BOINC seems to be very allowing when you want to do your own thing. I mean someone had the foresight to create the <dont_check_file_sizes> flag seemingly just to allow people to do what they want. And I'm glad they did for instances like this. It basically lets you run anonymous platform when not under anonymous platform lol.
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Message 2024707 - Posted: 23 Dec 2019, 20:03:30 UTC

Both my hosts have stalled downloads now...
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Message 2024723 - Posted: 23 Dec 2019, 21:20:48 UTC

If I had the knowledge I would have done it already and made a new windows app, then gone back to watching the clouds again.
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Message 2024728 - Posted: 23 Dec 2019, 21:44:09 UTC
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I'm shooting down my host until the issue where corrected. Hope soon.

For those who celebrate i wish a Merry Christmas.
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Message 2024733 - Posted: 23 Dec 2019, 22:26:00 UTC

. . On the one machine I changed to stock (renamed app_info.xml) I received a good number of tasks over several hours, but since implementing the AnonPlat workaround, while crunching is AOK, I have not received a single new task.

. . I think that roll back is essential ........

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Message 2024741 - Posted: 23 Dec 2019, 22:57:27 UTC

There have been so many posts on this SETI problem that I may have missed an answer to the following question.
Does the staff at Berkeley think a resolution might come soon, or might it take more than a week?
From reading the posts, I believe that is the question for which everyone really needs an answer.
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Message 2024742 - Posted: 23 Dec 2019, 23:03:41 UTC - in response to Message 2024741.  

There have been so many posts on this SETI problem that I may have missed an answer to the following question.
Does the staff at Berkeley think a resolution might come soon, or might it take more than a week?
From reading the posts, I believe that is the question for which everyone really needs an answer.

I believe this is the best answer available for your question: https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=84983&postid=2024655
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Message 2024745 - Posted: 23 Dec 2019, 23:23:04 UTC - in response to Message 2024742.  

Muchas gracias Juan.
That is exactly what I was looking for.
To save time for everyone who hasn't seen it, I will reprint Richard Hasselgrove's earlier post:

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Posted: 23 Dec 2019, 16:55:49 UTC

For general information

I've had a provisional whisper back from the project. As of about an hour ago, the provisional plan is to go through normal maintenance and backup tomorrow (Tuesday), and then revert the database changes so we can go back to running the old server code.

My gloss on that is that it probably means a longer outage, and an even worse than usual recovery, but everyone should be able to enjoy the rest of the holiday in peace. Most especially, the staff can relax. Sounds like a good idea to me.
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Posted: 23 Dec 2019, 16:55:49 UTC

For general information

I've had a provisional whisper back from the project. As of about an hour ago, the provisional plan is to go through normal maintenance and backup tomorrow (Tuesday), and then revert the database changes so we can go back to running the old server code.

My gloss on that is that it probably means a longer outage, and an even worse than usual recovery, but everyone should be able to enjoy the rest of the holiday in peace. Most especially, the staff can relax. Sounds like a good idea to me.
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p.s. Thank you, Richard!
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Message 2024756 - Posted: 24 Dec 2019, 0:54:31 UTC - in response to Message 2024655.  
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For general information

I've had a provisional whisper back from the project. As of about an hour ago, the provisional plan is to go through normal maintenance and backup tomorrow (Tuesday), and then revert the database changes so we can go back to running the old server code.

My gloss on that is that it probably means a longer outage, and an even worse than usual recovery, but everyone should be able to enjoy the rest of the holiday in peace. Most especially, the staff can relax. Sounds like a good idea to me.

This sounds great. I wish them all the best with reverting to an earlier version of the server code.
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Message 2024757 - Posted: 24 Dec 2019, 1:05:02 UTC - in response to Message 2024756.  

For general information

I've had a provisional whisper back from the project. As of about an hour ago, the provisional plan is to go through normal maintenance and backup tomorrow (Tuesday), and then revert the database changes so we can go back to running the old server code.

My gloss on that is that it probably means a longer outage, and an even worse than usual recovery, but everyone should be able to enjoy the rest of the holiday in peace. Most especially, the staff can relax. Sounds like a good idea to me.

This sounds great. I wish them all the best with reverting to an earlier version of the server code. Hope what Eric said below isn't true
Message 2024312 - Posted: 22 Dec 2019, 8:10:05 UTC (Old 117 thread)
Unfortunately there a database change that renders the 7.09 server inoperable. :(

Hence the statement "revert the database"...
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Message 2024758 - Posted: 24 Dec 2019, 1:18:16 UTC - in response to Message 2024757.  

For general information

I've had a provisional whisper back from the project. As of about an hour ago, the provisional plan is to go through normal maintenance and backup tomorrow (Tuesday), and then revert the database changes so we can go back to running the old server code.

My gloss on that is that it probably means a longer outage, and an even worse than usual recovery, but everyone should be able to enjoy the rest of the holiday in peace. Most especially, the staff can relax. Sounds like a good idea to me.

This sounds great. I wish them all the best with reverting to an earlier version of the server code. Hope what Eric said below isn't true
Message 2024312 - Posted: 22 Dec 2019, 8:10:05 UTC (Old 117 thread)
Unfortunately there a database change that renders the 7.09 server inoperable. :(

Hence the statement "revert the database"...

Thanks for that I change to my original post
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Message 2024759 - Posted: 24 Dec 2019, 1:20:27 UTC - in response to Message 2024757.  

Hence the statement "revert the database"...

Or more aptly:

Reverse the polarity of the neutron flow?

;-)

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Message 2024760 - Posted: 24 Dec 2019, 1:23:05 UTC
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Another problem shared from BETA, some of these Host detail numbers have been frozen all day. Namely the APR numbers.
SETI@home v8 8.11 x86_64-apple-darwin (cuda42_mac)
Number of tasks completed 135
Max tasks per day 156
Number of tasks today 2873
Consecutive valid tasks 54
Average processing rate 1,740.18 GFLOPS

SETI@home v8 8.19 x86_64-apple-darwin (opencl_nvidia_mac_old)
Number of tasks completed 139
Max tasks per day 52
Number of tasks today 2000
Consecutive valid tasks 2
Average processing rate 1,768.32 GFLOPS

By this time, the cuda42 numbers should be quite a bit higher, but, they haven't changed.
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Message 2024761 - Posted: 24 Dec 2019, 1:34:26 UTC - in response to Message 2024745.  

Muchas gracias Juan.
That is exactly what I was looking for.
To save time for everyone who hasn't seen it, I will reprint Richard Hasselgrove's earlier post:

____________________________________________________________________________________
Posted: 23 Dec 2019, 16:55:49 UTC

For general information

I've had a provisional whisper back from the project. As of about an hour ago, the provisional plan is to go through normal maintenance and backup tomorrow (Tuesday), and then revert the database changes so we can go back to running the old server code.

My gloss on that is that it probably means a longer outage, and an even worse than usual recovery, but everyone should be able to enjoy the rest of the holiday in peace. Most especially, the staff can relax. Sounds like a good idea to me.
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Posted: 23 Dec 2019, 16:55:49 UTC

For general information

I've had a provisional whisper back from the project. As of about an hour ago, the provisional plan is to go through normal maintenance and backup tomorrow (Tuesday), and then revert the database changes so we can go back to running the old server code.

My gloss on that is that it probably means a longer outage, and an even worse than usual recovery, but everyone should be able to enjoy the rest of the holiday in peace. Most especially, the staff can relax. Sounds like a good idea to me.
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p.s. Thank you, Richard!


My wishes with you!

p.s.
After another call to Santa I can verify with the the following:
I'm going to replace some GPUs and it seems so I can have time to tune them up too.

Nightey Nightey! [nati nati]
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"You can't always get what you want / but if you try sometimes you just might find / you get what you need." -- Rolling Stones
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Message 2024768 - Posted: 24 Dec 2019, 2:34:19 UTC - in response to Message 2024761.  

My wishes with you!
p.s.
After another call to Santa I can verify with the the following:
I'm going to replace some GPUs and it seems so I can have time to tune them up too.
Nightey Nightey! [nati nati]

. . Can I have the discards ? ? :) . {joke}

. . Merry Christmas Petri!

Stephen

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Message 2024771 - Posted: 24 Dec 2019, 3:32:49 UTC

Hi All

I haven't been very active the last couple of years or so, I thought I might fire up a box or two now that SAH has had the time to fix the software/server/WU availability issues that had been plaguing them...
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Message 2024772 - Posted: 24 Dec 2019, 3:33:11 UTC

After some interruptions and getting a couple of jobs done outside before that so called rain gets here (if it even bothers to turn up at all) I've just finished cleaning out all the dust, ash and soot from the last 3 months out of my 2500K rig as well as updating it so it's ready for when things come back up properly.

I'll do the other in the morning as it's getting far too warm here now and my back needs a rest while I need to enjoy a few beers. ;-)

Cheers.
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Message 2024773 - Posted: 24 Dec 2019, 3:34:52 UTC

Uhh, don't know where you read that the project was back to normal. It is not. Won't be until after tomorrow's outage/backup/recovery. (Fingers crossed.)
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