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Message 2051316 - Posted: 7 Jun 2020, 15:41:32 UTC - in response to Message 2051308.  

... As a “Black Lives Matter” protest moved through Boston, rioters defaced the Shaw 54th Regiment Memorial which was dedicated to African American soldiers who fought to end slavery in the Civil War...

By true protestors, or by anti-protestors infiltrators?

Or just random uneducated hoodlums?

Is there also some malicious actor at play to 'exploit' the unrest to send the USA back to the old Wild West?


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Message 2051317 - Posted: 7 Jun 2020, 16:04:22 UTC

Years ago, when I lived in London, I knew a couple of police officers. One night we were discussing the latest round of street disturbances. Over a period of a couple of weeks they arrested a fair number of people involved - the same people. OK, but what got them was that some of those people were arrested first time from the midst of "one side of the debate", then a couple of weeks later "on the other side of the debate". After their first arrest they appeared in court were fined, second time around this was their second offence and so their cases got moved to a higher court where the fines were much more substantial with the prospect of a jail term as an "added bonus".
Yes "rent a thugs" did exist, and probably still do exist, and these thugs aren't interested in the politics of the side they are "fighting for" just so long as someone else pays their bail/fines (it's far harder to get someone else to do one's prison time....).
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Message 2051323 - Posted: 7 Jun 2020, 18:09:50 UTC - in response to Message 2051306.  

Another 9gag* filthy lie. A reverse image search finds many copies of the bottom photo, none of the top. A news search for the vandalism finds a story about plywood being defaced which had been put in place much before the protest so work could be done. Then there is a photo of a the real monument. Nothing at all like the top.

Why does the right have to make up filthy lies to attempt to get their point across?

*yes, found the original upload to 9gag.
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Message 2051324 - Posted: 7 Jun 2020, 18:24:54 UTC - in response to Message 2051323.  
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Another 9gag* filthy lie. A reverse image search finds many copies of the bottom photo, none of the top. A news search for the vandalism finds a story about plywood being defaced which had been put in place much before the protest so work could be done. Then there is a photo of a the real monument. Nothing at all like the top.

Why does the right have to make up filthy lies to attempt to get their point across?

*yes, found the original upload to 9gag.

Thanks greatly for finding that.

So... Yet more hate-stirring propaganda being peddled.

The link shows the source report to be from "iotwreport", as was renamed from the brazenly named "iOwnTheWorld" and as rated as a 'fellow buddy' by americanthinker.com. All for a distasteful deadly game of 'Fake News'?


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Message 2051325 - Posted: 7 Jun 2020, 18:26:53 UTC - in response to Message 2051323.  

Another 9gag* filthy lie. A reverse image search finds many copies of the bottom photo, none of the top. A news search for the vandalism finds a story about plywood being defaced which had been put in place much before the protest so work could be done. Then there is a photo of a the real monument. Nothing at all like the top.

Why does the right have to make up filthy lies to attempt to get their point across?

*yes, found the original upload to 9gag.

Because they find the truth to be inconvenient. The truth unifies which goes against their strategy of divide and conquer.
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Message 2051328 - Posted: 7 Jun 2020, 19:13:41 UTC

Kind Donald has achieved his greatest victory ever!
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/06/us/politics/trump-biden-republicans-voters.html
Former President George W. Bush and Senator Mitt Romney won’t support Mr. Trump’s re-election. Colin Powell will vote for Joe Biden, and other G.O.P. officials may do the same.

He has fractured the GOP and there is infighting.
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Message 2051331 - Posted: 7 Jun 2020, 19:52:22 UTC - in response to Message 2051329.  

But this still doesn't excuse their defacing of Monuments..

Yep. Monuments should be left intact.


Yep. Monuments should be left intact. NOT!
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Message 2051333 - Posted: 7 Jun 2020, 20:21:19 UTC

The more important question is in "Why?".

The test now is in how people and especially public figures respond, and how they will hopefully positively speak out.


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Message 2051334 - Posted: 7 Jun 2020, 20:27:26 UTC

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Message 2051347 - Posted: 7 Jun 2020, 22:03:08 UTC

The Kalabalik in the US...
Kalabalik , originally a Turkish word which means: confusion, great disorder, crowd, rush, congestion . Stormy noise or behavior, riot. Actually a word still used in Swedish since the 18th century in the Great Nordic War.
Well there were kalabaliks last weekend in Stockholm. Today it was Gothenburg.
Why? "Black Lifes Matter". But I thought every lives matter no matter of color...
I don't think Trump is a racist really but he sure doesn't do anything to stop riots from people that are racists.
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Message 2051360 - Posted: 7 Jun 2020, 23:22:01 UTC

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Message 2051366 - Posted: 8 Jun 2020, 0:18:03 UTC - in response to Message 2051359.  
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Why didn't the Democrat politicians and the Democrat Media continually condemn the Left Wing mob's murdering, looting and burning down innocent peoples property?
Could it because those people who are murdering, looting and burning down innocent peoples property are not left wing or right wing politically at all? Of course they aren't. They are hooligans not knowing what politics means and having "fun" on the streets anyway. They don't know what left or right wing means and don't care what so ever. It was scary to see from Gothenburg today were rioters smiling and laughing when they throw stones at the police from what was a very peacefully demonstration in the beginning. The demonstration only allowed 50 people to participate because of the Corona virus. About 2,000 came so the police had to separate the crowd later in the afternoon. And the rioters (the very few) got upset of course...
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Message 2051367 - Posted: 8 Jun 2020, 0:36:25 UTC - in response to Message 2051363.  

It is private property the unwashed masses don't get to tell the property owner what to do, unless you don't believe in private property.
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Message 2051380 - Posted: 8 Jun 2020, 4:30:27 UTC

A kettle & a colour springs to mind.
President Trump responded by calling Mr Powell "highly overrated".
Trump drifted away from constitution
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Message 2051387 - Posted: 8 Jun 2020, 8:43:51 UTC

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Message 2051411 - Posted: 8 Jun 2020, 15:46:20 UTC - in response to Message 2051405.  
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Edited to add: Unfortunately, Powell is 83 years old and probably too old to serve a full term as President.

But, if he did run. I would still vote FOR him and hopefully a good Vice President to replace him, if necessary. And not Blabbering Biden nor Disgusting Donald.

You might as well vote for 'Blabbering Biden' and hope for a good Vice President to replace him shortly after inauguration. I would consider this job quite life-shortening for a 78 year old, since I suspect Biden would not be content with golfing and Twitter. 7 days a week 12+ hours stress, meetings, and travel...
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Message 2051413 - Posted: 8 Jun 2020, 17:21:11 UTC - in response to Message 2051400.  
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The belief in Private Property and Individual Freedom's. Is what protects us from the mass murdering and enslaving Radical's.
... and the majority vote, which makes it more difficult for radicals to conquer mandates compared to proportional voting.

But if Trump wins again, he'll likely only get the majority of the electorate, not the majority of the votes. But shouldn't his voters, this time with the knowledge of his political views, be seen as radicals?
There is, for example, a Senator Murkowski in Alaska. Unfortunately, she is neither radical nor a Trump believer, which is why Trump announced a campaign to sweep her out. In such a climate, belief in private property and individual freedom alone do not help to resist radicalization. Truth, decency, transparency are required. Votes must be based on facts and voters must not be blinded by dubious campaigns (I call it propaganda). The press used to do this. But if e.g. a New York Times is regularly (unpunished) accused by DT of spreading fake news, while Fox News is praised for telling the truth... What percentage of voters then still base their vote on rational facts rather than propaganda? The Democrats' anti-propaganda is honest? No?
Voters shouldn't be caught between Scilla and Charybdis. ... maybe an honorable, credible opponent can be found somewhere, acceptable for followers of Dems and Reps...
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Message 2051417 - Posted: 8 Jun 2020, 17:56:14 UTC

And 40 years later the same is still true............



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Message 2051425 - Posted: 8 Jun 2020, 20:43:48 UTC - in response to Message 2051423.  

"Oh god, if Biden gets into office it'll be such a huge cluster f*** too. He's the worst candidate the democrat's could've come up with."


As this is the third iteration of this observation... any reasons why he's so bad?
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