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消息 2050527 - 发表于:28 May 2020, 21:28:09 UTC

Trump signs order that could punish social media companies for how they police content, drawing criticism and doubts of legality

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/05/28/trump-social-media-executive-order/
Methinks the supreme court will get to see this one.
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The President is prevented from 'shutting down' Twitter or Farcebook or any other discussion forum BY the 1st Amendment(Government cannot limit or stop freedom of expression). Unfortunately that Amendment only applies to Government limitations and does NOT prohibit those same forums from limiting or stopping Conservative speech and freedom of expression. And therein lies the great inequity...........and the fake news both outright and by omission.

In the USA. Private, non Governmental organizations, have this right. Unless one wishes for Government Authority to make these decisions for private enterprises.

Does anyone really want a Bozo Biden type or a Disgusting Donald type having this authority?

Yes, this applies to both sides.

I have NO problem with these forums being placed in the same category as the lame stream media. Remove the liability exemption and make them accountable for what they allow to be published on their sites. Fact checking IS a two way street...........

Since Freedom of the Press and Freedom of Speech are usually paramount.

Let's be very, very careful in what authority to give to your political enemy's to control YOUR speech, YOUR Social Media Company and the Media YOU like.

Remember: Never give the type of Power to your friends that you wouldn't want your enemies to have,
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The President is prevented from 'shutting down' Twitter or Farcebook or any other discussion forum BY the 1st Amendment(Government cannot limit or stop freedom of expression). Unfortunately that Amendment only applies to Government limitations and does NOT prohibit those same forums from limiting or stopping Conservative speech and freedom of expression. And therein lies the great inequity...........and the fake news both outright and by omission.

In the USA. Private, non Governmental organizations, have this right. Unless one wishes for Government Authority to make these decisions for private enterprises.

Does anyone really want a Bozo Biden type or a Disgusting Donald type having this authority?

Yes, this applies to both sides.

I have NO problem with these forums being placed in the same category as the lame stream media. Remove the liability exemption and make them accountable for what they allow to be published on their sites. Fact checking IS a two way street...........

If you remove the liability exemption add a minimum billion dollar insurance requirement to operate a web site, because after all hate speech can cause a lot of damage in a very short time.
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The President is prevented from 'shutting down' Twitter or Farcebook or any other discussion forum BY the 1st Amendment(Government cannot limit or stop freedom of expression). Unfortunately that Amendment only applies to Government limitations and does NOT prohibit those same forums from limiting or stopping Conservative speech and freedom of expression. And therein lies the great inequity...........and the fake news both outright and by omission.

In the USA. Private, non Governmental organizations, have this right. Unless one wishes for Government Authority to make these decisions for private enterprises.

Does anyone really want a Bozo Biden type or a Disgusting Donald type having this authority?

Yes, this applies to both sides.

I have NO problem with these forums being placed in the same category as the lame stream media. Remove the liability exemption and make them accountable for what they allow to be published on their sites. Fact checking IS a two way street...........

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The President is prevented from 'shutting down' Twitter or Farcebook or any other discussion forum BY the 1st Amendment(Government cannot limit or stop freedom of expression). Unfortunately that Amendment only applies to Government limitations and does NOT prohibit those same forums from limiting or stopping Conservative speech and freedom of expression. And therein lies the great inequity...........and the fake news both outright and by omission.

In the USA. Private, non Governmental organizations, have this right. Unless one wishes for Government Authority to make these decisions for private enterprises.

Does anyone really want a Bozo Biden type or a Disgusting Donald type having this authority?

Yes, this applies to both sides.
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消息 2050484 - 发表于:28 May 2020, 3:45:33 UTC - 回复消息 2050481.  

Like most of Trump's threats this one is a non event. He is living in an alternate universe.
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消息 2050481 - 发表于:28 May 2020, 2:03:52 UTC - 回复消息 2050460.  

The President is prevented from 'shutting down' Twitter or Farcebook or any other discussion forum BY the 1st Amendment(Government cannot limit or stop freedom of expression). Unfortunately that Amendment only applies to Government limitations and does NOT prohibit those same forums from limiting or stopping Conservative speech and freedom of expression. And therein lies the great inequity...........and the fake news both outright and by omission.

4chan
8chan
8kun
Endchan
7chan
Dreamchan
reddit
Gab
safe space
Parler
Voat
Infogalactic
WeSearchr?
The Daily Stormer
Plenty of places for the alt-right to post. 99.9% of which can't be linked because of the rules at the left.

What the issue is, only a tiny fraction of the world thinks the same as the alt-right, so none of these dozens of sites has any viral action. They fail. Never mind no one wants to advertise on them because of their message and tiny viewership.

What ever King Donald comes up with will also blast these out of the water.

Mark my words, he will issue some kind of executive claptrap than will violate the constitution, if for no other reason than to make twitter spend money on lawyers! Yes, King Donald is petty.

PS, News is news, opinion is like an a-hole, everyone has one and it spews ____
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NOT prohibit those same forums from limiting or stopping Conservative speech and freedom of expression. And therein lies the great inequity...........and the fake news both outright and by omission.

Ah so you argue private property is unfair? After all those forums are private property!
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The threat came after Twitter added fact-check links to his tweets for the first time.
Well it's about bloody time, but they should've done that ages ago, as he's the greatest source of fake news around.
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The President is prevented from 'shutting down' Twitter or Farcebook or any other discussion forum BY the 1st Amendment(Government cannot limit or stop freedom of expression). Unfortunately that Amendment only applies to Government limitations and does NOT prohibit those same forums from limiting or stopping Conservative speech and freedom of expression. And therein lies the great inequity...........and the fake news both outright and by omission.

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消息 2050449 - 发表于:27 May 2020, 16:33:38 UTC

Trump's view of freedom of speach?...

See for yourself:

Trump threatens to shut down social media companies
wrote:
President Trump has taken the extraordinary step of threatening to close down social media platforms.

The threat came after Twitter added fact-check links to his tweets for the first time...



Also note how Trump-esq Fake News kills people...

All only in the USA?


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Sometimes I think Trump even will try to sue the American voters if he doesn't win...
Make book on it.
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And now v2.0 has come up with a new fake hoax.
Trump sees a ‘rigged election’ ahead. Democrats see a constitutional crisis in the making.
Well they do reckon that old Donny is delusional.
Well Trump is really something.
Sometimes I think Trump even will try to sue the American voters if he doesn't win...
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Will the real v2.0 stand up?

A tale of two Trumps.

While instead of being in church v2.0 was on the golf course.

Trump spends Memorial Day weekend golfing and insulting female politicians.

And now v2.0 has come up with a new fake hoax.

Trump sees a ‘rigged election’ ahead. Democrats see a constitutional crisis in the making.

Well they do reckon that old Donny is delusional.
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消息 2050255 - 发表于:24 May 2020, 17:30:01 UTC

Has the system in the USA really descended into a corrupted choice of which one of wealthy senile puppets?


Not descended into, it has been a corrupt game of wealth and power since the 3rd Administration. All politics, by the very nature of the game, is a corrupt system. No different in any country.

The game of politics rewards the winner not the moral.

Wealth = Power = More Power.

People(citizens), who want(ed) to break that cycle were and are the base of support for Trump, whether he is the correct figurehead or not is moot. Both sides of entrenchment in DC (Democrat and GOP) view him as the enemy of their entrenchment and their created legislative fiefdoms.

There is a growing support for term limits and when(if) the sheeple finally begin to think for themselves they will realize that by simply voting against ALL incumbent candidates term limits are a reality in fact if not law.

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The feminist and BAME movements have a phrase for that:

Male, Pale, Stale
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What is really disappointing is to see such a Hobson's choice for a President...

Has the system in the USA really descended into a corrupted choice of which one of wealthy senile puppets?


Only in the USA?
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Remember "Bill" Clinton. Who became President after receiving only 43% of the nationwide popular vote in 1992.


This isn't applicable, as Bill Clinton did win the popular vote with 44,909,889 to George H.W. Bush's 39,104,550. It wasn't half or more of all voters, but the issue with the Electoral College isn't this, but simply that the candidate with the most votes doesn't necessarily win.

The last three presidents to lose the popular vote but still win the presidency through the Electoral College are Donald Trump (2016), George W. Bush (2000) and then we have to go all the way back to Benjamin Harrison (1888).

Winning a larger minority of a vote. Doesn't mean winning the majority of the popular vote.

I find interesting that Republican Bush and Democrat/Republican supporting Capitalist Ross Perot, together received over 50% of the popular vote.

If we had a Parliamentary System of Government. Where the Government, many times, is a coalition of Party's.

Ross Perot, not the voter's for the Republican or Democrat candidate, would have decided if Bush or Clinton would be President.
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