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Message 2024030 - Posted: 21 Dec 2019, 6:14:42 UTC

“If the articles are not transmitted, Trump could legitimately say he wasn’t truly impeached at all.”



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Message 2023909 - Posted: 20 Dec 2019, 18:34:06 UTC

Noah R. Feldman, a Professor of Law at Harvard Law School, who also served as a Democrat-called impeachment witness, says:

"The House must actually send the articles and send managers to the Senate to prosecute the impeachment. And the Senate must actually hold a trial,”

“If the House does not communicate its impeachment to the Senate, it hasn’t actually impeached the president,” he continued. “If the articles are not transmitted, Trump could legitimately say he wasn’t truly impeached at all.”
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Message 2023869 - Posted: 20 Dec 2019, 14:48:21 UTC - in response to Message 2023863.  

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Message 2023863 - Posted: 20 Dec 2019, 13:20:07 UTC

As Paul Harvey used to say..."And now, the REST of the story".......

Franklin Graham
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My Response to Christianity Today:

Christianity Today released an editorial stating that President Trump should be removed from office—and they invoked my father’s name (I suppose to try to bring legitimacy to their statements), so I feel it is important for me to respond. Yes, my father Billy Graham founded Christianity Today; but no, he would not agree with their opinion piece. In fact, he would be very disappointed. I have not previously shared who my father voted for in the past election, but because of this article, I feel it is necessary to share it now. My father knew Donald Trump, he believed in Donald Trump, and he voted for Donald Trump. He believed that Donald J. Trump was the man for this hour in history for our nation.

For Christianity Today to side with the Democrat Party in a totally partisan attack on the President of the United States is unfathomable. Christianity Today failed to acknowledge that not one single Republican voted with the Democrats to impeach the President. I know a number of Republicans in Congress, and many of them are strong Christians. If the President were guilty of what the Democrats claimed, these Republicans would have joined with the Democrats to impeach him. But the Democrats were not even unanimous—two voted against impeachment and one voted present. This impeachment was politically motivated, 100% partisan. Why would Christianity Today choose to take the side of the Democrat left whose only goal is to discredit and smear the name of a sitting president? They want readers to believe the Democrat leadership rather than believe the President of the United States.

Look at all the President has accomplished in a very short time. The economy of our nation is the strongest it has been in 50 years, ISIS & the caliphate have been defeated, and the President has renegotiated trade deals to benefit all Americans. The list of accomplishments is long, but for me as a Christian, the fact that he is the most pro-life president in modern history is extremely important—and Christianity Today wants us to ignore that, to say it doesn’t count? The President has been a staunch defender of religious freedom at home and around the world—and Christianity Today wants us to ignore that? Also the President has appointed conservative judges in record number—and Christianity today wants us to ignore that? Christianity Today feels he should be removed from office because of false accusations that the President emphatically denies.

Christianity Today said it’s time to call a spade a spade. The spade is this—Christianity Today has been used by the left for their political agenda. It’s obvious that Christianity Today has moved to the left and is representing the elitist liberal wing of evangelicalism.

Is President Trump guilty of sin? Of course he is, as were all past presidents and as each one of us are, including myself. Therefore, let’s pray for the President as he continues to lead the affairs of our nation.


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Message 2023847 - Posted: 20 Dec 2019, 8:56:07 UTC - in response to Message 2023843.  

Is this supposed to be Politics here, Nick

Yes it is, and the First states "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..." and Jefferson said in 1802
Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between Church & State. Adhering to this expression of the supreme will of the nation in behalf of the rights of conscience, I shall see with sincere satisfaction the progress of those sentiments which tend to restore to man all his natural rights, convinced he has no natural right in opposition to his social duties."


But the religious groups will insist in sticking there noses in and tell their followers, who generally know no better, who to vote for. Look at any poll that breaks down the opinions into groups such as age, income, education level etc and you will see a breakdown for religion. And up until now the Evangelical leaders, have plastered over Trumps sins and told their flock to vote for him.

Pastors pray for Trump - Fox News

At last one Evangelical group, previously led by the one religious leader whose name was known outside the US, has called in the link I gave, for Trump to be removed from office.

I don't like religions, but if there is one thing they should do is give moral and ethical guidance. If they were to stick to that, then maybe, with a lot of luck, serial sinners and criminals would be kept out of office.
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Message 2023843 - Posted: 20 Dec 2019, 7:36:20 UTC - in response to Message 2023842.  
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Is this supposed to be Politics here, Nick, or should it still rather be science?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_the_United_States

Here not any Nitpickr for only just pricking either, but rather that it could be still only ways and means, when just only Politics for the same.

Only just name calling at times, and next not any "Calling your name" for only stations, because we always know how it should be.

The House of Representatives could still be only the legislative branch of Government here, and please correct me if I am wrong,
when only making it Impeachment here, next for that of a process which could be carried out.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment

Any "tit for tat" when next only such a thing, and perhaps not any such either, when only the legislative part versus the judicial,
which could make for any legal prosecution possible, when also impeachment could be found to be valid.

Any legal, for also possible, and next also an act for such when only being carried out, because perhaps not any misdemeanor either,
but rather more serious, if next found to be true, for only a reasonable ground.

So here choosing to make it body as well, when perhaps still only part of government for such a thing, when it also could be their respective branches.

Just scratching the surface, and next this could be true, for only such a thing happening, when still not any judicial process either.

Any legal makes it just illegal when only the opposite, and still we have to prove, for only it needing Proof, when only such a thing.

Bring a case for the Courts, when next also the documents being carried in your hand, and you could be proving guilt versus innocence
for only the sake of Freedom, if only just needed.

"So, Hillary, will you just marry me", and next it became Bill Clinton for just saying so, except also him being impeached for the affair he could be carrying out.

Here not any swearing either, but rather "I have not" for only just a simple meaning, when also an expression.

Any shining perhaps, and it only could be hair for such, except not any lustrous you could make it, but at least only an affair here.

Solemny swear, and still perhaps the Bible you could be carrying in your hand, for not any Oath you could be making either,
but here making it that of Inauguration earlier on, which should be part of an Office, for only just duties, and for that, also common sense.
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Message 2023842 - Posted: 20 Dec 2019, 6:57:25 UTC
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Christianity Today Trump Should Be Removed from Office
In our founding documents, Billy Graham explains that Christianity Today will help evangelical Christians interpret the news in a manner that reflects their faith. The impeachment of Donald Trump is a significant event in the story of our republic. It requires comment.

“Whether Mr. Trump should be removed from office by the Senate or by popular vote next election — that is a matter of prudential judgment,” the editorial said. “That he should be removed, we believe, is not a matter of partisan loyalties but loyalty to the Creator of the Ten Commandments.”

Galli, who will retire from the magazine Jan. 3, wrote that the facts leading to Wednesday’s impeachment of Trump are unambiguous.

“The president of the United States attempted to use his political power to coerce a foreign leader to harass and discredit one of the president’s political opponents," he wrote. "That is not only a violation of the Constitution; more importantly, it is profoundly immoral.”

But the editorial didn’t just call out Trump. It called out his devout Christian supporters.

"To the many evangelicals who continue to support Mr. Trump in spite of his blackened moral record, we might say this: Remember who you are and whom you serve,” Galli wrote. “Consider how your justification of Mr. Trump influences your witness to your Lord and Savior.”
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Message 2023832 - Posted: 20 Dec 2019, 5:48:50 UTC

except that sometimes people could be just mean.

Being 'mean' has become a part of everyday American life......

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Message 2023826 - Posted: 20 Dec 2019, 4:33:20 UTC - in response to Message 2023825.  

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Message 2023825 - Posted: 20 Dec 2019, 4:24:15 UTC

New York Times
By Katie Benner and Julian E. Barnes
Dec. 19, 2019
Updated 8:10 p.m. ET
Durham Is Scrutinizing Ex-C.I.A. Director’s Role in Russian Interference Findings
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/19/us/politics/durham-john-brennan-cia.html?searchResultPosition=1
Mr. Durham’s pursuit of Mr. Brennan’s records is certain to add to accusations that Mr. Trump is using the Justice Department to go after his perceived enemies. The president has long attacked Mr. Brennan as part of his narrative about a so-called deep state cabal of Obama administration officials who tried to sabotage his campaign, and Mr. Trump has held out Mr. Durham’s investigation as a potential avenue for proving those claims.

Typical NYT P.O.V. .........wonder what they'll say when it's indictment time?
The slugs and worms are starting to squirm in DC as the swamp water gets lower. Better Lawyer up boys.....Barr is not playing games like Schiff and Nadler, he has all his wits, not 'half'.

It's also obvious to anyone who's honest with themselves that Pelosi's hesitation in sending a totally partisan Impeachment finding to the Senate is she's playing for time........the Dims are hoping for a sudden Christmas Miracle of a 'smoking gun' in this farce of a charge without a crime.

A quick vote without discussion is all this circus deserves putting a fitting end to three years of Dimwit efforts to reverse the will of The People in the 2016 election............

The difference between Jeffery Epstein and the Democrat Party is that Epstein didn't kill himself..........2020's coming and the Dims will be going.

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Message 2023815 - Posted: 20 Dec 2019, 1:48:32 UTC - in response to Message 2023778.  
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So are Memes a form of "successful critical commentary"?

Since the Memes referred to are worded Meme commentary. They are the same as non Meme worded commentary in this topic.

Therefore, are those posting Meme commentary and those posting just worded commentary, both example's of "successful critical commentary"?

That would depend upon one's belief regarding the specific commentary's.
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Message 2023753 - Posted: 19 Dec 2019, 19:37:11 UTC

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Message 2023751 - Posted: 19 Dec 2019, 19:20:11 UTC - in response to Message 2023747.  

Yep, methinks it will take 6 hrs.

I suppose the scribes can work that fast ...
all depends on what is being used. WP = 6 hrs. Paper=12 months. Stone tablets=10 years. :-)
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Message 2023747 - Posted: 19 Dec 2019, 19:05:44 UTC - in response to Message 2023745.  

Yep, methinks it will take 6 hrs.

I suppose the scribes can work that fast ...
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Message 2023745 - Posted: 19 Dec 2019, 19:02:10 UTC - in response to Message 2023739.  

Yep, methinks it will take 6 hrs.
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Message 2023669 - Posted: 19 Dec 2019, 5:36:29 UTC

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Message 2023644 - Posted: 19 Dec 2019, 2:27:30 UTC
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Swedish comments.
- The process of impeachment itself takes place in the Senate, where Republicans are in the majority. The likelihood of Donald Trump conviction there is almost nonexistent. The process, or the trial that you might call it, takes place at the beginning of next year and can last from two weeks to two months, says Carina Bergfeldt.
Nevertheless, the Democrats think it is worth the process.
- Partly because they feel that Trump is guilty and partly because their own voters want it, says Carina Bergfeldt and also says that the former presidents being impeached did not react as strongly.
- President Trump has direct contact with his constituents in a completely different way than the previous presidents who have been in the same situation and he uses it in every way he can, she says.
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