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ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21403 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
And for this one... Add air circulation filters, or let people continue to suffer coughing and spluttering? See what you think?... Inhaled metal Tube dust can enter bloodstream... wrote: The air in London's Tube network is polluted with metallic particles small enough to enter the human bloodstream... Note that this is an ongoing story from many years ago... Stay safe folks! Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22606 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
Since the aquarium had been in place for a few years I would add fatigue failure to your list. Or just "blame the cleaner" and claim on the insurance...... Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24921 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Note that this is an ongoing story from many years ago...That's the understatement of the century. |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19456 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Note that this is an ongoing story from many years ago...That's the understatement of the century. Which century? |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24921 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Take your pick, you have a choice of 3. All equally applicable. |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21403 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Here in the real world... Unfortunately, the mother of one of my friends fell over a few days ago. She was bruised but nothing broken and hopefully not concussed, but was taken to hospital to get checked. ... Whereupon, she was found to need a longer recovery although nothing life threatening. SO... We have our hospitals here very badly overstretched with patients held in tents outside in the car park and on trolleys in the corridors... So, there was a big pressure to move here on as soon as possible to anywhere else... That "anywhere else" was out to a private care home for a short term stay. ... Which is a whole different world of "care only for profit" (pun deliberately designed in there). So... The procedure is that there is a care package of tick boxes 'agreed upon' and the care staff there are ruthlessly programmed only to do whatever it is that is paid for. She's deteriorating. Slightly improved care was given on the day my friend visited and stayed the day to see for himself what the 'tick boxes' meant in reality. However, there is no feedback possible and the individual staff are programmed on a per 'tick box' basis. Unfortunately, there is no flexibility "in the (profitable) system" for any variation of care as needs may change and as human desires may change. The 'tick boxes' are also overly specific and limited. He's over there again today to work through the bureaucracy and get things moving before she completely seizes up to never be able to leave the place... We've cynically joked that the 'tick boxes' have been deliberately designed to ensure the 'clients' remain forever quietly entrapped to maximize profits for minimum care, and their well-being be damned... Here's hoping for a positive update tonight... Stay healthy folks! Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31076 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
We've cynically joked that the 'tick boxes' have been deliberately designed to ensure the 'clients' remain forever quietly entrapped to maximize profits for minimum care, and their well-being be damned...The legally binding fiduciary duty to the shareholder to maximize profit. |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21403 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
This is the clearest summary that I've seen for what should never have been a problem: The Largest Airline Meltdown in Aviation History! 29 Dec 2022 wrote: Over 15,000 flights cancelled by one airline (as of 29 Dec 2022)... How could the CEO and the Management and the bean counters get that so very badly wrong? There are an awful lot of badly abused people from all that... All for the sake of short term greed? And sustainability and workforce and passengers, all be damned??... Fly safe through that?... Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22606 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
It's a horribly convoluted trail that led to this event. Under investment in their crew and aircraft management system. A scheduling philosophy assumed that everything would run every day of the week. No crew going off sick, no crew delayed by traffic, no aircraft having a problem that prevented them from flying on time, weather prefect. Aided by the highly convoluted routing of crews and aircraft, and local staff not being allowed to say "We've got a plane that's ready (but it's the wrong one) and we've got a crew kicking their heals in the crew room (but it's the wrong one), and we've got a slot available in one hour to xxxxx". All in all a system that looks like one that looks to fail whenever a butterfly flaps its wings at the wrong speed. What happened? Crew members were off sick (injuries and illness), crews couldn't get to their start airport, real extreme weather. Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21403 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
My reading of the story suggests that the final trigger was abusive Management causing the walkout of 200 ground handlers that then toppled the remaining dominoes to then have all the aircraft grounded. All highly suggestive of isolated Management in plush offices pushing spreadsheets rather than actually being involved in the operations and being connected with the people that actually make things work... No surprise at the impossible outcome where noone wins. Fly safely elsewhere folks! Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31076 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Wonder if the software developer charged by the maximum number of disruption events a day was possible? Management picked 200 because it is a reasonable number 98% of the time and when they had many less flights a day. At 201 all hell breaks lose for the reasons Juan Browne pointed out. Very same thing happens in long haul trucking in the USA. Multiple different hours on the clock timers but in trucking it is just on the driver, not maintenance inspections on the truck that take a day to complete. While Juan pointed out the calculation involved, it isn't getting a go/no go that is hard, it is finding a combination of moving parts that is a go that is hard and having them arrive together at the same "right" time. Now no one has mentioned seniority and route preference in this. I don't know if that is a factor, but for some airlines it will be. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24921 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
It's a runaway freight train that is going to take a lot of effort to stop. Many of us in the logistics trade saw this coming back in 2001. NO ONE listened to us. All we got told was that we was talking out of our rear ends. That runaway has already ploughed through our trucking industry & is now ploughing through our bus system. Just wondering what's next. BTW Happy New Year. |
Dr Who Fan Send message Joined: 8 Jan 01 Posts: 3373 Credit: 715,342 RAC: 4 |
The bean counters (manglement) can't see their noses because of the rose colored glasses they all wear. Manglement refuse to listen to the daily workers when working conditions are pushed to extreme levels, expecting them to work like robots. Best summary: The almighty $$$ to the bottom line is all that's important to bean counters. |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21403 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Don't look too deep into an "extinction event" for the sake of 'Developing' new profits?... Political tensions rise over Teesside crab deaths wrote: When thousands of crabs began washing up dead off Teesside and North Yorkshire's beaches in October 2021, it was a tragedy for the local fishing industry, and the environment. The really stupid aspect is that pyridine poisoning is well known, just as is lead poisoning and arsenic poisoning in water, and the pollution is well known to be a consequence of the industries there spewing out into the River Tees for decades. (Very glad to have turned down a job at one of those plants up there many years ago... Far too polluted... So much so it stripped the paint off cars...) ... So why not the obvious fix of testing for pyridine before dredging? Or at the very least, treating the silt before dumping?... Or is all that too much of an 'inconvenience' for the operators?... All on our only one planet, Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21403 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
No surprises here: Tesla faked self-driving demo, Autopilot engineer testifies wrote: Allegations that Tesla staged a 2016 video demonstrating full self driving have resurfaced,... What regulations?... Stay safe folks! Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31076 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
What regulations?...Same as TDI diesel? |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21403 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Don't look too deep into an "extinction event" for the sake of 'Developing' new profits?... In response, this looks to me like a desk-based fishing trip to dredge up any/all excuses possible: Shellfish deaths possibly caused by new disease - report wrote: A disease or parasite new to UK waters may have caused the deaths of thousands of shellfish along the North East and North Yorkshire coast, a report said. To me, that sounds and smells like a total cover-up. How conveniently convenient? Don't look too deeply?? All on our only one planet, Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 37167 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
How the rich avoid paying for their due by offloading their liabilities. Koch gets $2.5 billion in dividends from unit that offloaded asbestos liability. Industrial conglomerate Koch Industries received nearly $2.5 billion in dividend payments last year from its Georgia-Pacific unit, which had spun off a subsidiary that took on its liability from asbestos litigation and then filed bankruptcy to limit lawsuit payouts, according to documents filed in a U.S. bankruptcy court in North Carolina.Some changes are required to stop these greedy acts from happening. |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21403 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Scary and deadly: NTSB Preliminary Report Ramp Agent Fatality 31 Dec 2022 Montgomery Al. Incredible... Multiple times over incredible. To-the-minute deadlines and ruthlessly tracked performance targets and overly ruthless management have turned the airport ramp people into automated droids?... So much so that one person was driven into walking into a powered up jet engine!??? Time and profit and the safety of people be damned...? Fly safely folks! Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21403 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
... To me, that sounds and smells like a total cover-up. Will this uncover the reality? Shellfish deaths: Environment, Food and Rural Affairs Committee calls for investigation wrote: Further investigations must be carried out into the deaths of thousands of shellfish off the North East and North Yorkshire coast, a committee has said. Here's hoping that coverup has been blown soon enough! All on our only one planet, Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
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