More technical problems for Boeing

Duh! You had me going on that one!

LOL.
Well, you did ask me to title links correctly.

Well it does help a lot Sirius instead of all the 1-3 word misconceptions. ;-)

But other than that, what are the odds that the bookies are giving on it coming back down in a fiery heap? :-D

Cheers.

Petter the Mentour Pilot wonder will the MAX fly again?!
"Yeah, I am so tired of it" says his dog Molly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQ1DseELk-I

Two good comments on YouTube for the imminent Boeing 737 Max production stop:


Boeing halt Max8 production - The TRUTH - Prof Simon

Why are Boeing halting their 737 Max 8 production line from Jan 2020?

Prof Simon has an opinion...


Boeing stops production of the Boeing 737MAX! - Mentour Pilot

... How will this affect Boeing and the rest of the Aviation Industry and why is it happening NOW?...

Further detail on the Boeing 737 Max production stop:


Boeing to Temporarily Shut Down 737 Max Production

Halting production of the plane will most likely hurt parts suppliers and could have a broader effect on the American economy...

... This new model of its workhorse 737 was begun under pressure in 2011 as the company sought to fend off competition from its European rival, Airbus. But after the two crashes, prosecutors, regulators and two congressional committees are investigating whether Boeing overlooked safety risks and played down the need for pilot training in its effort to design, produce and certify the plane as quickly as possible...

... It will try to manage the disruption to suppliers, though it did not give details...

... The process of delivering the Max jets it has already built but not delivered will take at least a year, and reducing the backlog would simplify that process. It would also reduce the time the newly built planes sit idle. But the task of delivering its growing backlog was made more complicated last month, when the F.A.A. took control of issuing certificates of airworthiness for each airplane. That decision means Boeing won’t be able to deliver planes as quickly as it had hoped...

... “Even so, at some point, Boeing — even with its financial resources — has to stop the cash bleeding.”

At the very moment Boeing announced it was ceasing production of its most important product, the company took steps to meet Wall Street’s expectations. As it announced the shutdown on Monday, it sent a simultaneous news release announcing a regular quarterly dividend for shareholders.



Boeing Hearing Puts Heat on F.A.A. Chief Over Max Crisis

The agency found that without government action, the plane was likely to crash 15 times over the 45 years that it was expected to fly ... potentially killing more than 2,900 people...

... “Despite its own calculations, the F.A.A. rolled the dice on the safety of the traveling public and let the plane continue to fly,”...



Boeing's Production Pause Will Not End 737 Max Cash Burn: Analysts

Boeing Co is expected to continue burning cash despite pausing production of its 737 MAX jet, as it will leave its workforce intact and likely provide support to suppliers, analysts said.

Some estimated the cash burn at around $1 billion a month...

... "Assuming the delay stretches through March, we calculate total concessions of $11.7 billion,"...



For my personal view from that little summary, the killer comment in all that is?...

"As [Boeing] announced the shutdown on Monday, it sent a simultaneous news release announcing a regular quarterly dividend for shareholders."



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I think that France has got the right attitude to greedy bosses:

Former France Télécom bosses given jail terms over workplace bullying

Just in, NYT - Boeing Fires C.E.O. Dennis Muilenburg

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Now on BBC https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-50893490

Just in, NYT - Boeing Fires C.E.O. Dennis Muilenburg

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Now on BBC https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-50893490

Why now and why after oh so long?

Any coincidence with the rebuke from the FAA about the recertification date? Or for the production shutdown? Or for the lost orders? Or for the Starliner timer foulup?

And what of his co-conspirators?...

All just a simple case of scapegoating?


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... That apart it joins a very long list of first-flight failures in space.

This is Rocket Science after all...

Careful now...

Fly safe!

(If you're going to click one of those links, you really should be clicking both in sequence ;-) Enjoy!)



Here's hoping the rest of the Boeing systems fully sensibly work,

So the rest of the detoured mission ran good and they safely brought the Starliner back down to earth for a clean if somewhat early landing. Shame the ISS misses out on supplies and Christmas presents:


Starliner: Boeing, Boeing... it's back! Borked capsule makes a successful return to Earth

Boeing's borked capsule, the CST-100 Starliner, successfully returned to Earth yesterday while engineers scrambled to work out what went wrong, and managers rushed to justify the truncated mission...

... A borked Mission Elapsed Timer meant the spacecraft thought it was further ahead in the mission than it actually was, and Starliner burnt through its attitude control fuel before getting anywhere near the International Space Station (ISS).

In a briefing following the landing, Boeing's Jim Chilton revealed just how far out of whack the clock had got - 11 hours. Exactly how this happened remains unclear...


11 hour timing error

The launch countdown was due to start 7:16pm EST Thursday and the launch was 6:36am EST Friday. Approx 11 hours, and I can't believe that was just a coincidence.

You read it here first.


This isn't Boeing very well... Faulty timer knackers Starliner cargo capsule on its way to International Space Station

What a clock-up...



So... Really? Boeing relied upon a single-point-of-failure simple timer to sequence when to fire the orbit insertion burn?!... All with no checks??!...


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IMO the Starliner had a very successful test, after all why they test is to find bugs and all systems worked as designed but one and it's failure was relatively trivial.

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IMO the Starliner had a very successful test, after all why they test is to find bugs and all systems worked as designed but one and it's failure was relatively trivial.

Indeed so, except...

• They missed the biggie of testing a successful docking (and delivering the supplies);
  
  
• And for such a 'trivial' but critical 'oversight' to creep in unawares suggests one or both of sloppy design and/or sloppy procedures.
  
  
• And where were the 'double-checking' checks to catch such a trivial 'oversight'?...
  

This is rocket-science and supposedly there isn't such sloppiness for such things.

Unless?...


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Spin it anyway you want, Boeing learned a lot and it looks like they are near their goal.

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Have we had the postmortem yet?
1) Did someone forget to do a documented step?
2) Did someone forget to document a needed step?
3) What? it isn't local time but UTC?
or an actual trouble issue
4) Was there a some kind of communications failure that didn't start the timer.
a) ULA issue
b) Integration
c) Boeing

In Japan it is considered honourable to fall on one's own sword, but less so when someone else forces you onto it.
It's a fairly "easy" task to sort out a company board, but a far bigger task to sort out a company culture.

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A simple UTC/local time mix-up does not explain the ELEVEN hour error on that clock, basically someone got it very wrong. There must (should) have been lots of chances to check and correct that clock during pre-launch testing, so what was skimped?

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A simple UTC/local time mix-up does not explain the ELEVEN hour error on that clock, basically someone got it very wrong. There must (should) have been lots of chances to check and correct that clock during pre-launch testing, so what was skimped?

One has to wonder, Atlas V countdown is near eleven hours. Did Boeing grab the clock value from the Atlas clock from countdown start and not T-0? (The capsule grabs the clock setting from the Atlas, obviously the Atlas clock was correct.)

Can the Boeing bean counters creatively dodge a third crash?...

Boeing stock heading for crash? Charts show cash crunch as demand nosedives



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Next we'll see investors suing Boeing for loss of income.....

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Next we'll see investors suing Boeing for loss of income.....

And the U.S. manufacturing end will shrink even further than what it has already.

Creatively compromising margins for (safe?) flight:


Boeing Facts - Black lines on the wings



Really reassuring?...

I've hit merely ground mist whilst coming in to land a beautifully clean light aircraft. Just the sub-mm layer of water condensation on the wings shortened my touchdown so much that I was worried I'd f'ed the flare for a graceful landing...

3mm of frost and ice from cold soaked wings is very suspicious...

Also very convenient to ignore cold soaked ice for the sake of avoiding delays and costs...


Do other than Boeing Market this operating requirements 'relaxation' 'trick'?...

And really, fly to within 3 deg C of the fuel freezing, assuming complete precision for the fuel fraction/type and completely no water mixed in there?...


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And really, fly to within 3 deg C of the fuel freezing, assuming complete precision for the fuel fraction/type and completely no water mixed in there?...

Contaminated deice in the fuel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKxgne1J2pU

BTW the fuel lines have heaters on big birds, not the tanks for obvious reasons. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TWA_Flight_800

I've hit merely ground mist whilst coming in to land a beautifully clean light aircraft. Just the sub-mm layer of water condensation on the wings shortened my touchdown so much that I was worried I'd f'ed the flare for a graceful landing...

Leading edge is the critical part of the wing surface, that's why the deice boots are put there.

Your ground school did cover basic areonautics didn't it?
https://www.skybrary.aero/index.php/Rime_ice

And really, fly to within 3 deg C of the fuel freezing, assuming complete precision for the fuel fraction/type and completely no water mixed in there?...

3deg is a long way outside the error on the sensors, which are typically better than 0.1C - so in the worst case you have a 2.9C safety margin.
Water is a pain, but there are water sensors in the fuel system, and the levels at which they trigger alarms are (now) lower than that which would cause the fuel to thicken. And that's a very different problem to the ice on the surface of the wing. (Ask my brother, he was a witness to BA flight BA38's crash at Heathrow when ice in the fuel stopped both engines on finals and the plane landed short of the runway.)

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