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Message 2004268 - Posted: 25 Jul 2019, 22:06:19 UTC

Hi all,

I been watching my validation pending que and it has been increase since I started the project. At the present time I am over 1,700 work units in the pending state. The work units go back to June 25, 2019.

I started June 24 2019. Is this normal to take so long for validation? If not is there any I can do to help the process along?

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Message 2004270 - Posted: 25 Jul 2019, 22:21:08 UTC

It's normal and you still have another month to go before your numbers will settle down.

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Message 2004274 - Posted: 25 Jul 2019, 23:19:41 UTC

… and with the WoW event coming, Pendings are almost double their usual levels...
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Message 2004337 - Posted: 26 Jul 2019, 11:06:11 UTC

I wont say anything or might get into trouble.. :P
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Message 2004341 - Posted: 26 Jul 2019, 11:24:00 UTC

Thank you for everyone replies.

I will just keep crunching for while and see what happens.
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Message 2004357 - Posted: 26 Jul 2019, 12:40:05 UTC

I may be putting on my Captain Obvious dress uniform, but if it wasn't clear from the previous posts, there is nothing wrong that you are doing. You have completed the tasks successfully and are waiting for others to complete the same work unit so that your task can be validated.
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Message 2004367 - Posted: 26 Jul 2019, 13:46:16 UTC - in response to Message 2004357.  

What I was asking is it normal for the verification pending status work units to take over month to be verified.

Plus is it normal have a large number of work units waiting on verification.
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Message 2004371 - Posted: 26 Jul 2019, 13:56:09 UTC - in response to Message 2004367.  

What I was asking is it normal for the verification pending status work units to take over month to be verified.

Plus is it normal have a large number of work units waiting on verification.

Yes, it is normal.
I always want there to be more awaiting validation than validated.
Some awaiting validations will take months to move to validated, depending on who your wingman is.

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Message 2004388 - Posted: 26 Jul 2019, 17:11:46 UTC - in response to Message 2004371.  

I always want there to be more awaiting validation than validated.
Why is that?
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Message 2004393 - Posted: 26 Jul 2019, 17:42:54 UTC - in response to Message 2004388.  

I always want there to be more awaiting validation than validated.
Why is that?

It just means your hosts have been running correctly with a constant output and you have had no dropouts in hardware or software. Your RAC stays level or is still increasing. RAC increases slowly but decreases rapidly.
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Message 2004412 - Posted: 26 Jul 2019, 19:34:48 UTC - in response to Message 2004393.  

I always want there to be more awaiting validation than validated.
Why is that?

It just means your hosts have been running correctly with a constant output and you have had no dropouts in hardware or software. Your RAC stays level or is still increasing. RAC increases slowly but decreases rapidly.

Exactly

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Message 2004414 - Posted: 26 Jul 2019, 19:53:42 UTC - in response to Message 2004393.  

Why does the RAC decrease? I have seen that for example when the system transfer the WU and the RAC will go up to for example (82) than when I look at it again it has dropped by 12 point and the RAC is (70).
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Message 2004439 - Posted: 26 Jul 2019, 22:53:16 UTC - in response to Message 2004367.  
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What I was asking is it normal for the verification pending status work units to take over month to be verified.
It depends on the other system that gets the same WU as you.
WU deadlines vary from 1 month to 2 months. If the other system that gets the same WU as you doesn't return a result, on the date of the deadline it will be sent to another system. If they don't return the work, then on the date of the new deadline it will be sent to yet another system. And so on- up to around 9 other systems.
However the longest I can remember waiting for a WU to Validate was around 6 months. Most are within the deadline period, a few are within the second deadline period. You don't get many that take much longer than 6 weeks or so, but it does happen often enough.


Plus is it normal have a large number of work units waiting on verification.
The faster you return work, the higher your Pendings will be. The longer it takes to return work, the lower your Pendings will be.


Why does the RAC decrease? I have seen that for example when the system transfer the WU and the RAC will go up to for example (82) than when I look at it again it has dropped by 12 point and the RAC is (70).
Different WUs get differing amounts of Credit, so RAC will vary over time as the work processed changes. There are also other issues that affect Credit, but talking about them results in great amounts of angst & wailing & hairpulling, people curling up into the foetal position and other unseemly behaviour.
It's just the way things are.
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Message 2004454 - Posted: 27 Jul 2019, 0:36:02 UTC - in response to Message 2004439.  

Thank you for clarify my questions.
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Message 2004888 - Posted: 30 Jul 2019, 12:03:56 UTC - in response to Message 2004439.  

There is still a question about the RAC on the home page.

When I look at my home page and the RAC for example says its (500) than I switch pages and when I go back to the home page the RAC will have for example been reduce (480).

why does the RAC after its been awarded gets reduced?

I understand based on the speed of the cpu and if its the GPU the awarded credits will have a different value.

I am just trying to understand the system I am not complaining its a knowledge base aspect on how the RAC is works.

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Message 2004894 - Posted: 30 Jul 2019, 12:29:40 UTC

RAC stands for Recent Average Credit and is a rolling average so will go up and down, even within a day.
There is a second figure - your project total which will grow continuously.
Looking at the information alongside your last post I see your figures are:
Credit: 2,340,597
RAC: 89,637

Tomorrow, all things being equal (as if...), I would expect to see your a new set of figures, with your credit increasing by approximately 89600 and you RAC remaining at about 89600.
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