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Message 2012849 - Posted: 22 Sep 2019, 11:34:07 UTC - in response to Message 2012848.  

And the Scheduler is down, again.
What's that now, 3 weeks running?


Yuppers...

Time to use Richard technique, go to the Pub/Bar and wait until all is fixed,
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Message 2012852 - Posted: 22 Sep 2019, 12:02:38 UTC - in response to Message 2012849.  

And the Scheduler is down, again.
What's that now, 3 weeks running?


Yuppers...

Time to use Richard technique, go to the Pub/Bar and wait until all is fixed,

Hi Juan,

It is way too early to try to attempt to use that method. It's only 7AM here where I live. lol ;)

Have a great day! :)

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Message 2012853 - Posted: 22 Sep 2019, 12:05:06 UTC

I spent the last sunday's outage reading Boinc source code trying to find out what it would take to increase my work queue enough to survive these. Now it is paying off :)
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Message 2012860 - Posted: 22 Sep 2019, 12:46:07 UTC
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Greetings,

I am dangerously close to running out of GPU WUs on Minty-Winders. I'm good for another half hour and then I'll have NONE. :(

There's a pattern to this weekly debacle. The first week I thought I jinxed the whole thing because I was running BOINC on a new OS, Linux Mint v19.2. But now? I don't know...

Have a great day! :)

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I am now out of GPU WUs. :(
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Message 2012862 - Posted: 22 Sep 2019, 12:50:16 UTC - in response to Message 2012853.  

I spent the last sunday's outage reading Boinc source code trying to find out what it would take to increase my work queue enough to survive these. Now it is paying off :)

Hi Ville,

I'm starting to see the benefit to the "spoofing" thing. In less than a half hour I'll be out of GPU WUs. My problem is, I'm running Linux and don't have a clue about programming and compiling on Linux. :(

Have a great day! :)

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Message 2012867 - Posted: 22 Sep 2019, 13:23:39 UTC - in response to Message 2012845.  
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And the Scheduler is down, again.
What's that now, 3 weeks running?


. . Yep, Apache is on the war path for the 3rd consecutive week. ... I know but somebody had to say it ...

. . We need someone to write a kludge to give Apache the appropriate kick in the appropriate place at about 5 am each Sunday morning Berkeley time, just to keep things working ...

Stephen

< groan ... right > . . .
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Message 2012869 - Posted: 22 Sep 2019, 13:56:48 UTC
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I think we're back in business!

22/09/2019 14:54:35 | SETI@home | Reporting 128 completed tasks
22/09/2019 14:54:39 | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 127 new tasks

That's quite quick for a big request.

And a batch of new BLC35 tapes, too.
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Message 2012871 - Posted: 22 Sep 2019, 14:20:30 UTC - in response to Message 2012862.  
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I'm starting to see the benefit to the "spoofing" thing. In less than a half hour I'll be out of GPU WUs. My problem is, I'm running Linux and don't have a clue about programming and compiling on Linux. :(

I don't have too, just follow the instructions in: https://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/wiki/CompileClient

The code is in the standard C++, last time i see something like it was >35 Years ago in my engineering school.

About the outage, that was fast! I only could drink a couple of beers. You see Richard technique works perfect. LOL
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Message 2012876 - Posted: 22 Sep 2019, 14:50:37 UTC - in response to Message 2012871.  

I'm starting to see the benefit to the "spoofing" thing. In less than a half hour I'll be out of GPU WUs. My problem is, I'm running Linux and don't have a clue about programming and compiling on Linux. :(

I don't have too, just follow the instructions in: https://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/wiki/CompileClient

The code is in the standard C++, last i i see something like it was >35 Years ago in my engineering school.

About the outage, that was fast! I only could drink a couple of beers. You see Richard technique works like a charm. LOL

Hi Juan,

Sorry, but I'm not even going to attempt that. I went to GitHub and saw ALL those files without a clue about them. I'm not a programmer, let alone a Linux programmer. Sure, back in the day, I dabbled in C++ programming and some B.A.S.I.C., but gave it up because my brain was not up to the task. Memory has never been good and learning sucks. It takes way too long for me to learn things, especially complicated things like computer programming. So, I stay away from it even if I could benefit from it as in this case. :)

I guess Richard's technique does work. But, when I did drink beer, I didn't drink before 5 or 6 in the afternoon. It's morning here. :)

Have a great day! :)

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Message 2012879 - Posted: 22 Sep 2019, 14:55:00 UTC - in response to Message 2012876.  
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I guess Richard's technique does work. But, when I did drink beer, I didn't drink before 5 or 6 in the afternoon. It's morning here. :)

You could drink coffee, tea, water, or whatever you like, what is important is to take your mind out of the problem and relax. The problem will eventually be fixed and normally we can't do anything to help. Just maybe send an email to the lab guy's warning them about the problem as some does.
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Message 2012892 - Posted: 22 Sep 2019, 16:32:20 UTC - in response to Message 2012862.  

My problem is, I'm running Linux and don't have a clue about programming and compiling on Linux. :(

You don't have to understand programming, you just have to follow a recipe.

1) ./_autosetup
2) ./configure
3) ./make

Then your cake is baked.
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Message 2012898 - Posted: 22 Sep 2019, 17:31:42 UTC - in response to Message 2012892.  

My problem is, I'm running Linux and don't have a clue about programming and compiling on Linux. :(

You don't have to understand programming, you just have to follow a recipe.

1) ./_autosetup
2) ./configure
3) ./make

Then your cake is baked.

Hi Keith,

Yeah, that seems to be the easy part. I'm talking about the source code and how many files it comprises and what to go through to alter the code, etc... :\ Oh and where to put the source code and what to transfer to the BOINC directory etc., etc. I really do not think I'm up to attempting to try.

When I made that statement about "spoofing" I was just stating that I can see a point to doing it since it doesn't take long for a GPU to get through a cache of WUs. With expected or unexpected outages, it can come in handy. :)

Have a great day! :)

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Message 2012901 - Posted: 22 Sep 2019, 17:39:26 UTC
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You could achieve the same goal without the need of compiling by using rescheduling. There are a lots of program available to do that. Some on this forums. Just need to dig a little.

I`m glad to here now you understand why we need to spoofing, the simple answer, the builds & GPU are so fast so a 100 WU limit is unreal.
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Message 2012903 - Posted: 22 Sep 2019, 17:59:42 UTC
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Back to the thread topic.

Did anyone really knows why the Apache server stops to work on every Sunday morning?

As posted by Richard before, 3 times in a row it's hard to believe is a coincidence.
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Message 2012906 - Posted: 22 Sep 2019, 18:22:16 UTC

With 'spoofing' I can get any amount of GPU tasks but if the outage is longer than about 6 hours, I'll run out of CPU tasks too.

Spoofing the CPU count would be useless as Seti@Home only gives you 100 CPU tasks no matter how many CPU cores you have but I do have an idea about how to get more. I just haven't implemented it yet.

My idea is this: when the CPU gets close to starving, make the GPU donate a bunch of tasks to the CPU. This can be done with an external program with no need to modify Boinc client.
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Message 2012914 - Posted: 22 Sep 2019, 19:31:09 UTC - in response to Message 2012906.  

My idea is this: when the CPU gets close to starving, make the GPU donate a bunch of tasks to the CPU. This can be done with an external program with no need to modify Boinc client.

That's the idea behind "rescheduling"
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Message 2012937 - Posted: 23 Sep 2019, 1:11:21 UTC - in response to Message 2012871.  

I don't have too, just follow the instructions in: https://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/wiki/CompileClient
The code is in the standard C++, last time i see something like it was >35 Years ago in my engineering school.
About the outage, that was fast! I only could drink a couple of beers. You see Richard technique works perfect. LOL


. . Thanks for that link but I think I will be up for a lot of reading before I would be ready to try it.

. . And I vote [1] for Richard (and Wiggos) technique.

Stephen

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Message 2012939 - Posted: 23 Sep 2019, 1:17:25 UTC - in response to Message 2012876.  

Hi Juan,
Sorry, but I'm not even going to attempt that. I dabbled in C++ programming and some B.A.S.I.C., but gave it up because my brain was not up to the task. It takes way too long for me to learn things, especially complicated things like computer programming. So, I stay away from it even if I could benefit from it as in this case. :)
I guess Richard's technique does work. But, when I did drink beer, I didn't drink before 5 or 6 in the afternoon. It's morning here. :)
Have a great day! :)
Siran


. . I share your trepidations about tackling a task like this, but maybe I will venture out further down the track, it would be a very positive move.

. . On the second point, maybe it's time to change :) Needs do as needs must :) </joke>

Stephen

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Message 2012950 - Posted: 23 Sep 2019, 2:00:13 UTC - in response to Message 2012939.  

I seriously doubted my ability and no experience with programming or compiling until I was forced into that task by necessity to fix the bug I discovered in the client with a max_concurrent statement in multiple projects.
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Message 2012966 - Posted: 23 Sep 2019, 8:33:14 UTC

Just had an upload not go through on it's first attempt, and the web site here was MIA for a couple of minutes.
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