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Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34744 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
Did I miss something while I was at the pub having 3 beers?Ops... It's pub time. This time I will do the sacrifice.Save a bar stool for me. Need some refreshment from watching football all day. Cheers. |
Stephen "Heretic" Send message Joined: 20 Sep 12 Posts: 5557 Credit: 192,787,363 RAC: 628 |
. . Hmmm, I don't suppose there is anyone who would care to do something with those 4 ancient tapes that have been hanging about on the splitters since Noah wore shorts? Two very old Blc22 and 2 x very old Blc34 tapes that have shown no sign of starting in the many months they have been loitering on the system. Maybe it is time to either kick start them or toss them to the weeds. . . Just a thought ... Stephen ? ? |
Mr. Kevvy Send message Joined: 15 May 99 Posts: 3776 Credit: 1,114,826,392 RAC: 3,319 |
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juan BFP Send message Joined: 16 Mar 07 Posts: 9786 Credit: 572,710,851 RAC: 3,799 |
Dr. Korpela indicated that he just may have found and fixed the Sunday unresponsive scheduler issue. Let's hope we're back to merely one weekly outage... |
Unixchick Send message Joined: 5 Mar 12 Posts: 815 Credit: 2,361,516 RAC: 22 |
Dr. Korpela indicated that he just may have found and fixed the Sunday unresponsive scheduler issue. Let's hope we're back to merely one weekly outage... YES!! good work Dr. Korpela. and thanks to Mr. Kevvy for bringing us the news. |
Tom M Send message Joined: 28 Nov 02 Posts: 5124 Credit: 276,046,078 RAC: 462 |
Dr. Korpela indicated that he just may have found and fixed the Sunday unresponsive scheduler issue. Let's hope we're back to merely one weekly outage... +1 A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association). |
Jimbocous Send message Joined: 1 Apr 13 Posts: 1849 Credit: 268,616,081 RAC: 1,349 |
Dr. Korpela indicated that he just may have found and fixed the Sunday unresponsive scheduler issue. Let's hope we're back to merely one weekly outage... As Einstein goes into mourning .... :) |
Stephen "Heretic" Send message Joined: 20 Sep 12 Posts: 5557 Credit: 192,787,363 RAC: 628 |
Dr. Korpela indicated that he just may have found and fixed the Sunday unresponsive scheduler issue. Let's hope we're back to merely one weekly outage... . . Hip, Hip, Hooray! Stephen :) |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13720 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
The file deleters don't appear to be doing much since the outage- their backlog continues to grow , and the splitter output continues to be poor. Grant Darwin NT |
Stephen "Heretic" Send message Joined: 20 Sep 12 Posts: 5557 Credit: 192,787,363 RAC: 628 |
. . I haven't been monitoring deletions but since the big Sunday outage nearly two weeks ago my uploads/ downloads and work requests have been really, really slllloooooowwww! Completely stalled now Stephen :( |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34744 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
. . I haven't been monitoring deletions but since the big Sunday outage nearly two weeks ago my uploads/ downloads and work requests have been really, really slllloooooowwww! Completely stalled nowNo such problems at all like that here, have you done a modem/router/switch reboot since then? Cheers. |
Stephen "Heretic" Send message Joined: 20 Sep 12 Posts: 5557 Credit: 192,787,363 RAC: 628 |
. . I haven't been monitoring deletions but since the big Sunday outage nearly two weeks ago my uploads/ downloads and work requests have been really, really slllloooooowwww! Completely stalled nowNo such problems at all like that here, have you done a modem/router/switch reboot since then? . . It's worst on the Windows box, seriously thinking of mutating it into a Linux box as well. It's the only one that stalls. I have done a complete shutdown of boinc/manager and it seems a little better now. I will monitor progress ... Stephen :( |
Speedy Send message Joined: 26 Jun 04 Posts: 1639 Credit: 12,921,799 RAC: 89 |
. . I haven't been monitoring deletions but since the big Sunday outage nearly two weeks ago my uploads/ downloads and work requests have been really, really slllloooooowwww! Completely stalled nowNo such problems at all like that here, have you done a modem/router/switch reboot since then? Pleased things are looking on the up for you. If you were to convert the machine to Linux it would certainly boost your RAC. |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13720 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
The servers have certainly been having issues lately. After the outage the deleters weren't doing much at all. Once they got their act together and cleared the backlog, the file purger had issues clearing that backlog. After a day or so they managed to clear their backlog, and now the Awaiting validation is becoming backlogged (along with WU awaiting assimilation). Grant Darwin NT |
Unixchick Send message Joined: 5 Mar 12 Posts: 815 Credit: 2,361,516 RAC: 22 |
The servers have certainly been having issues lately. I've seen this too. I don't see any reason for it though, the hourly return rate is within reason. Something is off. |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13720 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
Looks like another issue with the Validators again- a huge backlog there. Grant Darwin NT |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13720 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
Validator backlog continues to grow- 500k over it's usual level & rising sharply. Grant Darwin NT |
Sebastian M. Bobrecki Send message Joined: 7 Feb 02 Posts: 23 Credit: 38,375,443 RAC: 0 |
If I remember correctly "Results returned and awaiting validation" are results awaiting for quorum. So it is not a server problem. I'm guessing that this could be due to lots of Arecibo shorties, which ends with "-9 result_overflow" and don't match between opt. and normal app., so they requires another wingman. |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13720 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
If I remember correctly "Results returned and awaiting validation" are results awaiting for quorum. It's a server issue- there's no way there are almost a million shorties out there waiting to be validated. For as much as we rage against results that take forever to be returned, the vast majority are returned within a few days. The backlog has started to clear, but it's got a long way to go before it gets back down to it's usual levels. Arecibo shorties, which ends with "-9 result_overflow"Those aren't shorties, they are noise bombs, because they bomb out early (in a matter of seconds). Shorties are processed all the way through, but don't take nearly a long as an average mid range WU to process. Grant Darwin NT |
Sebastian M. Bobrecki Send message Joined: 7 Feb 02 Posts: 23 Credit: 38,375,443 RAC: 0 |
It's a server issue- there's no way there are almost a million shorties out there waiting to be validated. For as much as we rage against results that take forever to be returned, the vast majority are returned within a few days.I think the behavior match with what I think before. I looked at logs of my clients and yesterday was a lot more Arecibo tasks than usual. Actually more Arecibo than blc. According to haveland it was about 500-600k more "awaiting validation" than usual. With over 120k results returned per hour it's not that much. I also saw yesterday that my validation inconclusive increased from usual below 100 to over 150. And I'm not a mega rac cruncher. Today I see it starts dropping with some increase in invalids. Those aren't shorties, they are noise bombs, because they bomb out early (in a matter of seconds). Shorties are processed all the way through, but don't take nearly a long as an average mid range WU to process.This is more a matter of naming convention. For me naming those few seconds tasks noise bombs makes a negative feelings (as noise is something we don't want). And actually they could be what we are all looking for. But as I wrote this is just a matter of naming convention. |
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