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Message 2001360 - Posted: 6 Jul 2019, 19:16:43 UTC




SETI.Germany invites all BOINC teams to the SETI@Home Wow!-Event 2019. It takes place from 15th August, 16.00 UTC, until 29th August 2019, 16.00 UTC.

We cordially ask all team leaders to forward the invitation to their team. Information about the Wow!-Race 2019 and a registration form can be found here: https://www.seti-germany.de/Wow/register/en

SETI.Germany wishes you and your team members much fun with the Wow!-Event 2019.
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Message 2001361 - Posted: 6 Jul 2019, 19:17:48 UTC

Hi,could an Admin post this Thread sticky in the Forum ? Thank you.

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Message 2001430 - Posted: 7 Jul 2019, 0:01:43 UTC

Hello Mr. Kevvy ,thank you to post the Thread sticky in your Forum.


Everyone is welcome to join in the SETI@Home Wow Event 2019:


https://www.seti-germany.de/Wow/


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Message 2001494 - Posted: 7 Jul 2019, 12:18:52 UTC - in response to Message 2001360.  

Your message has been reposted on the Carl Sagan team's forum and relevant irc channels, and the team founder notified for proper registration and follow-up with team mates. Thanks ^^



SETI.Germany invites all BOINC teams to the SETI@Home Wow!-Event 2019. It takes place from 15th August, 16.00 UTC, until 29th August 2019, 16.00 UTC.

We cordially ask all team leaders to forward the invitation to their team. Information about the Wow!-Race 2019 and a registration form can be found here: https://www.seti-germany.de/Wow/register/en

SETI.Germany wishes you and your team members much fun with the Wow!-Event 2019.

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Message 2001544 - Posted: 7 Jul 2019, 19:43:46 UTC

Hello Pierre A Renaud,thank you.

Everyone is welome to join in the Event:

https://www.seti-germany.de/Wow/register


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Message 2002280 - Posted: 12 Jul 2019, 20:07:01 UTC

I wonder when the stats during this test phase will start working?
As of now, the website for the WoW-Event does not show any stats whatsoever when it comes to crunching.

Also clicking on the WoW-Event text from the choices on any of the white stats "windows" gives the following error:

 Access Restricted

You do not have permission to access this page.
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Message 2002927 - Posted: 17 Jul 2019, 0:47:09 UTC

Hello Grumpy Swede,thank you for your Info,i send this Information in the Wow Event IG.


Wow!-Event 2019

42 years after the discovery of the Wow! Signal on August 15th, 1977, which was received from the direction of constellation Sagittarius, it is time to honor the mother of all BOINC projects.
Therefore SETI.Germany is calling for the 8th SETI@Home-Wow!-Event from 15.08.2019 to 29.08.2019.
Anyone, who wishes to participate, has to register on this site: https://www.seti-germany.de/Wow/register


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Message 2003411 - Posted: 20 Jul 2019, 11:46:11 UTC
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How do I un register from WoW event, as feel people storing WU's are just cheating the system?

I want no part of it...
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Message 2003416 - Posted: 20 Jul 2019, 13:07:24 UTC - in response to Message 2003411.  
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as feel people storing WU's are just cheating the system?

I respect your opinion of course but, Cheating? IMHO No. Why? Because my hosts will automatically return all the WU crunched before their dead line. I just use a very, very large WU cache, not see where that's is against any project rule. So science is done in the same way.

<edit>I believe the only difference from the others who do the same is because i not hide my hosts.
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Message 2003417 - Posted: 20 Jul 2019, 13:19:03 UTC
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How do I un register from WoW event, as feel people storing WU's are just cheating the system?


The organisers actually encourage this.

It doesn't actually prevent the WU''s getting crunched and results getting returned and of course the large influx of results in the first hours will benefit everyone as all the wu's validated will in fact count for everyone who has any waiting.

However if you really wish to leave the event I suggest you PM Termimator he has helped me in the past.
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Message 2003714 - Posted: 22 Jul 2019, 4:26:30 UTC - in response to Message 2003411.  

Only the WUs crunched between aug. 15th 16: 00 UTC and aug.29 1600 UTC will count.

WUs crunched during the test/fine tuning period (before aug.15th 1600 UTC) don't count for the final tally.

How do I un register from WoW event, as feel people storing WU's are just cheating the system?

I want no part of it...

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Message 2003716 - Posted: 22 Jul 2019, 4:27:13 UTC
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8th SETI@home Wow! Event 2019 https://www.seti-germany.de/Wow/home/en

Update 2019.07.21 :

191 Participants https://www.seti-germany.de/Wow/stats/users/2019
48 Teams https://www.seti-germany.de/Wow/stats/teams/2019
24 Countries https://www.seti-germany.de/Wow/stats/countries/2019
Register at https://www.seti-germany.de/Wow/register/en

Test / Fine tuning : July 15 - Aug.15 16:00 UTC
Event / Competition : August 15 16:00 UTC - August 29 16:00 UTC

Facebook event : https://www.facebook.com/events/440620326793598
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Message 2003734 - Posted: 22 Jul 2019, 6:45:09 UTC
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Only the WUs crunched between aug. 15th 16: 00 UTC and aug.29 1600 UTC will count.


That should actually be only WU's "returned" not crunched, unless the rules have changed as "bunkering" was certainly encouraged last year.

Which means work can be crunched in advance but not reported until after the event starts.

There are machines out there with caches in the thousands that are crunching work now, but will not report till after the event starts
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Message 2003745 - Posted: 22 Jul 2019, 7:25:39 UTC - in response to Message 2003734.  
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I humbly stand corrected, alas :) :/

I'll ask Terminator if this specific problem has been adressed in the 2019 edition in case he can't see or discuss this specific point here in time...

Only the WUs crunched between aug. 15th 16: 00 UTC and aug.29 1600 UTC will count.
That should actually be only WU's "returned" not crunched, unless the rules have changed as "bunkering" was certainly encouraged last year.

Which means work can be crunched in advance but not reported until after the event starts.

There are machines out there with caches in the thousands that are crunching work now, but will not report till after the event starts
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Hi Terminator,

Has this cheating problem (work units bunkering) been fixed in the 2019 edition of the Wow! Event (as discussed in this thread at https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=84374&postid=2003745) ? if you could discuss with us this matter it would be great !

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Message 2003750 - Posted: 22 Jul 2019, 7:58:10 UTC

I am sorry for my wording of "Cheating" As long as it's in the rules I appoligise for my comments, was not intended to go on this long..

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Message 2003775 - Posted: 22 Jul 2019, 14:18:28 UTC
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This is exactly the reason I won't participate in something like this. People crunching now and holding ALL completed WUs until the start of the event? We little guys stand absolutely no chance of winning in an event such as this, not going against users in the top 10 leader boards. What's the #1 user, W3Perl? No way could we compete. I would say that this event was designed specifically and only for the elite here. The rest of us don't count.

If it was fair, only WUs processed and returned DURING the event would count. As it is, it is not.

Have a great day! :)

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Message 2003780 - Posted: 22 Jul 2019, 14:41:25 UTC - in response to Message 2003734.  

Only the WUs crunched between aug. 15th 16: 00 UTC and aug.29 1600 UTC will count.


That should actually be only WU's "returned" not crunched, unless the rules have changed as "bunkering" was certainly encouraged last year.

Which means work can be crunched in advance but not reported until after the event starts.

There are machines out there with caches in the thousands that are crunching work now, but will not report till after the event starts


Results out in the Field has been around 4.7 million for a while. Right now it is around 5.3 million, so I'm guessing there is half a million being bunkered. It will be interesting to see what happens, as it doesn't benefit anyone if the machine goes down, but that is alot of WU reporting and new WU downloading that will happen.
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Message 2003811 - Posted: 22 Jul 2019, 16:47:12 UTC - in response to Message 2003775.  

This is exactly the reason I won't participate in something like this. People crunching now and holding ALL completed WUs until the start of the event? We little guys stand absolutely no chance of winning in an event such as this, not going against users in the top 10 leader boards. What's the #1 user, W3Perl? No way could we compete. I would say that this event was designed specifically and only for the elite here. The rest of us don't count.

If it was fair, only WUs processed and returned DURING the event would count. As it is, it is not.

Have a great day! :)

Siran

The contest awards medals not just for the individual, but also for Group and Team. Groups and Teams can comprise from 1 to 100 members. They dynamically change from year to year. So a little team like GPUUG with only 24 members can take on Seti Germany with 124 members. There is even more variability in Groups since you get to choose your own group at signup. Instead of joining the same Group as last year, you could for example choose a Group that has your friends in it. I personally just like to beat my prior year's standings for the sense of accomplishment it gives to me.

So yes W3Perl is likely to win the individual Gold Medal again this year, simply because of the normal size of his daily output, there can be changes and movements among the rest of the awards. Part of the fun is to see what new someone or Team or Group has brought to the contest this year. Always are surprises. That is the fun part that I enjoy.
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Message 2003825 - Posted: 22 Jul 2019, 17:27:10 UTC

Let me get this straight, we are concerned that people are "cheating" because they stock up on tasks in order to win an event that awards (to my understanding) a bragging rights trophy/medal of no monetary value? For a research project that searches for ET? What are we more concerned about here?

Perhaps if there are many of you that feel so strongly about this, perhaps you should band together and form a "non-cheaters" group for the event?
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Message 2003829 - Posted: 22 Jul 2019, 17:40:13 UTC - in response to Message 2003811.  

This is exactly the reason I won't participate in something like this. People crunching now and holding ALL completed WUs until the start of the event? We little guys stand absolutely no chance of winning in an event such as this, not going against users in the top 10 leader boards. What's the #1 user, W3Perl? No way could we compete. I would say that this event was designed specifically and only for the elite here. The rest of us don't count.

If it was fair, only WUs processed and returned DURING the event would count. As it is, it is not.

Have a great day! :)

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The contest awards medals not just for the individual, but also for Group and Team. Groups and Teams can comprise from 1 to 100 members. They dynamically change from year to year. So a little team like GPUUG with only 24 members can take on Seti Germany with 124 members. There is even more variability in Groups since you get to choose your own group at signup. Instead of joining the same Group as last year, you could for example choose a Group that has your friends in it. I personally just like to beat my prior year's standings for the sense of accomplishment it gives to me.

So yes W3Perl is likely to win the individual Gold Medal again this year, simply because of the normal size of his daily output, there can be changes and movements among the rest of the awards. Part of the fun is to see what new someone or Team or Group has brought to the contest this year. Always are surprises. That is the fun part that I enjoy.

Hi Keith,

Keith, no offense, but you can enjoy it all you want, you have the horsepower to participate. I would get no fun out of it, I'd be a laughing stock with my 2 PCs, 3 Pis, laptop and tablet. I'm doing this for SETI, not for someone in Germany that decided to put together a contest for the elite crunchers here.

Have a great day! :)

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