Please reference their personal knowledge of exactly what happened in Wuhan and the lab there.
Repeating the Government of China claims and understanding that their scientist's must first get approval before stating anything.
Which world wide scientists have been to China/Wuhan/the Wuhan lab and can independently verify all the claims and denial's of the Government of China?

The links are here in this thread and as an old investigator you should be able to ferret them out yourself. ;-)

And heaven forbid don't tell Trump that one of his conspiracy slanders is all undone.

That doesn't matter to the idiocracy, they know what they want to believe and facts don't matter.

But sadly it does seem feed the needs of the bigamists, racists and xenophobes out there in this world to express their feelings about what they want to believe and how they feel vindicated for having them.

I am still awaiting Independent, non Chinese censored Scientists, going to China and Scientifically examining all materials and lab results

Why?

Just because that is obviously unnecessary and isn't going to happen?


Aside: ISTR that the lab in Wuhan was set up with help from France... Is there yet some more conspiracy stories to be dreamt up about some new secret plot and secret World Domination?

Next silly story?


Stay safe!
Martin

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For the question of whether the Coronavirus-SARS2 is man-made-GM or natural evolution, we have no need to visit any lab. We already have a wealth of samples worldwide.

Those sars2 samples have had the genetic material sequenced by multiple labs and researchers worldwide. They all have found sars2 to be a naturally evolved virus.


Don't tell the Creationists! They'll be even more upset!!

And heaven forbid don't tell Trump that one of his conspiracy slanders is all undone.

Next silliness?


Stay safe!
Martin

As an Atheist, because that will mean that I am not a Creationist.

I am still awaiting Independent, non Chinese censored Scientists, going to China and Scientifically examining all materials and lab results.

Since we cannot trust nor parrot the statements of the Government of China...

BTW: Does anyone believe that the Government of China will allow scientists, that they do not control, having this access inside China?

I assume American scientists did have access to the labs in Wuhan before, US funder ends coronavirus research with Wuhan lab amid political pressure

For the question of whether the Coronavirus-SARS2 is man-made-GM or natural evolution, we have no need to visit any lab. We already have a wealth of samples worldwide.

Those sars2 samples have had the genetic material sequenced by multiple labs and researchers worldwide. They all have found sars2 to be a naturally evolved virus.


Don't tell the Creationists! They'll be even more upset!!

And heaven forbid don't tell Trump that one of his conspiracy slanders is all undone.

Next silliness?


Stay safe!
Martin

As an Atheist, because that will mean that I am not a Creationist.

I am still awaiting Independent, non Chinese censored Scientists, going to China and Scientifically examining all materials and lab results.

Since we cannot trust nor parrot the statements of the Government of China...

BTW: Does anyone believe that the Government of China will allow scientists, that they do not control, having this access inside China?

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Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
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And heaven forbid don't tell Trump that one of his conspiracy slanders is all undone.

That doesn't matter to the idiocracy, they know what they want to believe and facts don't matter.

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For the question of whether the Coronavirus-SARS2 is man-made-GM or natural evolution, we have no need to visit any particular one lab. We already have a wealth of samples worldwide.

Those sars2 samples have had their genetic material sequenced by multiple labs and researchers worldwide. They all have found sars2 to be a naturally evolved virus.


Don't tell the Creationists! They'll be even more upset!!

And heaven forbid don't tell Trump that one of his conspiracy slanders is all undone.

Next silliness?


Stay safe!
Martin

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Anotha GUV ORDERING Mandatory FACE MASK Wearing starting Friday.

VA Guv - who FORGOT his MASK in dA Car - and No Flunky said: Hey Dr. Guv(He is an MD) you forgot your
MASK!!!!!

Taking Selfies on dA Beach w/NO MASK with Others wif NO MASK.

He DECIDEs after ALL THIS TIME to MAKE IT LAW to Wear a MASK.

VA is FULL of VERY INDEPENDENT PEOPLEs and COPs have said TROUBLE WILL BE COMING.

HOW STUPID can an EDUCATED(MD) MAN Be?????

ALL for Adding MONIEs to DEPLETED State COFFERs due to COVid

STUPID and IRRESPONSIBLE.

RUBEWorld Will SPEAK in VA without and Thru MASKs

Yep

A heart warming story

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....when you have no facts to counter the accusation, discredit the source......

1st Year Lawschool...........

Second law school lesson, when you have the facts, discredit the source as it gives a reason for the lies.

SARS-CoV-2 ability to infect is the same 'uniquely adapted to infect humans' as SARS. One problem though in citing that as reason it came from a particular lab. The original SARS predates the lab.

Not to mention the fact that several world wide scientific organisations have already debunked that childish story many times and there are links here to support that fact.

Please reference their personal knowledge of exactly what happened in Wuhan and the lab there.

Repeating the Government of China claims and understanding that their scientist's must first get approval before stating anything.

Which world wide scientists have been to China/Wuhan/the Wuhan lab and can independently verify all the claims and denial's of the Government of China?

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Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.
--- George Santayana

Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
--- Lord Acton

....when you have no facts to counter the accusation, discredit the source......

1st Year Lawschool...........

Second law school lesson, when you have the facts, discredit the source as it gives a reason for the lies.

SARS-CoV-2 ability to infect is the same 'uniquely adapted to infect humans' as SARS. One problem though in citing that as reason it came from a particular lab. The original SARS predates the lab.

Not to mention the fact that several world wide scientific organisations have already debunked that childish story many times and there are links here to support that fact.

....when you have no facts to counter the accusation, discredit the source......

1st Year Lawschool...........

Second law school lesson, when you have the facts, discredit the source as it gives a reason for the lies.

SARS-CoV-2 ability to infect is the same 'uniquely adapted to infect humans' as SARS. One problem though in citing that as reason it came from a particular lab. The original SARS predates the lab.

Here look to be some real numbers for the UK:


Coronavirus deaths fall to six-week low

(Scroll down for the charts.)

Very interesting for the age splits...


Stay safe!
Martin

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I always check other sources in addition to the Daily Mail, but it's occasionally useful to get unconfirmed breaking reports on sensational stories.

The only "mainstream" UK newspaper that I usually avoid is the Daily Express !

Coronavirus is 'uniquely adapted to infect humans'

So is every virus that has ever infected a human being, ever since ...

... well, ever since humans infected the planet. It's called 'Evolution', although I know that's a dirty word to some.

....when you have no facts to counter the accusation, discredit the source......

1st Year Lawschool...........

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AH, disgruntled Russian, https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-07-05/researcher-says-health-bureaucrats-forced-flu-trials-overseas/11279868

Oh dear... Yet more deliberately sensationalist made up dross from the UK Daily Mail...

No real story there then from that 'olden golden generations' gutter gossip rag.


Has Murdock been bought off or bribed or looking for some Trumped up favour?

Have theyz been-a-playin' golf? (Ooops, that one seems not to be owned by Murdoch!)


Now to get back to reality?

Stay safe!
Martin


Edit, note:

Wikipedia: Daily Mail
wrote:

... The Daily Mail has been widely criticised for its unreliability, as well as printing of sensationalist and inaccurate scare stories of science and medical research, and for copyright violations...

All very good to keep their older readers scared and lost in conspiracy?...

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....And from the media on the other side of the pond.........
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8351091/Top-vaccine-scientist-says-coronavirus-come-animal-freak-nature.html

Coronavirus is 'uniquely adapted to infect humans': Top vaccine scientist says it could only have come from an animal through a 'freak of nature' - and the possibility it leaked from Wuhan lab MUST be investigated

.....coupled with the FACT that Chinese Officials destroyed records and viral samples says.............

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Not really. King Donald's party is 99.9999% anti-abortion no matter the circumstances. So a valid comparison on how they actually value human life and/or profits.

No. Many Republican voters is not at all anti-abortion.

RINO's don't count.

Not really. King Donald's party is 99.9999% anti-abortion no matter the circumstances. So a valid comparison on how they actually value human life and/or profits.

No. Many Republican voters is not at all anti-abortion. But whatever. Trump doesn't care what so ever. He is just looking on his accounts and trying to convince voters that he is the man to lead the USA for another four years...