The U.K. has moved up to 6th place. :-O

         total   new    deaths   new
         cases   cases          deaths
World 1,912,438 +60,181 118,683 +4,489
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USA 	579,486 +19,186 23,252 	+1,147
Spain 	169,496 +2,665 	17,489 	+280
Italy 	159,516 +3,153 	20,465 	+566
France 	136,779 +4,188 	14,967 	+574
Germany 128,208 +354 	3,043 	+21
UK 	88,621 	+4,342 	11,329 	+717
China 	82,160  +108    3,341   +2 	
Iran 	73,303 	+1,617 	4,585 	+111
Turkey 	61,049 	+4,093 	1,296 	+98
Belgium 30,589 	+942 	3,903 	+303

Source, https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

South Korea is now down to 21st spot while Australia has dropped down to 30th, both are still expected to keep sliding further down.

... fake news & dangling on a string?

And that is part of the poison of Fake News:

Mix in a little truth and a little of what people expect to hear and then laugh at (or cry for) how far the fake and lies lead people astray...


We've just wasted a good few posts to debunk the 21 million and 55 million false claims...

Scarily, we've had to clearly debunk them because those lies are too plausible for some and might be falsely believed!



Dear All,

Please keep off the Fake News, even if used in jest.

Harm is done by Fake News... All the more so in the present atmosphere of poisoned politics.



Stay safe!
Martin

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He did mention that he had good reason to believe that, based on his knowledge of the country and what he's been told by family and friends, that the figures coming out from China do not represent the true picture, and that a high degree of under statement has and is taking place.

Well, that could be understood & acceptable in some circumstances, i.e., to avoid a national panic. However, China being China...

One of the people I worked with in China is currently "stuck" in mainland Europe. He flew into Europe in January for a three month job, carrying his four phones with him, and picking up another couple of "local" phones shortly after his arrival. About a month ago he ended up in hospital with an acute UTI, which has lead to one of his kidneys stopping and the other just about hanging in there, so he's now on dialysis thousands of miles from home, and unable to get home due to his current medical condition and the massive flight restrictions in place. Two of his phone contracts have been blocked as he was doing so many International calls, so he's turned one off and is relying on the other one until that gets blocked, whereupon he will use the other one until that too gets blocked. Having worked in China I can say that it is not uncommon for professional people to have half a dozen phones, some for work, some for family some for friends and some for, well who knows. I would assume that a fair number of folk have turned off a few of their phones - who needs a work phone when work is closed (or more likely work has suspended the contracts until it comes back to life).
He did mention that he had good reason to believe that, based on his knowledge of the country and what he's been told by family and friends, that the figures coming out from China do not represent the true picture, and that a high degree of under statement has and is taking place.

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So the fact that Trump & other officials have not only handled this crisis badly but also lied is fake news & dangling on a string?
With Trump's statements regarding the coronavirus, if one is aware of history, can only think of this:
The use of a lie so "colossal" that no one would believe that someone "could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously".
Surely the leader of the free world would not stoop so low?
Is that statement to be taken as "fake news"

Really? Where did I post fake news?

Follow the last few posts... You're dangling on the end of the fake piece of string...

String along-a Max...

(Such are the poisonous false ways of Fake News...)


Stay safe!
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Really? Where did I post fake news?

My thoughts exactly. :-D US propaganda is becoming more and more hysterical, they must be pretty desperate to turn eyes away from their terrible handling of the epidemic.

As the US likes being bigger & doing things better, they just want to outdo Joseph Goebbels. :-)

Such is the way of viral Fake News...

All no joke.


Stay safe!
Martin

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My thoughts exactly. :-D US propaganda is becoming more and more hysterical, they must be pretty desperate to turn eyes away from their terrible handling of the epidemic.

As the US likes being bigger & doing things better, they just want to outdo Joseph Goebbels. :-)

Now it's Goebbels :(

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Pandemic Politics is not helpful.

Stay safe.

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My thoughts exactly. :-D US propaganda is becoming more and more hysterical, they must be pretty desperate to turn eyes away from their terrible handling of the epidemic.

As the US likes being bigger & doing things better, they just want to outdo Joseph Goebbels. :-)

21 million Chinese died of coronavirus – US intelligence officials intercept data

And I've heard through the grapevine, that 55 million U.S citizens suddenly disappeared, and are presumed dead from the Coronavirus.

Just to be clear, I'm guessing that '55 million' is some silly half-bit silly fake news attempted joke...

The real news headline is:

School is closed for 55 million American children


Let's keep off the joke of Fake News please. There is enough silliness without adding yet more!

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Just different thoughts and opinions about China and anti USA accusation's. Which reflect's someone's preconceived beliefs and both sides congratulating themselves Nothing more, nothing less.

RE: 21 Million less cell phone user's in China.

China’s Mobile Carriers Lose 21 Million Users as Virus Bites

A very long article with factual information and explanations.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-23/china-s-mobile-carriers-lose-15-million-users-as-virus-bites

And:

Chinese operators lose 21 million subscribers during pandemic

https://www.rcrwireless.com/20200327/business/chinese-operators-lose-21-million-subscribers

Both give plausible explanations and neither speculate that these people have died.

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Stay safe.

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Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.
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Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
--- Lord Acton

21 million Chinese died of coronavirus US intelligence officials intercept data

And I've heard through the grapevine, that 55 million U.S citizens suddenly disappeared, and are presumed dead from the Coronavirus.

My thoughts exactly. :-D US propaganda is becoming more and more hysterical, they must be pretty desperate to turn eyes away from their terrible handling of the epidemic.

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Gazing at the skies, hoping for contact... Unlikely, but it would be such a fantastic opportunity to learn.

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Until it is known, it can be safely assumed that Capt Crozier e-mailed those of equal and/or higher rank regarding the situation on his ship.

Kinda like Hil-Liar-y's email account..................could be intercepted by a marginally intelligent 12yr old with a 5 year old laptop...........

There is Quantum Encrypted communication equipment aboard every US Naval vessel, so unless his letter was intended to be read by other than his superiors, HOW did it get into the newspaper?

Someone likely very high ranking inside the Pentagon didn't like the ex secretary of the navy's first answer to the e-mail. His 1/4 million dollar temper tantrum unclassified talk to the sailors shows the real guilty party.

21 million Chinese died of coronavirus – US intelligence officials intercept data

And I've heard through the grapevine, that 55 million U.S citizens suddenly disappeared, and are presumed dead from the Coronavirus.

....apparently the Captain didn't send a letter through open channels..............

Aside from the Pentagon, what open channels are they?
2: What is "classified" about the coronavirus that the US doesn't want the world to know?

https://www.stripes.com/news/us/pentagon-orders-installations-to-stop-reporting-coronavirus-cases-as-military-linked-infections-eclipse-1-000-1.624244

"Unit level readiness data for key military forces is information that is classified as a risk to operational security and could jeopardize operations and/or deterrence,” Hoffman said in the statement. “If a commander believes that [the coronavirus] could affect the readiness of our strategic deterrent or strategic response forces, we understandably protect that information from public release and falling into the hands of our adversaries — as we expect they would do the same.”

As it had already been reported that there were coronavirus cases aboard the ship, and as can be seen from the cruise ship cases, you shouldn't go to sea when you haven't eradicated the risk of further infections. Therefore the TR was already unoperational.

Breaking news, Sailor from USS Theodore Roosevelt dies of coronavirus complications

Until it is known, it can be safely assumed that Capt Crozier e-mailed those of equal and/or higher rank regarding the situation on his ship.

Kinda like Hil-Liar-y's email account..................could be intercepted by a marginally intelligent 12yr old with a 5 year old laptop...........
There is Quantum Encrypted communication equipment aboard every US Naval vessel, so unless his letter was intended to be read by other than his superiors, HOW did it get into the newspaper?

So you're saying that "radio silence" MUST be maintained even after the enemy has located your position. :-)

What data have US intelligence officials intercepted? Apparently Beijing has already released the data that the paper Epoch Times has published.

21 million Chinese died of coronavirus – US intelligence officials intercept data

Beijing announced on March 19 that over 21 million cell phone accounts in China were canceled in the past three months while 840,000 landlines were closed.
According to the US, the intercepted data that shows that China underreported its coronavirus infections and deaths was validated for a second time when it tallied with a data released by Beijing authorities. Beijing announced on March 19 that over 21 million cell phone accounts in China were canceled in the past three months while 840,000 landlines were closed.
China had reported little over 81,000 infections with 3,300 deaths.

No doubt that China underreported its coronavirus infections but this sounds like fake news and that Epoch Times overreport the numbers.
Epoch Times is a pro-Trump media outlet based in New York known to push conspiracy theories.
Funny that they have a Swedish edition as well with the same article:)
https://epochtimes.se/21-miljoner-mobilabonnemang-har-stangs-i-Kina---kan-innebara-stort-antal-doda-av-KKP-virus

Understanding that the original post had many and necessary caveats.

All must engage in Critical Thinking regarding all News Media's in this Unprofessional News Media era.

But unfortunately. Many, on both sides, are unable to cut the strings of their puppet master's media.

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Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.
--- George Santayana

Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
--- Lord Acton

Until it is known, it can be safely assumed that Capt Crozier e-mailed those of equal and/or higher rank regarding the situation on his ship.

Kinda like Hil-Liar-y's email account..................could be intercepted by a marginally intelligent 12yr old with a 5 year old laptop...........

There is Quantum Encrypted communication equipment aboard every US Naval vessel, so unless his letter was intended to be read by other than his superiors, HOW did it get into the newspaper?

From anyone that received the letter, that includes anyone that the letter passed through in plain language.

What data have US intelligence officials intercepted? Apparently Beijing has already released the data that the paper Epoch Times has published.

21 million Chinese died of coronavirus – US intelligence officials intercept data

Beijing announced on March 19 that over 21 million cell phone accounts in China were canceled in the past three months while 840,000 landlines were closed.
According to the US, the intercepted data that shows that China underreported its coronavirus infections and deaths was validated for a second time when it tallied with a data released by Beijing authorities. Beijing announced on March 19 that over 21 million cell phone accounts in China were canceled in the past three months while 840,000 landlines were closed.
China had reported little over 81,000 infections with 3,300 deaths.

No doubt that China underreported its coronavirus infections but this sounds like fake news and that Epoch Times overreport the numbers.
Epoch Times is a pro-Trump media outlet based in New York known to push conspiracy theories.
Funny that they have a Swedish edition as well with the same article:)
https://epochtimes.se/21-miljoner-mobilabonnemang-har-stangs-i-Kina---kan-innebara-stort-antal-doda-av-KKP-virus