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Message 2043446 - Posted: 7 Apr 2020, 2:40:03 UTC - in response to Message 2043394.  

Well there are now 1,337,072 cases world wide ATM with the U.S. is still going ballistic passing 362,326 cases. Spain looks to have won 2nd place with 135,032 cases with Italy in 3rd with 132,547 while Germany passes 100,000 and France closes in on that number.
Actually I don't think it's fair to say the US going ballistic. Most countries have gone ballistic. No countries have the preparedness to deal with a pandemic like this. Instead of looking of confirmed cases in a country look at how many die from Covid-19.
In the US it's now 31/1M pop and in Australia it's only 2. In Italy it's 273, UK 79 and in Sweden it's 47.
Now what did Australia do to get so low mortality rates then so many other countries?
Probably being a very big island and using border restrictions when we did helped a lot, but acting when we did (even though that action was considered slow by some) and the amount of testing and tracking along with having a very good public healthcare system (that anyone can access without it costing them a small fortune) after that would be my best guess along with implementing social distancing standards and an effective communication system on health and social requirement alerts over all media formats has also kept most of the public well informed (some find it more than annoying as we're constantly being bombarded with it).

I just miss being able to go to the pub for a beer (or 3) and having a yack with the other locals there.
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Message 2043438 - Posted: 7 Apr 2020, 2:18:22 UTC - in response to Message 2043435.  
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https://dailycaller.com/2020/04/06/democratic-michigan-rep-karen-whitsett-credits-trump-with-saving-her-life
HYDROXY Baby!!!!!
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Crap news. No one has been saved to life by a "HYDROXY" drug being a COVID-19 patient.
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Message 2043435 - Posted: 7 Apr 2020, 2:01:25 UTC

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Message 2043425 - Posted: 7 Apr 2020, 0:47:32 UTC - in response to Message 2043386.  

Well there are now 1,337,072 cases world wide ATM with the U.S. is still going ballistic passing 362,326 cases. Spain looks to have won 2nd place with 135,032 cases with Italy in 3rd with 132,547 while Germany passes 100,000 and France closes in on that number.

There are now 209 countries and territories around the world with recorded cases.

US Trend is now down https://covid19.healthdata.org/projections significantly from a week ago.

California, that horrible blue place no red dares live, has now gotten so far ahead it is shipping 500 ventilators to NY. Early effective social distancing seems to have worked.

S:“Logic clearly dictates that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.”
K:“Or the one.”
Jeremy Bentham said, "It is the greatest good to the greatest number of people which is the measure of right and wrong."
Why is this so hard for a red to understand and practice?

Too bad 8 red state governors can't seem to understand logic, math or science.

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Message 2043421 - Posted: 7 Apr 2020, 0:11:47 UTC
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Media figures on both sides of the aisle failed to appreciate the extent of the threat until it was too late. Liberals and Conservatives shouldn’t pretend otherwise.

The coronavirus pandemic has changed virtually everything about American life, with one prominent exception: While business, the arts, and sports are all on hold, the hyper-partisan political warfare that afflicts our public square has continued at the same pace and intensity as before.

As the present crisis has developed over the past few weeks, the chattering classes have kept busy interpreting everything that happens through pro-Trump and anti-Trump prisms. Many in the mainstream liberal media are intent on settling scores with Trump’s cheerleaders in the conservative media, whom they have accused of fueling skepticism about the danger posed by the coronavirus. Yet in doing so, they are ignoring the fact that many on the left were just as confused about the pandemic at its start and just as eager to play politics with it as their favorite villains on the right.

A front-page story in the New York Times this week summed up the liberal indictment of the right. Focusing heavily on Fox News personalities such as Sean Hannity and right-wing talkers such as Rush Limbaugh, the piece took as its conceit that they had not merely gotten the story wrong but had badly misled their audience and helped encourage the most prominent consumer of conservative media — President Trump — to delay implementing measures to stem the pandemic’s spread.

On February 5, the Times published an op-ed by global-tourism reporter Rosie Spinks under the headline, “Who Says It’s Not Safe to Travel to China?” The article, an argument against Trump’s restrictions on flights from China, took the point of view that the real problem with the virus was that it was promoting hate against Chinese people and hurting the travel industry.

The same intellectual reflex motivated politicians such as [Democrat] New York City mayor Bill de Blasio and his health commissioner, Oxiris Barbot, to spend February and part of March dismissing the pandemic. They urged New Yorkers to disregard any fears about the virus and attend the Chinese New Year celebrations and parade in New York’s Chinatown. [Democrat]House speaker Nancy Pelosi did the same thing while promoting the Chinese New Year festivities held in her native San Francisco’s Chinatown. In retrospect, such advocacy is hard to defend given the likelihood that the virus was already starting to spread. But at the time, the looming danger wasn’t yet clear, so the political needs of the moment took precedence.

Meanwhile, on January 31, the Washington Post published an op-ed by former Harvard professor David Ropeik that sought to dismiss fears about the impending pandemic as a figment of our collective imagination, mocking the notion of a “global health emergency.” A few days, later the Post ran another opinion piece by a pair of academics under the headline “Why we should be wary of an aggressive government response to coronavirus,” which claimed fears about the pandemic were merely an invitation to “harsh measures” that would “scapegoat marginalized populations.”r wasn’t yet clear, so the political needs of the moment took precedence.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/04/coronavirus-pandemic-conservative-and-liberal-pundits-underestimated-threat/

Yes, the politicization of this pandemic, by both sides, and their denial's or attempts to deflect attention from their past statements, actions and inaction's, is disgusting.
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Message 2043396 - Posted: 6 Apr 2020, 22:04:02 UTC - in response to Message 2043380.  
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HYDROXY Baby!!!!!
https://www.foxnews.com/health/thousands-of-coronavirus-infected-new-yorkers-treated-with-anti-malarial-drug
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From the article:

As many as 4,000 seriously ill coronavirus patients in New York are being treated with the antimalarial drug hydroxychloroquine, state health officials say.

President Trump has touted hydroxychloroquine as a potential life-saver, although there is no widespread scientific evidence to date showing it helps battle COVID-19.

But {Democrat] Gov. Andrew Cuomo last month said health care providers in the state would be using the drug in combination with the antibiotic Zithromax, or azithromycin, for some last-ditch cases, based on potentially promising research.

“Time is of the essence,’’ Albany University Public Health Dean David Holtgrave, who is on the state’s research team, said in a statement.

Then what was the true reason for the Never Trumpeter's initial attack and then their need to not acknowledge the NYS Democrat Governor's decision?

Yes, we do understand both reasons.
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Message 2043394 - Posted: 6 Apr 2020, 22:00:21 UTC - in response to Message 2043386.  
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Well there are now 1,337,072 cases world wide ATM with the U.S. is still going ballistic passing 362,326 cases. Spain looks to have won 2nd place with 135,032 cases with Italy in 3rd with 132,547 while Germany passes 100,000 and France closes in on that number.
Actually I don't think it's fair to say the US going ballistic. Most countries have gone ballistic. No countries have the preparedness to deal with a pandemic like this. Instead of looking of confirmed cases in a country look at how many die from Covid-19.
In the US it's now 31/1M pop and in Australia it's only 2. In Italy it's 273, UK 79 and in Sweden it's 47.
Now what did Australia do to get so low mortality rates then so many other countries?
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Message 2043386 - Posted: 6 Apr 2020, 21:00:35 UTC

Well there are now 1,337,072 cases world wide ATM with the U.S. is still going ballistic passing 362,326 cases. Spain looks to have won 2nd place with 135,032 cases with Italy in 3rd with 132,547 while Germany passes 100,000 and France closes in on that number.

There are now 209 countries and territories around the world with recorded cases.
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Message 2043385 - Posted: 6 Apr 2020, 20:49:24 UTC - in response to Message 2043380.  

Why HYDROXY?
There are LOTS of other ongoing researches using old drugs how to deal with the coronavirus.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_drug_repurposing_research
Mind you. It's not a vaccine.
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Message 2043368 - Posted: 6 Apr 2020, 19:17:07 UTC

Opa! Britain's covid-19 sick Prime Minister Boris Johnson has been moved to the intensive care unit, reports the BBC according to Reuters.
Foreign Minister Dominic Raab temporarily takes control of the country.
"During the afternoon, the Prime Minister's condition worsened, and on the advice of his medical team, he was moved to the hospital's intensive care unit," the Prime Minister's staff said in a statement.
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Message 2043327 - Posted: 6 Apr 2020, 13:56:58 UTC - in response to Message 2043324.  

I have debated and disagreed with various personalities on this and other threads in this venue. And agreed wholeheartedly with others or at times even those I disagree with regularly.

May I say, I wish everyone, EVERYONE, good health and prayers (whether you believe in them or not) in this time of crisis as pestilence stalks our small blue marble.......

May we all 'Live Long and Prosper'.

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Message 2043324 - Posted: 6 Apr 2020, 13:41:58 UTC

I have debated and disagreed with various personalities on this and other threads in this venue. And agreed wholeheartedly with others or at times even those I disagree with regularly.

May I say, I wish everyone, EVERYONE, good health and prayers (whether you believe in them or not) in this time of crisis as pestilence stalks our small blue marble.......

May we all 'Live Long and Prosper'.

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Message 2043293 - Posted: 6 Apr 2020, 9:47:51 UTC - in response to Message 2043275.  
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Well i was wrong but this will tell you what it is , when it was invented , and how it works .

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivermectin]
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Message 2043286 - Posted: 6 Apr 2020, 6:55:08 UTC

In the 16th Century, measles and smallpox were spread by Spanish Conquistadors to entire communities who had no prior immunity. Those viruses took 100 years to conquer the Americas. Covid-19 has taken 100 days to conquer the world.
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Message 2043277 - Posted: 6 Apr 2020, 6:10:57 UTC
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Medical Officer
"I'm too powerful to be infected!

Covid-19
"I don't care who you are, I infect you, your ass is mine"

Another case of "Do as I say"
Covid-19 "Yep, I don't care who I infect"
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Message 2043275 - Posted: 6 Apr 2020, 6:09:48 UTC - in response to Message 2043267.  

Throw stuff at the wall and see what sticks.



No that is not what has happened , they where already testing Vermox with S.A.R.S ( Covid - 6 ) and when covid 19 was avaible they tested that

No Frankenstein Medicine here we will leave that up to you guys and your RNA sequencing tech


Yep, throw stuff at the wall and see what sticks.


Vermox is a antibiotic so i say again NO Frankenstein Medicine here

Not antiviral toss at wall see if it sticks.
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Message 2043267 - Posted: 6 Apr 2020, 5:31:18 UTC - in response to Message 2043266.  

Throw stuff at the wall and see what sticks.



No that is not what has happened , they where already testing Vermox with S.A.R.S ( Covid - 6 ) and when covid 19 was avaible they tested that

No Frankenstein Medicine here we will leave that up to you guys and your RNA sequencing tech


Yep, throw stuff at the wall and see what sticks.


Vermox is a antibiotic so i say again NO Frankenstein Medicine here
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