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消息 2042670 - 发表于:3 Apr 2020, 0:54:01 UTC - 回复消息 2042669.  

They just very successfully jumped into the globalization of the world.

Perhaps we must rethink both globalization and China America.
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So China started the globalisation trend?
China "forced" the world to dismantle every nations civil defence in the past?
A fixation on China & Europe will not "magically" vaccinate the world from the coronavirus.
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Who said China started globalization? No one.

They just very successfully jumped into the globalization of the world.

Perhaps we must rethink both globalization and China.
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So China started the globalisation trend?
China "forced" the world to dismantle every nations civil defence in the past?
A fixation on China & Europe will not "magically" vaccinate the world from the coronavirus.
Edited for spelling error.
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Automatically dismissing any NewsSource means existing in a shallow box of preexisting beliefs.

My life is too short to consider the National Enquirer as a news source.

And the Washington Examiner you referenced as "a well documented prevaricator".

But not MSNBC and CNN?

Yes, an example of my prevaricator news source is better than your prevaricator news source :-D
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Automatically dismissing any NewsSource means existing in a shallow box of preexisting beliefs.

My life is too short to consider the National Enquirer as a news source.
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Yes, COVID-19 is just another very serious and deadly new flu (influenza) virus the human race has been subjected to over its history.
Like when Columbus came to America and later the conquistadors spread diseases of all kind, most of all to South America, but yes even deadly corona virus. That virus killed a lot of the people living there not having the immunity...

Yep, many European Country's did invade, occupy, murder and inflict terrible disease upon the indigenous people of the America's.
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Yes, COVID-19 is just another very serious and deadly new flu (influenza) virus the human race has been subjected to over its history.
Like when Columbus came to America and later the conquistadors spread diseases of all kind, most of all to South America, but yes even deadly corona virus. That virus killed a lot of the people living there not having the immunity...
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Anyhow, the world's total of cases has now passed the 1 million mark.
Yep, with a 5+% mortality rate.
All I have seen over the past several months is "reaction" & "blame game" in motion.
The use of nuclear weapons at the end of WWII taught the world a harsh lesson, which many at the time took note of.
They created a civil defence structure which was supposed to be able to deal with many serious crisis's.
What happened?
Easy answer - the world became too profit centric.
Much too expensive to maintain that. Looking back now, hindsight maybe, but....
The US on Thursday said it saw a record 6.6 million new unemployment benefit claims.

...the global economy won't just suddenly return to normal as if nothing happened.
So it begs a question?
Which will prove to be more expensive?
An effective civil defence structure as in the past or
the current structure?

Or Globalization, with an ascending China, was the wrong direction to go.
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Anyhow, the world's total of cases has now passed the 1 million mark.
Yep, with a 5+% mortality rate.
All I have seen over the past several months is "reaction" & "blame game" in motion.
The use of nuclear weapons at the end of WWII taught the world a harsh lesson, which many at the time took note of.
They created a civil defence structure which was supposed to be able to deal with many serious crisis's.
What happened?
Easy answer - the world became too profit centric.
Much too expensive to maintain that. Looking back now, hindsight maybe, but....
The US on Thursday said it saw a record 6.6 million new unemployment benefit claims.

...the global economy won't just suddenly return to normal as if nothing happened.
So it begs a question?
Which will prove to be more expensive?
An effective civil defence structure as in the past or
the current structure?
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The Washington Examiner is a well documented prevaricator.
I follow NPR, the BBC, NBC, ABC. and even Faux among others. Much of what that rag reports is not noted there.

I follow CNN, BBC, FOX, the NY Times (usually the first read) and other's. Who have all degenerated into infecting their opinions and political (Anti/Pro Trump) into their News Sections.

In the past. The once respected New Organizations usually, but not always, separated their political, social and ideological views from their News. Back then, the Opinion Section, was the Opinion Section. Not the News Section.

Therefore, as I have posted. Referencing Modern Day opinion pieces parading as Professional Journalism, means:

My possible BS News Sources are better than your possible BS News Sources.

BTW: When someone references a News Source. I Google the information to see if has been reported, but perhaps not "Headlined" by other sources not of their political persuasion.

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The Washington Examiner is a well documented prevaricator.
I follow NPR, the BBC, NBC, ABC. and even Faux among others. Much of what that rag reports is not noted there.
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I always consider the source, the Washington Examiner as a source is not even debatable.

Depending upon one's political, social, religious and ideological beliefs. Add CNN, MSNBC, FOX, the NY Times and the other's.

Just another example that my BS Source's are better then your BS Source's :-D :-D :-D
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I always consider the source, the Washington Examiner as a source is not even debatable.
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Ah, now I get it. You're coming from a parallel universe where there's an influenza outbreak. See, in this universe, the outbreak isn't due to an influenza virus but a coronavirus. Therefore, anything you say about the corona virus outbreak is irrelevant.
Hang on. The corona virus IS an influenza virus and as old as we human beings. Most corona viruses are not so bad as this one. But SARS-CoV-2 is a new strain of corona virus that has not been previously identified in humans. So far it it's not seasonal and that's the only difference to an influenza. But many fear it will be seasonal.
https://www.livescience.com/new-coronavirus-compare-with-flu.html

Yes, COVID-19 is just another very serious and deadly new flu (influenza) virus the human race has been subjected to over its history.

To those accusing other's of living in a "parallel universe".

It's important to note that seasonal flu, which causes outbreaks every year, should not be confused with pandemic flu, or a global outbreak of a new flu virus that is very different from the strains that typically circulate.'

https://www.livescience.com/new-coronavirus-compare-with-flu.html

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Japanese deputy prime minister says WHO should be renamed China Health Organization
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/japanese-deputy-prime-minister-says-who-should-be-renamed-china-health-organization


.....seems at least one other leader has 'woke'.

Travel data of passengers arriving in the United States from China during the critical period in December, January and February, when the disease took hold in that country, shows a stunning 759,493 people entered the U.S.

Those travelers from China included more than 228,000 Americans returning home and hundreds of thousands of Chinese nationals arriving for business, academics, tourism or to visit family.

....343,402 arrived from Italy, 418,848 from Spain and about 1.9 million more came from Britain.

Combined with those from China, that's more than 3.4 million people from just four countries -- nearly half, about 1.5 million, Americans returning home. Travel from Italy and Spain wasn't shut down until March 13, with U.K. arrivals restricted a few days later.


Bottom line, had China AND it's wholly owned subsidiary WHO been truthful about the level of contagion and ease of spread, travel could have been shut down on January 14th when the WHO made is twitter pronouncement of 'no evidence of human to human infection'....

....China owns it and WHO is their willing accomplice.

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<Trump ON>It will be fine. Today it's over a million tasks, tomorrow it will begin to disappear, and within a week, just like magic, the Chinese virus will be gone. Trust me, I know these things, my uncle was at MIT</Trump OFF>
But the Genius just said that to bring hope to the people (the American people) trying thinking positive...
That's his own word...
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<Trump ON>It will be fine. Today it's over a million tasks, tomorrow it will begin to disappear, and within a week, just like magic, the Chinese virus will be gone. Trust me, I know these things, my uncle was at MIT</Trump OFF>
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Ah, now I get it. You're coming from a parallel universe where there's an influenza outbreak. See, in this universe, the outbreak isn't due to an influenza virus but a coronavirus. Therefore, anything you say about the corona virus outbreak is irrelevant.
Hang on. The corona virus IS an influenza virus and as old as we human beings. Most corona viruses are not so bad as this one. But SARS-CoV-2 is a new strain of corona virus that has not been previously identified in humans. So far it it's not seasonal and that's the only difference to an influenza. But many fear it will be seasonal.
https://www.livescience.com/new-coronavirus-compare-with-flu.html
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Sadly there are those who do live in some weird alternative universes.

Anyhow, the world's total of cases has now passed the 1 million mark. :-O

Over 240,000 of those in the U.S., while Italy and Spain duke it out 2nd and 3rd places (115K vs 113K ATM), and Turkey is still breaking records as they rocket into the "Top 10".
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Also, the strains in China and Iran are different.


I assume you have PROOF of this statement with sources cited??????
I don't see any.


The best I could find without wasting my time for you is an Icelandic study identifying 40 different mutations of the virus. (Because yes, a random mutation is obviously the most likely explanation for the difference in main strains between China and Iran.)

Sorry to burst your bubble, but 'Made In China' is engraved on every case of the WuHu Flu, whether made in a lab or a natural occurrence because some local Ozzie Osborn ate a bat.


Ah, now I get it. You're coming from a parallel universe where there's an influenza outbreak. See, in this universe, the outbreak isn't due to an influenza virus but a coronavirus. Therefore, anything you say about the coronavirus outbreak is irrelevant.
Gazing at the skies, hoping for contact... Unlikely, but it would be such a fantastic opportunity to learn.

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