I've created a new team, but my team page doesn't seem to have a green Join button like everyone else's. I have made sure "Accept New Members" is ticked in the Admin section. Any idea what is going on?

My team page is here: https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/team_display.php?teamid=209999

Thanks

It doesn't have the button for you as you are already in it. It will for anyone else (I see it.)

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Ah, thank you for confirming that you can see the button. I was thrown off b/c I even tried using a different web browser that I have never used before to look at the team page and still no button. So it must be tracking me by IP address or something. Or possibly only registered users can see the button. Don't think a Chrome cookie would apply to Firefox or MS Edge.

In any case, thanks again for confirming it's working. Much appreciated. Looks like I'm doing some damage even by myself. Got into the top 25% with one computer in 3 days.

PS - Is there any data available on total number of active users of SETI@home?

The stats aggregating sites like BoincStats https://boincstats.com/en/stats/projectStatsInfo or Free-dc.org https://stats.free-dc.org/stats.php?page=index

can show the number of active users for a project.

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Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours

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Looks like I'm doing some damage even by myself. Got into the top 25% with one computer in 3 days.

And it is possible you can run your gpu's a bit faster with command line parameters.

Does your MB support quad channel memory?

How fast is your cpu running?

Tom

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Can you send me a link to command line params for GPU?

I'm running the AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1950X (16-core/32-thread) with the AMD X399 motherboard, so yes, both the processor and the MB support quad-channel memory. I don't think I have quad-channel installed though, I think it's dual channel. It's the memory here: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820236092

I've got 64gb installed, wouldn't mind having 128gb, maybe I'll sell my current memory and upgrade to quad-channel with 128gb.

Not sure if you mean how much CPU have I allocated to BOINC or if you mean have I overclocked CPU on my system?

I've left CPU clocks as out-of-box. No overclocks. So base speed of 3.0Ghz to 3.7Ghz on all 16 cores.

I've got two AMD Radeon RX 580 8gb GPU's on this machine, I presume BOINC supports dual GPU's?

In BOINC I've set up as:

"Use at Most 75% of the CPU's" (so 12 cores out of 16)
"Use at Most 80% of the CPU TIME"
"Suspend GPU when the computer is in use, in use means the last 1 minutes"

One thing worth noting....this is my work PC. During the day I do lots of Photoshop work, Adobe Premiere Pro video editing, stuff like that. So it's not necessarily my intent to max out the top hashing power of this PC for crunching SETI data, but rather to max out the Efficiency.... Maximum data crunching for SETI with least detriment to system performance.

As you are running the "stock" applications, you should be made aware that not all of them have command lines. To get the best out of command lines - you need to be running one of the optimised applications which you can get from a number of sources. BUT be aware that running these will stress you computer somewhat more than stock applications, and as you rely on it for work then it might not be a good idea to use them.

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Since Threadripper is designed as a quad channel system, it is best to run it as such. So at minimum, you should have at least 4 sticks of memory installed in A2,B2,C2 and D2 positions. If you are currently running 2 X 32GB for your 64GB of installed memory, just add another two sticks to bump up to 128GB.

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Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours

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Can you send me a link to command line params for GPU?

Because you are running Windows, you can find files with the parameters in the ProgramData subdirectory. This sub directory is "hidden" so you have to toggle the File Explorer's "show hidden files".

The name of the files you want usually have "exactly" the same name as the gpu apps but they have a .TXT extension and will have either MB or AP in the first two letters. They also say "readme" in the name.

The actual command line files have a similar naming convention except they don't say "read me".

There is an AMD gpu specialist named Mike who can probably offer more specific advice if you are still confused.

Most of the readme files I just mentioned have examples of command line parameters for entry level/low end gpus, medium gpus and very high end AMD gpus. Those examples are good starting places.

Yes, the AP apps have different command line files/lines than the MB apps.

Tom

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Tom, as the OP is NOT running optimised applications just now he will NOT have a readme file.

If the ncp wants to run the optimised applications, which will give him access to the readme file then he will need to download a copy of the "Lunatics Installer" - one download site is http://mikesworld.eu/download.html.
BUT this has several downsides, first is that running these applications will increase the thermal stress on a computer, and second, the user has to do a manual update if/when a new version of the SETI@Home applications is released.
Keith's solution would improve the performance of both SETI, but also the day-to-day use of the computer - remember this is not a dedicated cruncher, but a computer that earns its living first and crunches second.

A "free" improvement would be to set "Use at Most 80% of the CPU TIME" to "Use at Most 100% of the CPU TIME". This, in conjunction with your existing setting of "Suspend GPU when the computer is in use, in use means the last 1 minutes" will maximise the processing at times when one isn't actually working. I would be a bit wary about the 1minute time if doing large renderings which take more than a few seconds as "using the computer" is moving the mouse or using the keyboard type activity (I'm used to CAD models that can take several minutes to build....)

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the user has to do a manual update if/when a new version of the SETI@Home applications is released.

I think we can safely say that he will have a LONG WAIT before any new SETI@Home applications are released.

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Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours

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If you are currently running 2 X 32GB for your 64GB of installed memory, just add another two sticks to bump up to 128GB.

Not all motherboards are capable of running (with) more than 64GB of memory.

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Tom, as the OP is NOT running optimised applications just now he will NOT have a readme file.

My reference was to the read me files of the standard applications not the Lunatics Distro. I am sorry if I was not clear on that.

I am still running a Windows box with the standard Seti apps. And the readme files I was referencing are still there. So I pretty sure they should be there for the OP.

Tom

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Sorry Tom, - I've just done a quick test, and the stock apps do come with readme files. They then link out to the use of optimised applications, and give some hints as to the way the .xml files are structured. The vagueness of the instructions probably explains some of the questions that have been asked over the years as those hints are not very clear. And I don't think many of the options are explained, unlike the readme files with the installer which give good "starter for ten" templates for various GPU classes.

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Bob Smith
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So I suppose we need some FAQ someplace for good standard command lines for MB/AP for the range of lower AMD video cards. I am pretty sure one for the Vega 56 was posted over in Shaggy's gpu reports thread.

Tom

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That would be OK if every user visited them - the best place for the information is in the readme file, most of which for the (stock) apps are very poorly written and give no indication of the actual syntax required, and where the files should exist.

Edit to add:
Naturally any information in such files or FAQ should be accurate and maintained.

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Bob Smith
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That would be OK if every user visited them - the best place for the information is in the readme file, most of which for the (stock) apps are very poorly written and give no indication of the actual syntax required, and where the files should exist.

Edit to add:https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=84209
Naturally any information in such files or FAQ should be accurate and maintained.

I have started up an AMD commandline thread in number crunching. Since I am not part of the team that writes the Read Me files this is something I can do. Please add information as you are able.

Should this thread be located someplace else?

https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=84209

Can't get the url thingy to work today.

Tom

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Anyone can put forward a contribution to the FAQ & readme - you need to talk to the developers listed in the existing readme and take it from there.

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