I posit that those causing the current riots in the USA belong neither to "the left", "the right", or even "the centre" but to the neo-political grouping called "the thugs"..Such people are not actually interested in the true politics of the group they purport to support but only destroying the political groups that that group does not, politically, agree with. Normally their stated alignment is the opposite to that in power, but, at a moments notice, may switch if they perceive they can "have a better riot" by doing so.
I would further suggest that this grouping is actually present in most countries, that there is a hidden interchange of ideas on how to cause the "best riot" between similar groups across the globe and that this interchange does not follow the stated political leaning of the groups, but only that of the neo-politcal group "thugs".

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Bob Smith
Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society)
Somewhere in the (un)known Universe?

In your mind can you name a group that is not evil?

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Both the Left and Right cannot admit the truth of their evil and only attack the other's evil.

Yes, they are both the same.

A universally valid statement... The extreme left (or Antifas, communists, anarchists) and extreme right (or Nazis) exist in every free society. We cannot lock them up or destroy them. They enjoy the rights of the constitution while trampling it down. A society must keep their numbers as small as possible. The police or military cannot clean their heads. A convincing political program of a moderate government, be it liberal or conservative, is needed. If an overwhelming majority of the population at least accepts the broad lines of governance as reasonable while maintaining differing political views, it will keep the number of extremists small. Convincing, respectable MPs, mayors and politicians are needed - liberals and conservatives. Conservatives must neither try to be more progressive than the liberals (see German conservatives and the rise of an alt-right party). Likewise, they should not cultivate ultra-nationalism, claim the ultimate truth, or draw a line between 'us' and 'them'. Left-wing, social democrats, on the other hand, must resist the temptation of communist ideas. All of this disturbs significant parts of the population and drives some to one extreme. Every nation needs a sufficient large elite class that serves its country and its citizens while maintaining reason, decency and correct diplomatic manners. Then one can ignore the few hopeless extremists.

We Germans failed twice in this regard in the 20th century. But I am absolutely confident that the Americans will get through this as they have been doing for almost 250!! years.

Well.

People on dA LEFT are PUBLICLY ADMITTING and Very PROUD of Their BAILING OUT of ONEs Arrested.

If Rightists are Doing 'WholeSALE' BAILING OUT of ONEs Arrested, It's Not Making it to My NEWs.

SO.

Know of Any WELL Heeled RUBEs wif BUCKETs of BAIL MOOOLA? And Using 'IT' to 'WHOLESALE BAIL?

NOPE

Yep

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May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!!

Since you have labeled many groups evil can you label a group that is not evil?

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Yep, a confirmation of what I have been saying.

BTW: I do enjoy (my bad) reading your posts ;)

If that is true you should spend some time reading the thread.
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=73507

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So Beautamously GOoD. REAL GOoD.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/06/03/nolte-healthcare-slogan-were-here-for-you-stay-home-for-us-exposed-as-total-bs-2/

RUBEWorld Says:

Yep

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May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!!

More evidence that string theory is valid, commonly called an alternate universe or BS.

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Now here's our right wing P.M. in action for a bit of entertainment. ;-)

'Get off my lawn!' Homeowner interrupts Scott Morrison's homebuilder grants announcement.

Cheers.

Q: What borders on stupidity?

A: Mexico & Canada. :-)

I'll give you 10 points for that 1 Sirius. :-D

Meanwhile there are worries in the U.K..

UK diplomats fear end of special relationship if Trump re-elected.

Sir John Sawers, the former head of M16 and a former UK ambassador to the UN, also said Trump’s re-election would be problematic. “There is no doubt President Trump is the most difficult president for us to deal with,” he said.

“He does not really feel that sense of being part of that transatlantic community, he does not really believe in alliances. He does not really believe in American leadership in the world. We are seeing in this pandemic for the first time what a crisis is like without American leadership. It is the first time in our lifetime we have experienced that.

“If he gets elected for a second time some of the changes we have seen in the past few years will become embedded and entrenched and then, absolutely Britain will not be so much a bridge between the US and Europe. We will need to be bounding closely together with our European partners”.

But then again they're not the only country to feels that way.

Now, all these three great coalescences, this shrivelling up and vanishing of boundary lines, will be the outward and visible accompaniment of that inward and social reorganization which it is the main object of these Anticipations to display. I have sought to show that in peace and war alike a process has been and is at work, a process with all the inevitableness and all the patience of a natural force, whereby the great swollen, shapeless, hypertrophied social mass of to-day must give birth at last to a naturally and informally organized, educated class, an unprecedented sort of people, a New Republic dominating the world.

It will be none of our ostensible governments that will effect this great clearing up; it will be the mass of power and intelligence altogether outside the official state systems of to-day that will make this great clearance, a new social Hercules that will strangle the serpents of war and national animosity in his cradle.

Now, the more one descends from the open uplands of wide generalization to the parallel jungle of particulars, the more dangerous does the road of prophesying become, yet nevertheless there may be some possibility of speculating how, in the case of the English-speaking synthesis at least, this effective New Republic may begin visibly to shape itself out and appear.

It will appear first, I believe, as a conscious organization of intelligent and quite possibly in some cases wealthy men, as a movement having distinct social and political aims, confessedly ignoring most of the existing apparatus of political control, or using it only as an incidental implement in the attainment of these aims. It will be very loosely organized in its earlier stages, a mere movement of a number of people in a certain direction, who will presently discover with a sort of surprise the common object towards which they are all moving.

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H. G. Wells. Anticipations / Of the Reaction of Mechanical and Scientific Progress upon Human life and Thought

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May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!!

Right. Right as Rain My Man.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/06/08/nolte-saturdays-washington-dc-protest-was-a-big-flop/

Washed Away Down dA Anacostia and Potomac Rivas.

RUBEWorld Loves a Riva Run

Yep

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On Friday, 28 February 1986, Olof Palme, Prime Minister of Sweden, was fatally wounded by a single gunshot while walking home from a cinema with his wife Lisbet Palme on the central Stockholm street Sveavägen. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Olof_Palme Now, after 34 years, the murder weapon has been allegedly found. https://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/uppgifter-palmevapnet-ar-hittat
Chief Prosecutor Krister Petersson has previously promised technical evidence for this week's TV show "Crime of the Week". The "Palme Group" has been testing two weapons in recent years - weapons that most likely come from a now-deceased gun collector's collection, a person who was close friends with the "Skandia man" who died 20 years ago. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Skandia_man
Why do I think the Palme investigation only find dead herrings yet again?

Looks Like a Great Place Live. YOU?

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/06/10/seattle-protesters-issue-demands-abolish-police-grant-amnesty-give-free-health-care-and-college/

RUBEWorld RUBEs Thinkin' 'bout MOVin' to 'Autonomous' 'Zone' YOU?

YEP

Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right. ― George Orwell, 1984

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I Had NO IDEA hgWells Ever Said Anything Like Quoted Below.
Certainly dA CANCELCulture ifN they KNEW 'bout this, they would.......DISAPPEAR IT.

H. G. Wells. Anticipations / Of the Reaction of Mechanical and Scientific Progress upon Human life and Thought
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And the ethical system of these men of the New Republic, the ethical system which will dominate the world state, will be shaped primarily to favour the procreation of what is fine and efficient and beautiful in humanity— beautiful and strong bodies, clear and powerful minds, and a growing body of knowledge— and to check the procreation of base and servile types, of fear-driven and cowardly souls, of all that is mean and ugly and bestial in the souls, bodies, or habits of men. To do the latter is to do the former; the two things are inseparable. And the method that nature has followed hitherto in the shaping of the world, whereby weakness was prevented from propagating weakness, and cowardice and feebleness were saved from the accomplishment of their desires, the method that has only one alternative, the method that must in some cases still be called in to the help of man, is death. In the new vision death is no inexplicable horror, no pointless terminal terror to the miseries of life, it is the end of all the pain of life, the end of the bitterness of failure, the merciful obliteration of weak and silly and pointless things....

The new ethics will hold life to be a privilege and a responsibility, not a sort of night refuge for base spirits out of the void; and the alternative in right conduct between living fully, beautifully, and efficiently will be to die. For a multitude of contemptible and silly creatures, fear-driven and helpless and useless, unhappy or hatefully happy in the midst of squalid dishonour, feeble, ugly, inefficient, born of unrestrained lusts, and increasing and multiplying through sheer incontinence and stupidity, the men of the New Republic will have little pity and less benevolence. To make life convenient for the breeding of such people will seem to them not the most virtuous and amiable thing in the world, as it is held to be now, but an exceedingly abominable proceeding. Procreation is an avoidable thing for sane persons of even the most furious passions, and the men of the New Republic will hold that the procreation of children who, by the circumstances of their parentage, must be diseased bodily or mentally— I do not think it will be difficult for the medical science of the coming time to define such circumstances— is absolutely the most loathsome of all conceivable sins. They will hold, I anticipate, that a certain portion of the population— the small minority, for example, afflicted with indisputably transmissible diseases, with transmissible mental disorders, with such hideous incurable habits of mind as the craving for intoxication— exists only on sufferance, out of pity and patience, and on the understanding that they do not propagate; and I do not foresee any reason to suppose that they will hesitate to kill when that sufferance is abused. And I imagine also the plea and proof that a grave criminal is also insane will be regarded by them not as a reason for mercy, but as an added reason for death. I do not see how they can think otherwise on the principles they will profess.

The men of the New Republic will not be squeamish, either, in facing or inflicting death, because they will have a fuller sense of the possibilities of life than we possess. They will have an ideal that will make killing worth the while; like Abraham, they will have the faith to kill, and they will have no superstitions about death. They will naturally regard the modest suicide of incurably melancholy, or diseased or helpless persons as a high and courageous act of duty rather than a crime. And since they will regard, as indeed all men raised above a brutish level do regard, a very long term of imprisonment as infinitely worse than death, as being, indeed, death with a living misery added to its natural terror, they will, I conceive, where the whole tenor of a man's actions, and not simply some incidental or impulsive action, seems to prove him unfitted for free life in the world, consider him carefully, and condemn him, and remove him from being. All such killing will be done with an opiate, for death is too grave a thing to be made painful or dreadful, and used as a deterrent from crime. If deterrent punishments are used at all in the code of the future, the deterrent will neither be death, nor mutilation of the body, nor mutilation of the life by imprisonment, nor any horrible things like that, but good scientifically caused pain, that will leave nothing but a memory. Yet even the memory of overwhelming pain is a sort of mutilation of the soul.

The idea that only those who are fit to live freely in an orderly world-state should be permitted to live, is entirely against the use of deterrent punishments at all. Against outrageous conduct to children or women, perhaps, or for very cowardly or brutal assaults of any sort, the men of the future may consider pain a salutary remedy, at least during the ages of transition while the brute is still at large. But since most acts of this sort done under conditions that neither torture nor exasperate, point to an essential vileness in the perpetrator, I am inclined to think that even in these cases the men of the coming time will be far less disposed to torture than to kill. They will have another aspect to consider. The conscious infliction of pain for the sake of the pain is against the better nature of man, and it is unsafe and demoralizing for any one to undertake this duty. To kill under the seemly conditions science will afford is a far less offensive thing. The rulers of the future will grudge making good people into jailers, warders, punishment-dealers, nurses, and attendants on the bad. People who cannot live happily and freely in the world without spoiling the lives of others are better out of it. That is a current sentiment even to-day, but the men of the New Republic will have the courage of their opinions.
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H. G. Wells. Anticipations / Of the Reaction of Mechanical and Scientific Progress upon Human life and Thought
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RUBEWorld GO'in "HGW -WatDaHeck Man?

Yep

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Faux news caught with its pants around it ankles.

Well they to have to pander to their right wing and far right wing nutter audience as well as old #BunkerBoy himself.

Another shooting by the far right second amendment types.

blamed the far-right New Mexico Civil Guard, whose members were carrying firearms
"We are receiving reports about vigilante groups possibly instigating this violence," Police Chief Michael Geier was quoted in a department tweet as saying. "If this is true will be holding them accountable to the fullest extent of the law, including federal hate group designation and prosecution."
"The individuals were disarmed and taken into custody," the police said in a tweet.
In a statement, Albuquerque Mayor Tim Keller called the shooting "a tragic, outrageous and unacceptable act of violence and it has no place in our city." "Our diverse community will not be deterred by acts meant to divide or silence us," he said.
In another statement, New Mexico's Democratic Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham acknowledged that "we are still learning more about the situation," but said "the heavily armed individuals who flaunted themselves at the protest, calling themselves a 'civil guard,' were there for one reason: To menace protesters, to present an unsanctioned show of unregulated force."

Another shooting by the far right second amendment types.

blamed the far-right New Mexico Civil Guard, whose members were carrying firearms
"We are receiving reports about vigilante groups possibly instigating this violence," Police Chief Michael Geier was quoted in a department tweet as saying. "If this is true will be holding them accountable to the fullest extent of the law, including federal hate group designation and prosecution."
"The individuals were disarmed and taken into custody," the police said in a tweet.
In a statement, Albuquerque Mayor Tim Keller called the shooting "a tragic, outrageous and unacceptable act of violence and it has no place in our city." "Our diverse community will not be deterred by acts meant to divide or silence us," he said.
In another statement, New Mexico's Democratic Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham acknowledged that "we are still learning more about the situation," but said "the heavily armed individuals who flaunted themselves at the protest, calling themselves a 'civil guard,' were there for one reason: To menace protesters, to present an unsanctioned show of unregulated force."

The million's of Second Amendment "types" are vigilantes ?

Those accusing millions of what a few do are...

They do it very dramatically , political theater?

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