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Message 2144861 - Posted: 5 Jan 2025, 22:14:15 UTC - in response to Message 2144856.  

We all live in a beautiful world...

Why ignore it?

Why spoil it?!

By covering it in solar panels and wind farms.

Or industrially digging it up or pumping it dry or covering it up in pollution...

How do we save ourselves from ourselves?...

Los Angeles, Drill baby Drill!
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Message 2144863 - Posted: 5 Jan 2025, 22:26:16 UTC - in response to Message 2144861.  

... A good reminder of NOT the solution...


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Message 2144868 - Posted: 6 Jan 2025, 0:46:07 UTC - in response to Message 2144863.  

... A good reminder of NOT the solution...
It has to organically cost more than another method. If it doesn't then nothing changes. Don't delude yourself that taxes can change the cost, think about smuggling and fraud.
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Message 2145302 - Posted: 17 Jan 2025, 11:45:41 UTC

Indications battery storage might not be the solution.

Fire at one of the world’s largest battery plants in California forces evacuations
MOSS LANDING, Calif. (AP) — Hundreds of people were ordered to evacuate and part of Highway 1 in Northern California was closed after a major fire erupted at one of the world’s largest battery storage plants.

The fire started Thursday afternoon and sent up towering flames and black smoke, and about 1,500 people were instructed to leave Moss Landing and the Elkhorn Slough area, The Mercury News reported. It showed no sign of easing by Thursday night.

The Moss Landing Power Plant, located about 77 miles (about 124 kilometers) south of San Francisco, is owned by Texas-company Vistra Energy and contains tens of thousands of lithium batteries. The batteries are important for storing electricity from such renewable energy sources as solar energy, but if they go up in flames the blazes can be extremely difficult to put out.

“There’s no way to sugar coat it. This is a disaster, is what it is,” Monterey County Supervisor Glenn Church told KSBW-TV. But he said he did not expect the fire to spread beyond the concrete building it was enclosed in.
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Message 2145303 - Posted: 17 Jan 2025, 12:53:40 UTC - in response to Message 2145302.  

Indications battery storage might not be the solution.
Mankind did not come to this conclusion when the first jetliners (e.g. DH.106 Comet) crashed, killing dozens, due to unknown reasons.

Large oil storage facilities are dangerous as are refineries. It seems over time people learned how to mitigate fire hazards.

Would be interesting to know the basic setup of this battery plant. The (surely much smaller) battery plants which our transmission grid operator builds up here are placed in dozens of ISO containers, placed on concrete foundations with a significant safety distance between.

Another example: multiple large transformers in substations are typically separated by concrete walls between to stop a fire from spreading to nearby transformers.
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Message 2145306 - Posted: 17 Jan 2025, 13:59:09 UTC - in response to Message 2145302.  

Indications battery storage might not be the solution.
https://www.scmp.com/news/world/united-states-canada/article/3295145/los-angeles-burning-teslas-add-toxic-mix-pollution-delaying-return-fire-evacuees
As the smoke clears from devastating Los Angeles wildfires, efforts to clean up the affected areas are being complicated by burnt-out electric and hybrid vehicles and home-battery storage systems.
Lithium batteries from Tesla, along with those from other carmakers, have added to the mix of toxic materials requiring specialised removal in the wake of the fires. They will delay the fire victims’ return to their properties.
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Message 2145487 - Posted: 21 Jan 2025, 14:56:48 UTC
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Way to go:


France's 2024 Electricity Production Hits 95%...
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In 2024, France achieved a record level of low-carbon electricity production, reaching 95% of its total electricity output ... driven by a rapid recovery in nuclear power and a record high in renewable energy production...

... Renewable energy sources contributed 27.6% of the total...

... Conversely, fossil fuel-based electricity production dropped to its lowest level since the early 1950s ... falling below solar production for the first time.


China's Installed Renewables Achieved Yet Another Record in 2024
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China broke its own record in installing renewable power in 2024, as the world’s top polluter continues to push its energy transition while the US shifts away from fighting climate change...

... The world’s second-largest economy added roughly 277 gigawatts of solar last year... It also added nearly 80 gigawatts of wind...

... The record installation means China has hit its 2030 renewables target six years early...


Solar farms are booming in the US and putting thousands of hungry sheep to work
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... 900 megawatts of power across 4,000 acres (1,618 hectares).

How do they manage all that grass? With the help of about 3,000 sheep, which are better suited than lawnmowers to fit between small crevices and chew away rain or shine.

The proliferation of sheep on solar farms is part of a broader trend — solar grazing — that has exploded alongside the solar industry.

Agrivoltaics, a method using land for both solar energy production and agriculture, is on the rise...




What a good idea!

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Message 2145491 - Posted: 21 Jan 2025, 15:09:02 UTC

This looks like good fun! Especially for progressive motorbikers!!


Aptera Says Its $40,000 Solar-Powered EV Is Finally Coming This Year. Should You Believe It?


Spectacular... Even if a little pricey.

Ideal for cruising along the long distance roads in the sun?


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Message 2145503 - Posted: 21 Jan 2025, 20:31:45 UTC - in response to Message 2145491.  

Ideal for cruising along the long distance roads in the sun?
Ehh... Martin... I don't know where you live, but I see this Union Jack below your non-existant Avatar. So... ehm... okay.... How to express this politely?

An old friend of mine, after visiting the UK for the first time, once claimed: The next time I'm going to visit England will be as soon as this whole country is completely outfitted with roofs.
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Message 2145505 - Posted: 21 Jan 2025, 21:35:40 UTC - in response to Message 2145487.  

China broke its own record in installing renewable power in 2024, as the world’s top polluter continues to push its energy transition while the US shifts away from fighting climate change...
There is one problem with that:

'Fighting climate change' or 'energy transition' is not about installing renewables but about reducing CO2 emissions. The yearly numbers for the US are decreasing, lately below 1970s figures while the numbers for China, India, etc. are increasing fast, due to a rising demand for electricity, dozens of new coal power plants each year, transport, ... China alone emits more CO2 than the entire Western hemisphere (countries west of Greenwich). The propagated Green Deal in the West often means shutting down efficient (but still CO2 intensive) production and replacing it with imports from China (e.g. steel). That's Greenwashing.

It seems that Donald Trump expressed an unwanted truth and pulled out of a non-expedient agreement. That's bad, isn't it? We will witness further such decisions. WHO, UNRWA, ... [off-topic].

If agreements don't solve a global problem it's adviced to improve them. Instead a (now even smaller) minority tries it alone and is nevertheless convinced to finally solve the global problem, no matter the costs, if one just firmly believe in it.

Source: (configurable diagram: countries, start/end years)
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Message 2146430 - Posted: 14 Feb 2025, 9:43:07 UTC

The steam train that could power the future, BBC video

A train which is powered purely on hydrogen is now undergoing tests with those behind it hoping it could help move the industry away from fossil fuels.
The former Thameslink locomotive has been converted in Warwickshire and now only produces water as an emission.
The company behind the project hopes the train could be a cheaper alternative for railway lines which cannot be electrified.
Tests are being carried out on routes in Warwickshire, Worcestershire and the West Midlands ahead of potential future commercial uses.
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Message 2146434 - Posted: 14 Feb 2025, 12:48:32 UTC - in response to Message 2146430.  
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Thanks for that...


... Except that hydrogen is ridiculously wasteful and expensive and it is an excellent excuse to burn more oil to produce the hydrogen...


Far more efficient is to use ammonia as a convenient fuel.

Better yet, good solutions using batteries and rapid charging at the stops at stations are already available...


Is the hydrogen merely a profitable greenwash campaign to keep the dirty old oil people greedy with their profits a little while longer?


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