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W-K 666 ![]() Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 17478 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 ![]() ![]() |
For the time being, we're a long way away from that yet... With the time it takes to do major infrastructure changes the the time between now and when Boris has said we will all go electric is not long. In fact it is very short. Give me a time frame for when every street in the country where there is no off-road parking and outside multistory dwellings, for the electricity distribution companies to install two charge points for every ten houses. |
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For the time being, we're a long way away from that yet... That's the easy part. Connecting them to the grid so all of them can be in use at once is the tricky part. Every power cable will have to be replaced with one say three times the diameter to carry the power. Every transformer in the country will need to be replaced with one with three times the power rating. Every bank of reactance capacitors will need to be replaced. Where power is underground new raceways will have to be dug. Where overhead, stronger telephone poles will be needed. Doing anything more that a cosmetic political feel good stunt is a project akin to taking a civilian economy and transforming it into a wartime economy. |
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We do at least seem to be getting towards good clean power systems How many Power Plants have you been in? I worked in them. Coal and Nuke. I Breathed Big Gobs of Air and Never Coughed or Choked. Was Like sitting in front of my TV at Home. FRESH Beautamous Air. You Know when I CHOKE and COUGH. When I'm Outside my House and A Car goes by or a Person Goes by with CIG Smoke Billowing Out of Car Windows and Passerby Lungs. I've CHOKED and COUGHED 100s of Thousands of Times because of CIG and CIGAR Smoke. NEVER while at POWER PLANT. Turbine Floor to Top of Boilers and All About dA Pipe Racks. Clean and Fresh Baby! You Know Nothing of Clean Power. I've Breathed it Many Many Many Times. You? Don't judge Fossil Fuels by a Few instances of a Nearby Terribly UNTuned Vehicle spewing UNBurnt fuel out Exhaust Pipe. Once it Blows by it is Back to Beautamous Air Again. You might as Well GET RID of ALL FORESTs and BUILDINGs 'cause of Forest Fires. Nope Yep ![]() May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!! ![]() |
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For the time being, we're a long way away from that yet... Agreed, except it is quite that bad... There is already new infrastructure being put in place in anticipation of requiring a more distributed/localized system for power capacity. We have a large number of newly installed local generation plant that are a few 10's of MWatt, remotely controlled, for very short peak power smoothing. It's not much of a stretch to also add power storage to those sites. Note that we have an interconnected grid supply system. New capacity is merely a case of incrementally adding additional capacity as needed with new additional equipment. The existing infrastructure remains in place or is repurposed to supply a smaller distribution area to stay within capacity. So, yes, we'll need some upgrades. The question there is who pays and how, and who grabs the profits from the improvements... All on our only one planet, Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
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We do at least seem to be getting towards good clean power systems Yes indeed, a well run power plant is beautifully clean in the control room and the engineering hall. Very good for the equipment and for maintenance to have everything clean. The problem is with what is spewed out of the smoke stack into the sky... And on an unimaginable industrial sky-high scale that is just unimaginable. There are better ways to generate power without burning our planet. All on our only one planet, Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
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There are better ways to generate power without burning our planet. ![]() |
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This one has been long awaited for making a big positive splash: World's most powerful tidal turbine : Launched April 2021 wrote: ... a jumbo jet sized floating platform supporting two large turbines has been launched off the coast of Scotland, providing new hope for a potentially influential industry... Note especially: Mark wrote: The beauty of this in GB, is that the time of slack water moves around the coast with the tide, so with multiple units, there is no time when there is zero production. Way to go! Sooner rather than too late? All on our only one planet, Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
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The beauty of this in GB, is that the time of slack water moves around the coast with the tide, so with multiple units, there is no time when there is zero production.Ah yes, brand new fat power cables all over to move this power around. |
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Or do we really need any power cables at all?The beauty of this in GB, is that the time of slack water moves around the coast with the tide, so with multiple units, there is no time when there is zero production.Ah yes, brand new fat power cables all over to move this power around. The Australian inventions that could change the world. Until now, the storage of power generated by rooftop solar has been provided by lithium batteries like Tesla’s Powerwall, but Australians have now developed an alternative that uses cutting-edge hydrogen technology instead.[edit] I'm not so sure about the lower front edges on that electric motorbike in that link though. Cheers. |
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Another bright and obvious step in a better and brighter direction: Halogen lightbulb sales to be banned in UK under climate change plans wrote: Sales of halogen lightbulbs are to be banned in the UK from September, with fluorescent lights to follow, under government climate change plans. A good bright way to go! All on our only one planet, Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
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Most of my lights are LED but they are not a satisfactory answer for everything. Places where heat comes into play such as my wall oven and the hood over my cooktop melt the plastic internals and the LED bulbs fail quite rapidly. |
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That's an understandable problem for a retro-fit for that use. That's where new designs are needed for those high temperature uses that instead use such as light pipes so that the LEDs can be kept out of the oven/hob heat. Easily done for newer appliances. Meanwhile, I wonder if "cold cathode" florescents would be a good alternative retrofit for that niche...? All on our only one planet, Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
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Roll up, roll up, for a bombshell story: University of East Anglia 'Climategate' scandal to be turned into film wrote: The "Climategate" computer hacking scandal that rocked the scientific world is to be made into a BBC film. That looks like a compelling film about intertwined compelling real world events... Here's hoping the publicity does some good to make for some good positive progress... All on our only one planet, Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
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Absolutely beautiful solution to climate change. Totally doable today! Thanks for that. Wow! All on this planet???! Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
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Well, someone (Putin and/or Xi Jinping ), have obviously found a way to moronize lots of Republican politicians, and voters. |
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Just to keep people artfully reminded: Tankers and Transit vans sculpted into steel forests wrote: Artist Dan Rawlings has transformed a petrol tanker from a functional vehicle carrying fossil fuels into a work of intricate industrial beauty, with a message about the power of nature... Beautifully done. To what effect? A part of the art?? All on our only one planet, Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
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Getting Global Warming into the news and onto social media: Climate change: Stripes campaign 'started conversations' wrote: A campaign to visualise climate change has "started millions of conversations", its creator has said. Simple. Effective. Very real. More needed. Positive action needed! All immediately on our only one planet, now, Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
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The UK breezes ahead with wind power: Wind turbines: How UK wants to become 'Saudi Arabia of wind' wrote: ... Danish renewable energy giant Orsted has installed about half of the UK's offshore wind capacity. At the moment, the UK electricity is powered mainly by wind, gas, and nuclear imports from France. The gas usage is further reduced by a good chunk of solar power, old UK nuclear power, and some controversial 'biomass' burning (using wood pellets from the USA transported by very dirty fossil fuels...). A very small number of coal fired power stations are maintained as emergency capacity backup for peak usage during extreme weather (such as during winter). Continuing, we need to speed up the roll out of tidal stream power and energy storage systems (batteries and a good healthy mix of others). Here's hoping that the dirty old fossils don't cause too much vandalism with their lobbying to very expensively try their holy grail of "Carbon Capture Sequestration". Why make an expensive mess with dirty old fossils to then only have to even more expensively clean it up afterwards?! Let's go clean and healthy for everyone! All on our only one planet, Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
W-K 666 ![]() Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 17478 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 ![]() ![]() |
Where's the power generation being built to power the all electric vehicles we will be using in the next decade. 33 million cars doing 8,000 miles/year needing 4kWh/mile. Plus the same for buses, trucks and vans. |
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