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ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21227 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Just one small idea to clean up a lot of everlasting waste and pollution and to reduce our use of dirty old fossils: YouTube - TED: A radical plan to end plastic waste | Andrew Forrest wrote: Plastic is an incredible substance for the economy -- and the worst substance possible for the environment... Really, can we get the buy-in to shift the tipping point to eliminate all fossil-fueled plastic? I suspect that all that is needed is the removal of the subsidies that fuel (mis)using old oil... All on our only one planet, Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19401 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
How dirty is mining and refining it? Follow up, A once-powerful Montana mining town warily awaits final cleanup of its toxic past A 2006 photo taken from space of Butte, Mont., and the surrounding region shows the dark waters of the Berkeley Pit, center, and the growing parameters of the terraced Continental Pit copper mine, upper right. The big blue-gray area on the left is the Yankee Doodle Tailings pond, which holds waste from the Continental Pit behind a 750-foot-high dam. (NASA) The Berkeley Pit, a toxic vestige of copper mining in Butte, Mont., is the centerpiece of the nation’s largest Superfund complex. Further cleanup of it and other sites in the city has been under negotiation for years. (Janie Osborne for The Washington Post) |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19401 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
I'll take this one with a pinch of salt, until they work out the technology. BBC - Climate change: Fertiliser could be used to power ocean-going ships |
bloodrain Send message Joined: 8 Dec 08 Posts: 231 Credit: 28,112,547 RAC: 1 |
i also want to point a fuel waste that people don't talk about. straight roads/rails. we have to make them with bends and twist. if you added that up its millions of miles of wasted time and fual we burn. if we can get ai t take over that part we pollute a lot less. |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21227 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
i also want to point a fuel waste that people don't talk about. No 'AI' needed... The Romans showed us how to make straight roads and a designed integrated road network, all over 2000 years ago! What happened since then?... All a wasteful game of short-termism and corrupt greedy profit and our world be damned?... All on our only one planet, Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21227 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Not a solution but another nudge in a better direction?... Climate campaigners win Heathrow expansion case wrote: ... The government's decision to allow the expansion was [judged] unlawful because it did not take climate commitments into account, the Court of Appeal said. A hard won case with interesting ripples for the rest of the world to follow... All on our only one planet, Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19401 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
i also want to point a fuel waste that people don't talk about. Yes the Romans did build straight roads. But usually only where it could be done easily, in most cases the roads take the line of least resistance and minimal cost. They also built walls around the city center and ensured the gates were not opposite each other. This had the effect of restricting the winds that blew through and all the harm high winds can cause. |
bloodrain Send message Joined: 8 Dec 08 Posts: 231 Credit: 28,112,547 RAC: 1 |
the reason why we have them now and their not straight.. we found out the hard way. is it makes people sleepy. if you driving straight . this was all the way back in the 40 and 50s |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21227 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Not a solution but another nudge in a better direction?... One small immediate local ripple is: New roads face Heathrow-style court action threat wrote: Plans for a £28.8bn roads programme could be challenged in the courts for breaching the UK's laws on climate change. All on our only one planet, Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21227 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Greta keeps the political pressure updated: Greta Thunberg Bristol climate strike: 'The world is on fire' wrote: Greta Thunberg has warned "those in power" she will "not be silenced when the world is on fire". ... But will those with the power to act usefully and positively be motivated to take positive action?... All on our only one planet, Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21227 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Is this a good idea?... Free transport in Luxembourg, but what's the cost? wrote: ... With a population of only 614,000, it may be one of Europe's smallest countries and the idea is not unprecedented. All on our only one planet, Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
M60 Send message Joined: 20 Feb 20 Posts: 1 Credit: 26,203 RAC: 1 |
I kinda doubt it.... They haven't even lifted a little finger so far. |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19401 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
We need more idea's like this, NYT - Down on the Farm That Harvests Metal From Plants Some of Earth’s plants have fallen in love with metal. With roots that act practically like magnets, these organisms — about 700 are known — flourish in metal-rich soils that make hundreds of thousands of other plant species flee or die. |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21227 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
At last, a total myth-busting of one of the fossils' promoted all-too-often-repeated propaganda: Electric car emissions myth 'busted' wrote: Fears that electric cars could actually increase carbon emissions are a damaging myth, new research shows. More of a question is whether we can go clean enough and soon enough... All a question of political will and corruption? All on our only one planet, Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21227 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
This makes for a very interesting comparison: Coronavirus: Lockdown prompts clear fall in UK air pollution wrote: Air pollution has started to fall in many UK cities in response to the lockdown measures introduced as a result of the coronavirus crisis. Indeed, can that continue with our 'newly discovered ways' of not commuting to work?... Can that continue yet further by removing the need for (destructively unsustainable) perpetual financial growth? All on our only one planet, Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31010 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Can that continue yet further by removing the need for (destructively unsustainable) perpetual financial growth?NO. No one has yet shown a business model that is sustainable in contraction. All of them seem to require expansion. More population, consuming ever more goods. When there are periods of contraction, they are called things like "The Great Depression." They simply are not long term solutions. While there are a few examples around to prove the rule, we tend to call these examples "Indigenous Peoples." |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14679 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
Then we need to switch to a social - societal - model which isn't dominated by the needs of business. Business should serve the people, not the other way round.Can that continue yet further by removing the need for (destructively unsustainable) perpetual financial growth?NO. No one has yet shown a business model that is sustainable in contraction. |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21227 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Despite the cringe worthy news title, this is a very good advancement to run with: 'Bath sponge' breakthrough could boost cleaner cars wrote: A new material developed, by scientists could give a significant boost to a new generation of hydrogen-powered cars. All on our only one planet, Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21227 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Quickly going clean, all by natural forces: Wind Blows By Coal To Become Iowa's Largest Source of Electricity wrote: ... Iowa is now generating more than 10,000 megawatts of wind energy, accounting for more than 40% of the state's electricity. Wind became the leading source of electricity in both Iowa and Kansas this year... Way to go, cleanly away from coal. And all despite ridiculous corrupt politics... All on our only one planet, Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24912 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
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