Climate Change, 'Greenhouse' effects and Politics: DENIAL (#5)

Message boards : Politics : Climate Change, 'Greenhouse' effects and Politics: DENIAL (#5)
Message board moderation

To post messages, you must log in.

Previous · 1 · 2 · 3 · 4 · 5 · 6 . . . 17 · Next

AuthorMessage
Sirius B Project Donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 26 Dec 00
Posts: 24613
Credit: 3,081,182
RAC: 7
Ireland
Message 1999137 - Posted: 22 Jun 2019, 6:34:29 UTC

Send bachelors & well armed
Only in America. :-)
ID: 1999137 · Report as offensive
Profile Wiggo
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 24 Jan 00
Posts: 28449
Credit: 261,360,520
RAC: 489
Australia
Message 1999139 - Posted: 22 Jun 2019, 6:42:06 UTC

Oh dear, another badly titled link. :-(

I'm sorry Sirius, but it's like watching Clyde in reverse when you do that.
ID: 1999139 · Report as offensive
Sirius B Project Donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 26 Dec 00
Posts: 24613
Credit: 3,081,182
RAC: 7
Ireland
Message 1999141 - Posted: 22 Jun 2019, 6:48:01 UTC - in response to Message 1999139.  

Read the article.
ID: 1999141 · Report as offensive
Profile Wiggo
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 24 Jan 00
Posts: 28449
Credit: 261,360,520
RAC: 489
Australia
Message 1999143 - Posted: 22 Jun 2019, 7:09:05 UTC - in response to Message 1999141.  

Read the article.
I'm sorry, but I did, about 10-12hrs ago and if you'd had used the proper news title instead I wouldn't have wasted my time going there and I may of instead wasted time posting my own opinion . :-D

But you do tend to kill/murder the links that you post by adding your own titles to them. :-(

Cheers.
ID: 1999143 · Report as offensive
Sirius B Project Donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 26 Dec 00
Posts: 24613
Credit: 3,081,182
RAC: 7
Ireland
Message 1999145 - Posted: 22 Jun 2019, 7:39:43 UTC - in response to Message 1999143.  

Okay, I'll explain so that even a layman can understand.
Politicians gather to vote on bills/laws that their citizens are required to obey if passed into law. Reasonable one would think.
What message was being sent here?
Politicians whose job it is to govern avoiding their responsibilities, & paid to do so by those citizens, evading said responsibilities, hearing that police have been tasked to pull them in, state "Make sure they're bachelors & well armed".
Therefore, I cannot see what your problem is with the title of the link.
With "people" like that governing, no wonder the world is in a mess.
ID: 1999145 · Report as offensive
Profile Gary Charpentier Crowdfunding Project Donor*Special Project $75 donorSpecial Project $250 donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 25 Dec 00
Posts: 29530
Credit: 53,134,872
RAC: 32
United States
Message 1999169 - Posted: 22 Jun 2019, 14:13:23 UTC - in response to Message 1999145.  

With "people" like that governing, no wonder the world is in a mess.
Gideon J. Tucker wrote:
No man's life, liberty, or property are safe while the legislature is in session.
ID: 1999169 · Report as offensive
Profile ML1
Volunteer moderator
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 25 Nov 01
Posts: 17093
Credit: 7,508,002
RAC: 20
United Kingdom
Message 1999229 - Posted: 22 Jun 2019, 22:24:51 UTC - in response to Message 1999137.  
Last modified: 22 Jun 2019, 22:27:24 UTC

Send bachelors & well armed
Only in America. :-)

As detailed on the SOLUTIONS thread:


Incredible! Despicable. Pathetic.

So the Republicans run to the hills rather than save our only one planet.

AND DEMAND GUNS wielded by MAD GUNG-HO BACHELORS to add to the American stupidity?!!! Are those pathetic idiots for real??!!!

All badly greedily corrupt?...


All on our only one planet,
Martin

ps: Sirius, your titles are misleading enough as to be annoyingly counterproductive...
See new freedom: Mageia Linux
Take a look for yourself: Linux Format
The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3)
ID: 1999229 · Report as offensive
Profile Mr. Kevvy Crowdfunding Project Donor*Special Project $250 donor
Volunteer moderator
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 15 May 99
Posts: 3659
Credit: 1,114,826,392
RAC: 3,319
Canada
Message 1999237 - Posted: 22 Jun 2019, 22:59:44 UTC
Last modified: 22 Jun 2019, 23:15:37 UTC

Meanwhile in India, the predictions of the effects keep coming true...

Four reservoirs, which supply Chennai's water, have almost run dry. And the groundwater levels have dropped drastically over the years.
"Because the level of water in the reservoirs has gone down, and due to less rainfall ... a drinking water problem has arisen in Chennai," said Edappadi K. Palaniswami, chief minister of Tamil Nadu Friday.
...
The shortage in India's sixth largest city is symbolic of a crisis that is being felt across a country battling with one of its longest heatwaves, which has killed at least 137 people.
India has been inching closer to a debilitating water crisis for months. With poor water management and unsupervised groundwater extraction, experts said that 600 million of India's 1.3 billion people are facing acute water shortage.
According to a report released by Niti Aayog -- a government-run think tank -- 21 major cities including New Delhi will run out of groundwater by 2020.
"This crisis is further driven by a poorly defined legal framework for groundwater that rests ownership with landowners and leads to unchecked extraction. This crisis is most acute in the Indian agriculture sector, where groundwater accounts for 63% of all irrigation water," states the report.


Chennai is on the coast of the Bay of Bengal... I hope that they have sense enough to plan for the future and build a desalination plant.
ID: 1999237 · Report as offensive
Profile Gary Charpentier Crowdfunding Project Donor*Special Project $75 donorSpecial Project $250 donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 25 Dec 00
Posts: 29530
Credit: 53,134,872
RAC: 32
United States
Message 1999245 - Posted: 22 Jun 2019, 23:40:22 UTC - in response to Message 1999229.  
Last modified: 22 Jun 2019, 23:41:26 UTC

Send bachelors & well armed
Only in America. :-)

As detailed on the SOLUTIONS thread:


Incredible! Despicable. Pathetic.

So the Republicans run to the hills rather than save our only one planet.

AND DEMAND GUNS wielded by MAD GUNG-HO BACHELORS to add to the American stupidity?!!! Are those pathetic idiots for real??!!!

All badly greedily corrupt?...

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-climatechange-oregon/oregon-capitol-building-closed-as-precaution-amid-partisan-dispute-idUSKCN1TN0PS
Some right-wing militia groups have expressed support for the absent Republican lawmakers
“We have been monitoring information throughout the day that indicates the safety of legislators, staff and citizen visitors could be compromised if certain threatened behaviors were realized,” said Oregon State Police spokesman Captain Timothy Fox said by email.
In a “call to action” on Thursday, a militia group known as Oregon Three Percent said it would provide security, transport and refuge for the absent Republican senators.
“We will stand together with unwavering resolve, doing whatever it takes to keep these senators safe,” the group said on its Facebook page.

Isn't a call for an armed overthrow of the government actionable?
ID: 1999245 · Report as offensive
Sirius B Project Donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 26 Dec 00
Posts: 24613
Credit: 3,081,182
RAC: 7
Ireland
Message 1999284 - Posted: 23 Jun 2019, 9:04:19 UTC - in response to Message 1999229.  

Send bachelors & well armed
Only in America. :-)

As detailed on the SOLUTIONS thread:
AND DEMAND GUNS wielded by MAD GUNG-HO BACHELORS to add to the American stupidity?!!! Are those pathetic idiots for real??!!!ps: Sirius, your titles are misleading enough as to be annoyingly counterproductive...
Not a solution but a denial, so what was it doing in that thread?
Also, your statements can also be misleading where the underlined is concerned.
A State Senator "requesting" that the police "make sure" that the officers that come for him should be well armed & bachelors is how I read that statement. Am I wrong to do so?
For those complaining about my link titles, Why now? Got an itch you can't scratch?
ID: 1999284 · Report as offensive
Profile ML1
Volunteer moderator
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 25 Nov 01
Posts: 17093
Credit: 7,508,002
RAC: 20
United Kingdom
Message 1999287 - Posted: 23 Jun 2019, 11:59:56 UTC - in response to Message 1999284.  
Last modified: 23 Jun 2019, 12:06:38 UTC

Send bachelors & well armed
Only in America. :-)

...
AND DEMAND GUNS wielded by MAD GUNG-HO BACHELORS to add to the American stupidity?!!! Are those pathetic idiots for real??!!!...

...
A State Senator "requesting" that the police "make sure" that the officers that come for him should be well armed & bachelors is how I read that statement.
...

Yes. Amazing.

Is that/those "State Senator/s" so lost behind the times that he/they is/are living in some fanciful John Wayne Wild West TV show?...

That is certainly not reality, and sets a bad and desperate and pathetic example.



All in out only one world,
Martin
See new freedom: Mageia Linux
Take a look for yourself: Linux Format
The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3)
ID: 1999287 · Report as offensive
Profile ML1
Volunteer moderator
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 25 Nov 01
Posts: 17093
Credit: 7,508,002
RAC: 20
United Kingdom
Message 1999288 - Posted: 23 Jun 2019, 12:00:30 UTC - in response to Message 1999284.  
Last modified: 24 Jun 2019, 14:06:44 UTC

For those complaining about my link titles, Why now?...

Benefit of positive doubt until those link titles now look more like click-bait rather than anything meaningful...


Keep searchin',
Martin
See new freedom: Mageia Linux
Take a look for yourself: Linux Format
The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3)
ID: 1999288 · Report as offensive
Profile ML1
Volunteer moderator
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 25 Nov 01
Posts: 17093
Credit: 7,508,002
RAC: 20
United Kingdom
Message 1999289 - Posted: 23 Jun 2019, 12:03:34 UTC - in response to Message 1999284.  
Last modified: 24 Jun 2019, 14:31:21 UTC

Send bachelors & well armed
Only in America. :-)

As detailed on the SOLUTIONS thread:
AND DEMAND GUNS wielded by MAD GUNG-HO BACHELORS to add to the American stupidity?!!! Are those pathetic idiots for real??!!!
...
Not a solution but a denial, so what was it doing in that thread?...

The main emphasis should be how the majority of State Senators are voting FOR measures to combat climate pollution. Hence for being in the SOLUTION thread.

The pathetic few runaways should be an irrelevant aside... Except for their quorum maneuver...

Really, are those Republicans so desperate or so corrupt as to bring their administration down into disrepute?



Only in America?

All in our only one world,
Martin
See new freedom: Mageia Linux
Take a look for yourself: Linux Format
The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3)
ID: 1999289 · Report as offensive
Profile ML1
Volunteer moderator
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 25 Nov 01
Posts: 17093
Credit: 7,508,002
RAC: 20
United Kingdom
Message 1999422 - Posted: 24 Jun 2019, 15:54:36 UTC
Last modified: 24 Jun 2019, 15:55:34 UTC

Meanwhile, this is yet another example of what will become an ever more likely occurrence as we continue to pollute our planet ever further:


France 40C heatwave could break June records

... Temperatures are expected to reach 35 degrees or more on Monday, and climb even further until the peak on Thursday and Friday...

... Temporary fountains have been put in place and public pools will stay open later as part of an extreme heat plan. Water will also be distributed and a care plan will be put in effect for vulnerable people including the elderly, as high humidity will make 40C feel like 47C in the capital.

France, Germany, Switzerland and Belgium could all see national records for June broken in the coming days – but France is particularly aware of the dangers posed by the hot weather.

Comparisons are being drawn to the heat wave France experienced in August 2003 - in which almost 15,000 people died...




All on our only one planet,
Martin
See new freedom: Mageia Linux
Take a look for yourself: Linux Format
The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3)
ID: 1999422 · Report as offensive
Profile ML1
Volunteer moderator
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 25 Nov 01
Posts: 17093
Credit: 7,508,002
RAC: 20
United Kingdom
Message 1999731 - Posted: 26 Jun 2019, 14:59:34 UTC - in response to Message 1999422.  

Meanwhile, this is yet another example of what will become an ever more likely occurrence as we continue to pollute our planet ever further:


France 40C heatwave could break June records

... Temperatures are expected to reach 35 degrees or more on Monday, and climb even further until the peak on Thursday and Friday...

... Temporary fountains have been put in place and public pools will stay open later as part of an extreme heat plan. Water will also be distributed and a care plan will be put in effect for vulnerable people including the elderly, as high humidity will make 40C feel like 47C in the capital.

France, Germany, Switzerland and Belgium could all see national records for June broken in the coming days – but France is particularly aware of the dangers posed by the hot weather.

Comparisons are being drawn to the heat wave France experienced in August 2003 - in which almost 15,000 people died...

And thus it comes to pass, exactly as predicted:


France heatwave: Paris region closes schools

France is starting to close dozens of schools because of a heatwave, with temperatures expected to climb above 40C (104F) in some regions on Thursday...

... In parts of northeastern Spain the heat is expected to reach 45C on Friday. Germany and Italy are still below 40C...

... Experts are linking the heatwave to climate change, as global temperatures have already risen 1C since industrialisation...

... In the state of Saxony-Anhalt, eastern Germany, speed limits have been imposed on motorways because of the risk of severe heat damaging road surfaces...




All on our only one planet,
Martin
See new freedom: Mageia Linux
Take a look for yourself: Linux Format
The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3)
ID: 1999731 · Report as offensive
Profile ML1
Volunteer moderator
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 25 Nov 01
Posts: 17093
Credit: 7,508,002
RAC: 20
United Kingdom
Message 1999733 - Posted: 26 Jun 2019, 15:07:25 UTC

Meanwhile, we continue to have the same old destructive greedy politics:


'Triple whammy' threatens UN action on climate change

A "triple whammy" of events threatens to hamper efforts to tackle climate change say UN delegates...

... To the frustration of a huge majority of countries, the objections of the four major fossil fuel producers, meant that the scientific report was not formally recognised in the negotiations...

... Many environmental campaigners see the Saudi pressure on the IPCC as part of campaign to discredit the science. "The report shows the importance of striving towards 1.5C, that it is still achievable, and there is an incredible urgency to act vigorously and quickly," said Dr Jeni Miller from the Global Climate and Health Alliance...

... Critics believe that Japan is trying hard to win favour with the US on trade issues by downplaying the scale of the climate question and possible solutions to it...

... "Japan, alongside China, is the biggest financier of coal overseas in the world and the government continues to build new coal plants domestically despite our huge solar and wind power potential."

As well as Japan, other leading economies are continuing to support coal based power generation. A study released by the Overseas Development Institute says that G20 nations have almost tripled the subsidies given to coal fired plants in recent years, despite the growing need to cut emissions.




Crazy, greedy, corrupt, or what?!

All on our only one planet,
Martin
See new freedom: Mageia Linux
Take a look for yourself: Linux Format
The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3)
ID: 1999733 · Report as offensive
Profile ML1
Volunteer moderator
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 25 Nov 01
Posts: 17093
Credit: 7,508,002
RAC: 20
United Kingdom
Message 1999736 - Posted: 26 Jun 2019, 15:19:05 UTC
Last modified: 26 Jun 2019, 15:20:18 UTC

And for just one world affecting consequence, on-going, continuing, now:


YouTube: Seven surprising results from the reduction of Arctic Sea ice cover | David Barber | TEDxUManitoba

... Extensive investigations at the leading edge of Arctic System Science have recently uncovered a number of surprises, many somewhat counterintuitive, each having significant consequences in the Arctic and through teleconnections to the rest of our planet. In this talk I will review the rate and magnitude of change in sea ice, put this into the context of our understanding of the ‘natural variability’ in sea ice over the past several thousand years. I will then review seven surprising impacts of this change...

... As a member of the Centre for Earth Observation Science he leads a polar marine science group of over 100 people...




That's from a few years ago (2015) from someone who has a lifetime of experience there. As presented, we are seeing more of those effects each day...

Deny that?...

Madness?!

There are worldwide consequences that touch all life on this planet, including especially ourselves.


All on our only one planet,
Martin
See new freedom: Mageia Linux
Take a look for yourself: Linux Format
The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3)
ID: 1999736 · Report as offensive
Profile ML1
Volunteer moderator
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 25 Nov 01
Posts: 17093
Credit: 7,508,002
RAC: 20
United Kingdom
Message 1999944 - Posted: 27 Jun 2019, 14:29:33 UTC - in response to Message 1999731.  

Meanwhile, this is yet another example of what will become an ever more likely occurrence as we continue to pollute our planet ever further:


Europe heatwave: Why are temperatures on the continent soaring?

Countries across Europe are experiencing record-breaking heat and issuing health alerts, urging people to keep cool, as sweltering temperatures are expected to intensify across the continent.

The heatwave has already caused flash floods and forest fires, grounded planes and buckled train tracks and led to school closures and warnings over air quality...

... Heatwaves are not uncommon, but according to weather experts they are being amplified by a rise in global temperatures and are likely to become more frequent - one of the more predictable impacts of our warming climate ... "Now when we get a heatwave, it is likely to be a degree or so more," he said. "They are still extreme events, but they are also becoming more frequent."...

... If the current trend were to continue, heatwaves across Europe could occur as often as every other year by the 2040s, with the possibility that temperatures may rise by 3-5C by 2100, the report said...




All as long ago accurately predicted... And yet we continue to pollute ever more...

All on our only one planet,
Martin
See new freedom: Mageia Linux
Take a look for yourself: Linux Format
The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3)
ID: 1999944 · Report as offensive
Profile ML1
Volunteer moderator
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 25 Nov 01
Posts: 17093
Credit: 7,508,002
RAC: 20
United Kingdom
Message 1999945 - Posted: 27 Jun 2019, 14:31:42 UTC - in response to Message 1999733.  
Last modified: 27 Jun 2019, 14:32:15 UTC

Meanwhile, we continue to have the same old destructive greedy politics:


Attempts to 'erase the science' at UN climate talks

Oil producing countries are trying to "erase the science" on keeping the world's temperatures below 1.5C, say some delegates at UN talks in Bonn.

The chair of the Alliance of Small Island States said Saudi Arabia and others were trying to pretend a key scientific report didn't exist...




Crazy, greedy, corrupt, or what?!


All on our only one planet,
Martin
See new freedom: Mageia Linux
Take a look for yourself: Linux Format
The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3)
ID: 1999945 · Report as offensive
Profile ML1
Volunteer moderator
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 25 Nov 01
Posts: 17093
Credit: 7,508,002
RAC: 20
United Kingdom
Message 2000497 - Posted: 1 Jul 2019, 9:09:44 UTC
Last modified: 1 Jul 2019, 9:24:43 UTC

Meanwhile, try erasing the reality of our global pollution powered global warming new weather?


Mexico hail: Ice 1.5m thick carpets Mexico's Guadalajara

Six suburbs in the Mexican city of Guadalajara have been left carpeted in a thick layer of ice after a heavy hail storm.

The ice was up to 1.5m (5ft) thick in places, half-burying vehicles...

... 200 homes have been damaged and dozens of vehicles swept away in the city and surrounding districts.

State governor Enrique Alfaro described it as incredible, according to AFP. "Then we ask ourselves if climate change is real. These are never-before-seen natural phenomena," he said...




Who would believe it?

Yet, who cannot believe it?


All on our only one planet,
Martin
See new freedom: Mageia Linux
Take a look for yourself: Linux Format
The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3)
ID: 2000497 · Report as offensive
Previous · 1 · 2 · 3 · 4 · 5 · 6 . . . 17 · Next

Message boards : Politics : Climate Change, 'Greenhouse' effects and Politics: DENIAL (#5)


 
©2022 University of California
 
SETI@home and Astropulse are funded by grants from the National Science Foundation, NASA, and donations from SETI@home volunteers. AstroPulse is funded in part by the NSF through grant AST-0307956.