Climate Change, 'Greenhouse' effects and Politics: DENIAL (#5)

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Message 2070863 - Posted: 16 Mar 2021, 21:27:57 UTC
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This example is not necessarily caused by our climate pollution, but it does give a good reminder of the fragile vastness that we are forcibly disturbing:


Mega-iceberg A74: German ship squeezes through narrow ice channel
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The German Research Vessel Polarstern has made a remarkable circumnavigation of Antarctica's latest mega-iceberg.

The ship sailed a complete circuit of the 1,290-sq-km (500 sq miles) frozen block, known as A74, at the weekend.

To do so, RV Polarstern had to navigate the very narrow channel that separates A74 from the Brunt Ice Shelf ...


That is some real daring-do by those researchers, totally dedicated to gaining a better understanding for us all, a big something that just has to be appreciated by us all.

Note that a small change in the winds or sea currents in that area could very easily have doomed their ship to the fate of Shackleton's Endurance...



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Message 2073373 - Posted: 14 Apr 2021, 23:47:37 UTC
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Just one example of what can happen with human forced rapid climate change:


Taiwan Diverts Water From Farmers to Chip Makers Amid Historic Drought
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A new irrigation policy that favors Taiwan's chipmakers over its rice farmers has led to increased tension between the two, ... as the country attempts to respond to a water shortage caused by an ongoing drought.

Liberty Times Net reported that Taiwan's Water Resources Agency shut off irrigation to more than 183,000 acres of farmland to conserve water...

... a recent study co-authored by the Semiconductor Industry Alliance estimated that 92% of the world's sub-10nm chip production happens in Taiwan...

... The world's already waiting on Taiwan for chips used in CPUs, GPUs, automobiles, and other devices. The supply of other components, such as display panels, has also been threatened by the country's ongoing drought...

Note the use of the description "Historic". This ain't happened before...


How fast and how extreme do we want our pollution driven climate change?...

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Message 2073458 - Posted: 16 Apr 2021, 6:18:47 UTC
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Message 2073475 - Posted: 16 Apr 2021, 10:55:44 UTC - in response to Message 2073458.  
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Thanks for that. Excellent for how it shows what it shows.

... What is shown is just one example amongst a repeated many...

But how do we get such real word visual impact to impact the blindly destructively greedy?


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Message 2073485 - Posted: 16 Apr 2021, 12:39:19 UTC

Meanwhile, irrationally, fossil fuels corruption continues:


China 'can save $1.6 trillion by scrapping coal', report says
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China can save up to $1.6 trillion (£1.2 trillion) over 20 years by switching from coal power to renewables, a report says.

The authors say China must close 588 coal-fired power plants in a decade to meet climate pledges - but they insist the move will save cash.

That's because renewables are now so much cheaper than coal.

It mirrors the situation in the US, where coal tumbled from being the cheapest major fuel to the most expensive.

China is currently running 1,058 coal plants – more than half the world’s capacity...



So how do we move away from the very dirty 'get rich quick and the future be damned'?


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Message 2073779 - Posted: 19 Apr 2021, 16:07:48 UTC

Looks like some people are beginning to see the problems I saw a year or so ago.
Lithium shortage may unplug electric car revolution
Original https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2021/04/19/lithium-shortage-may-unplug-electric-car-revolution/ but has a paywall.

and did I mention cobalt, copper, nickel and zinc are also in short supply unless a lot more dirty mining and smelting starts soon.
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Message 2073787 - Posted: 19 Apr 2021, 17:49:04 UTC - in response to Message 2073779.  
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... and did I mention cobalt, copper, nickel and zinc are also in short supply unless a lot more dirty mining and smelting starts soon.

Which is where we have great riches in recycling the stuff we have already mined!...

We also need to move on from the Marketing of deliberately limited lifetime products that are designed to be 'disposed' of rather than maintained, all in the name of 'fashion' and non-upgradable 'progress'.

As always, a healthy balance needs to be made.


But how and when and soon enough??

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Message 2073803 - Posted: 19 Apr 2021, 19:40:38 UTC - in response to Message 2073787.  

... and did I mention cobalt, copper, nickel and zinc are also in short supply unless a lot more dirty mining and smelting starts soon.

Which is where we have great riches in recycling the stuff we have already mined!...

Brilliant, dig up the dumps and release more methane!
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Message 2073806 - Posted: 19 Apr 2021, 21:16:36 UTC - in response to Message 2073787.  

recycling the stuff we have already mined!

What stuff we have already mined?

Less than 10% of all global cars are electric in any shape or form.
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Message 2073809 - Posted: 19 Apr 2021, 21:20:45 UTC - in response to Message 2073803.  

... and did I mention cobalt, copper, nickel and zinc are also in short supply unless a lot more dirty mining and smelting starts soon.

Which is where we have great riches in recycling the stuff we have already mined!...

Brilliant, dig up the dumps and release more methane!

No, you have to dig up the cemeteries, the uses for lithium before it's use in batteries was discovered was all in the medical field.
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Message 2073815 - Posted: 19 Apr 2021, 22:17:21 UTC

GOREbal Cooling is Cool, Baby!!!!!

Cool also is Gas: Oil; Coal; All dA GOoD Natural Stuff

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Message 2075222 - Posted: 7 May 2021, 18:43:23 UTC

dA TRUTH, inconvenient as IT IS:
COOL is GOoD - REAL GOoD SORRY Cicadas, you'll be Underground fO a little longer.

So Many to Miss Meals of Cicada Tasties. Wait will be Worth It.

Oh Well.

Free AC Baby!!!!!

I DENY GOREbal Warming.

Likeee these GreenHouseCOOLING effects!!!!!

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Message 2075309 - Posted: 8 May 2021, 18:10:57 UTC

Yet another inconvenient truth that the fossil fuels industry greedily and desperately will kill to hide?


The Longest Running US Oil Spill You've Never Heard Of
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When Hurricane Ivan knocked over an offshore oil platform off the coast of Louisiana in 2004, oil started leaking into the Gulf of Mexico...

... until 15 years later that the US Coast Guard hired Timmy Couvillion to use his specially designed containment device to start collecting the leaking oil. But to this day, the leak continues from America's longest running oil spill.



And the oil company has hired lawyers and issued dire threats so as to have the oil spill cleanup stopped?!...

Only in the USA?


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Message 2075310 - Posted: 8 May 2021, 18:15:49 UTC - in response to Message 2075309.  
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Yet another inconvenient truth that the fossil fuels industry greedily and desperately will kill to hide?

... Only in the USA?

Also elsewhere in the world for the deadly greedy profit of the USA:


The World's Worst Oil Related Disaster You've Never Heard Of
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Deep in the Amazon Rainforest of Ecuador lies the "Amazon Chernobyl", a 1,700-square-mile environmental disaster brought on by oil extraction and production ...
Texaco (later Chevron) ... over 30,000 farmers and Indigenous people from this Amazon region who were affected by this disaster...



From my view, totally gratuitous and very messy and very deadly.

Deadly, deadly corrupt, and on-going.


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Message 2075740 - Posted: 12 May 2021, 21:05:39 UTC

https://science.sciencemag.org/content/372/6542/560
A group of whistleblowers has asked three funding agencies for a misconduct investigation into a series of 22 research papers, many of them on the effects of ocean acidification on fish behavior and ecology. The request, which they shared with a Science reporter, rests on what they say is evidence of manipulation in publicly available raw data files for two papers, one published in Science, the other in Nature Climate Change, combined with remarkably large and "statistically impossible" behavioral effects from carbon dioxide reported in many of the other papers.
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Message 2076546 - Posted: 25 May 2021, 5:28:42 UTC

Climate scientists have once again confirmed an alarming slowdown in the circulation of the Atlantic Ocean — the process that drives the current that warms Europe, and powers the planetary climate.

Concern as Climate Impacts on Gulf Stream Flow

“It is conspicuous that one specific area in the North Atlantic has been cooling in the past hundred years, while the rest of the world heats up,” Professor Rahmstorf says.
“Now we have detected strong evidence that the global conveyor has indeed been weakening in the past hundred years, particularly since 1970.”

The paradox of the Atlantic current is that, in a warmer world, it could slow down or halt, which would deliver uncomfortable consequences for maritime Europe.
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Message 2076558 - Posted: 25 May 2021, 12:34:37 UTC - in response to Message 2075740.  

Figures don't lie; but, liars can figure. Lots of people have made their careers or gotten wealthy over what amounts to a false religion that we can't and won't do anything about.
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Message 2077154 - Posted: 2 Jun 2021, 18:19:53 UTC
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Quite a contrast between supporting going good and clean vs continuing the dirty pollution:


Major project aims to clear clean energy hurdle
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... A group of leading nations will invest $248m over the next decade ... The effort has emerged from a clean-tech research programme called Mission Innovation (MI).

Environmentalists say the sum’s a fraction of the many trillions of dollars of damages that climate change is projected to wreak on society, unless it’s curbed.

But the 23 member governments involved in the programme are spending US$5.8bn per year more than in 2015 – and they say they’ll commit more public funds to clean tech if they can afford it...

... A few of the partners want to produce some of this hydrogen by splitting it from natural gas, and seizing the CO2 emissions by carbon capture technology.

Environmentalists say this fossil fuel hydrogen is an inefficient technology being promoted by the oil and gas industry...

... "Deployment of what we already have is what matters and for which we need big bucks.”...

... G7 nations were still channelling more cash to fossil fuel firms than to renewables. This included Covid-19 grants to the aviation and car industries, which received $115,000m from the G7 countries. Of that, 80% was given with no attempt to force the sectors to cut their emissions in return for the support.


A small move that in reality promotes yet more procrastination to allow more time for more pollution from fossil fuels?

Whilst Nero watches our planet burn...


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Message 2077624 - Posted: 9 Jun 2021, 19:59:02 UTC

Will our business leaders take heed?...


G7: 'Mount Recyclemore' of leaders made from electronic waste in Cornwall
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A sculpture of the G7 leaders shaped like Mount Rushmore made of electronic waste has been erected in Cornwall ahead of the G7 Summit.

It has been named "Mount Recyclemore" and bids to highlight the damage caused by the disposal of electronic devices...

... "We have this looking at them and hopefully we're going to prick their conscience and make them realise they're all together in this waste business.

"The key message is 'talk to each other' and let's sort this mess out,"...



Indeed so!

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