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Message 1998557 - Posted: 17 Jun 2019, 15:46:33 UTC - in response to Message 1998530.  

Wow. yes an end to groundhog day. I hope they get a good paper out of that data set. We have started splitting the blc41s as you thought, and we are even working on the super large file blc34_2bit_guppi_58389_22167_FRB121102_DIAG_0013 180.04 GB . It feels good (for no logical reason) to finish up the files that have been sitting in the list for so long.

Wonder what they will give us next??? maybe more from the blc41 day (58543) ???
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Message 1998561 - Posted: 17 Jun 2019, 17:15:36 UTC - in response to Message 1998557.  

Wishful thinking, I'm afraid. A whole lot of blc24_58340 tapes have been loaded, and gone into 'immediate split' mode - leaving all the stragglers looking lonely at the bottom.

Remind me to ask Eric whether this is a deliberate policy to study interesting recordings quickly, or whether somebody simply coded a LIFO tape-picker by mistake.
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Message 1998565 - Posted: 17 Jun 2019, 17:42:00 UTC
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They gave us two days of blc24 data files. I just can't figure out the splitting order. If it was LIFO then the blc41s would have split before the others when they added it the other day. I'm guessing the order is from a list that they edit to make files split in the order they want.

We have day 58340 or Aug 10 2018
and 58405/6 or Oct 14/15 2018 aka groundhog day.
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Message 1998568 - Posted: 17 Jun 2019, 18:16:30 UTC

..and can my thought that it was an alpha order - there's some blc22 sitting around.....
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Message 1998570 - Posted: 17 Jun 2019, 18:41:04 UTC - in response to Message 1998561.  

I haven't watched it for awhile now but I thought they were going by record date still ... sorting within the filename.
And I do believe they have the ability to push tapes ahead of queue for what they want results back fast - we have seen that haven't we?
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Message 1998572 - Posted: 17 Jun 2019, 19:38:26 UTC - in response to Message 1998557.  
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Wow. yes an end to groundhog day. I hope they get a good paper out of that data set. We have started splitting the blc41s as you thought, and we are even working on the super large file blc34_2bit_guppi_58389_22167_FRB121102_DIAG_0013 180.04 GB . It feels good (for no logical reason) to finish up the files that have been sitting in the list for so long.
Wonder what they will give us next??? maybe more from the blc41 day (58543) ???


. . Agreed, it does feel good, I guess there is a little (lot) of OCD in all of us :)

. . I am hoping there is a complete set of that blc41 data so more to follow :)

{edit} AAArrrrggghh!!! the things they do while you're asleep. I woke up to find there are more 'groundhog day' tapes, an entire blc24 series in fact ... :(

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Message 1998575 - Posted: 17 Jun 2019, 19:49:05 UTC - in response to Message 1998570.  

I haven't watched it for awhile now but I thought they were going by record date still ... sorting within the filename.
And I do believe they have the ability to push tapes ahead of queue for what they want results back fast - we have seen that haven't we?


. . I believed that was the general rule too, but the exceptions are quite befuddling. :(

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Message 1998614 - Posted: 17 Jun 2019, 23:09:26 UTC

Has anyone run one of those BLC41s yet? Best I can tell they take Over Twice as long as a BLC34.
If you like Arecibo VLARs, you're gonna love the BLC41s...
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Message 1998615 - Posted: 17 Jun 2019, 23:12:29 UTC - in response to Message 1998614.  

Has anyone run one of those BLC41s yet? Best I can tell they take Over Twice as long as a BLC34.
If you like Arecibo VLARs, you're gonna love the BLC41s...


. . Ouch, yet to see one running here ... I was hoping they would be about the same as the blc34 tasks ...

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Message 1998618 - Posted: 17 Jun 2019, 23:25:57 UTC - in response to Message 1998614.  

Has anyone run one of those BLC41s yet? Best I can tell they take Over Twice as long as a BLC34.
If you like Arecibo VLARs, you're gonna love the BLC41s...

Nope, the highest I have now are BLC36's. Will look out for the BLC 41's
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Message 1998619 - Posted: 17 Jun 2019, 23:28:55 UTC

Make that close to Three times as long. I ran a couple that didn't overflow near the end, the first few ended up overflowing. The 34s take about 1:45 on this machine;
Name: blc41_2bit_guppi_58543_61810_3C147_0007.18408.0.21.44.251.vlar_1
Run time: 5 min 9 sec

Now to see if you get close to three times as many points...
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Message 1998620 - Posted: 17 Jun 2019, 23:40:11 UTC - in response to Message 1998619.  

Wow! 5 minutes on a 1070 with the special app. They had better award 3X credit. I see a BLC35 has a Peak swap size around 27GB. Your BLC41 has a Peak swap size around 70GB. Should be 3X credit in my opinion.
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Message 1998621 - Posted: 18 Jun 2019, 0:01:15 UTC - in response to Message 1998614.  

Has anyone run one of those BLC41s yet? Best I can tell they take Over Twice as long as a BLC34.

That echoes my experience with them so far.
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Message 1998623 - Posted: 18 Jun 2019, 0:33:17 UTC - in response to Message 1998618.  
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Has anyone run one of those BLC41s yet? Best I can tell they take Over Twice as long as a BLC34.
If you like Arecibo VLARs, you're gonna love the BLC41s...

Nope, the highest I have now are BLC36's. Will look out for the BLC 41's


. . I suspended all other tasks on 3 rigs to push the blc41 WUs. It seems the Blc41 tapes are rather noisy.

. . Sys 1: R7-1700 with 2 x GTX1060-6GB (SoG)
. . Blc 34 typically 8.8 to 9.0 mins.
. . Blc 41 - 1 @ 5.5 mins and 1 @ 12.0 mins {another one just finished @ 19.8 mins}

. . Sys 2: C2D E7600 with 1 x GTX1050ti (Cuda90)
. . Blc 34 typically 4.7 to 4.9 mins
. . Blc41 - 1 @ 12.5 mins

. . Sys 3: i5-6600 with 2 x GTX970 (Cuda90)
. . Blc 34 typically 2.8 to 2.9 mins
. . Blc 41 - 15 @ 1.5 mins, 1 @ 5.3, 1 @ 6.5, 1 @ 7.4, 1 @ 8.4

. . With the high rate of what I presume are noisy samples it will take a while to determine what is a 'normal' run time for these units. But with the longest times being over 2.5 times that of the established blc34 times it does not look pretty ... It sure will take the load off the servers :(

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Message 1998624 - Posted: 18 Jun 2019, 0:36:13 UTC - in response to Message 1998619.  

Make that close to Three times as long. I ran a couple that didn't overflow near the end, the first few ended up overflowing. The 34s take about 1:45 on this machine;
Name: blc41_2bit_guppi_58543_61810_3C147_0007.18408.0.21.44.251.vlar_1
Run time: 5 min 9 sec

Now to see if you get close to three times as many points...


. . Of course not, probably less in fact. :(

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Message 1998625 - Posted: 18 Jun 2019, 0:43:55 UTC

If what is said about these Blc41 tasks is true I'm looking forward to my RAC to fall. I shall keep crunching.
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Message 1998629 - Posted: 18 Jun 2019, 1:17:59 UTC - in response to Message 1998625.  

If what is said about these Blc41 tasks is true I'm looking forward to my RAC to fall. I shall keep crunching.

Actually the ones I've had validate so far take twice as long, but also pay twice as well. May just be a wash ...
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Message 1998630 - Posted: 18 Jun 2019, 1:23:46 UTC - in response to Message 1998629.  

If what is said about these Blc41 tasks is true I'm looking forward to my RAC to fall. I shall keep crunching.

Actually the ones I've had validate so far take twice as long, but also pay twice as well. May just be a wash ...

I got 173.93 credits for https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=7778289756 which took 8 min 26 sec , compared to an average of 4 min 20 sec for other blc work.
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Message 1998633 - Posted: 18 Jun 2019, 1:43:49 UTC

I have two in my cache. Haven't gotten to them yet, but they're in the pipeline.

my two 41s: 3522928769 and 3522843580

the BLC25 and 26's have been averaging right at 3200 seconds, +/- 200, it appears, on quick glance in the list of returned work.

BLC32's are about 3400 +/- 200.

33 and 34's are about 3500 +/- 200.

35 looks to be about 3700, but there seems to be a lot of overflow exits with those.

Looking through how the higher the BLC number, the longer it takes.. the 41s could possibly be around.. 4300 or so, but i'll see in a few hours when those get crunched and returned.
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Message 1998635 - Posted: 18 Jun 2019, 1:58:52 UTC
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Well, as usual, I got robbed. The 41 ran for 5:14 and produced 71 points. The 34 ran for 1:44 and paid 93.
It should be noted the 41 was against a CPU while the 34 was against a GPU. I believe I started a thread about that a while back when the Arecibo VLARS were first scheduled to the GPUs.
As I remember it, eventually the tasks against the GPUs normalized to the CPU scores and everyone now gets robbed when running the Arecibo VLARS. Back when that first started I remember getting scores around 160 as well, but only against other GPUs. Now, you're lucky to get much over a hundred for an Arecibo VLAR, I predict the same will happen with the 41s once CreditFewer gets finished with it.

Here's an example of the same run-time, same GPU, only against another GPU this time;
name blc41_2bit_guppi_58543_61810_3C147_0007.4891.0.22.45.8.vlar
granted credit 231.91

   Task     Computer            Sent                    Time reported                Status              Run time  CPU time  Credit               Application
7778470923   8634807   17 Jun 2019, 20:01:22 UTC   17 Jun 2019, 21:08:32 UTC  Completed and validated     103.44    101.88   231.91    Anonymous platform (NVIDIA GPU)
7778470924   6796479   17 Jun 2019, 20:01:18 UTC   18 Jun 2019, 1:11:09 UTC   Completed and validated     302.74    300.30   231.91    Anonymous platform (NVIDIA GPU)

71 credits against a CPU, 231 against another GPU.
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