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Message 1985466 - Posted: 16 Mar 2019, 12:13:44 UTC

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/04/adam-serwer-madison-grant-white-nationalism/583258/

This both deeply troubling and explains a lot of our current culture.
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Message 1985491 - Posted: 16 Mar 2019, 15:20:02 UTC - in response to Message 1985466.  
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A lot of references to the so called "Nordic Race" in the article.
There is no such thing as a "Nordic Race".
When "White Nationalism" talks about the "Nordic Race", what do they mean?
I think they mean that "Nordic" is the region in Northern Europe that is Scandinavia, Britain, Netherlands and Northern Germany.
But "Race"? All people here are a mix of people from other regions, first gathering/hunters from Southern Europe, then farmers from Minor Asia and later about 5,000 years ago from the Ukrainian steppes.
And the first group of people who moved here about 9,000 years ago wasn't white at all according to DNA analyses both done in Britain and Sweden.
A reconstruction of the "Cheddar man" from a skeleton found in Britain.

Most people in Scandinavia have about a quarter Southern Europe, a quarter Minor Asia and one half Ukrainian genes.
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Message 1985509 - Posted: 16 Mar 2019, 17:49:41 UTC - in response to Message 1985491.  
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There is no such thing as a "Nordic Race".
Don't let facts get in the way of a good delusion
When "White Nationalism" talks about the "Nordic Race", what do they mean?
Their spawn

It is called eugenics. It is just as filthy and as ugly as "the final solution."

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Message 1985511 - Posted: 16 Mar 2019, 18:04:41 UTC

I was intrigued by this quote, pulled from Grant's 1916 book The Passing of the Great Race:

These immigrants adopt the language of the native American, they wear his clothes, they steal his name, and they are beginning to take his women, but they seldom adopt his religion or understand his ideals and while he is being elbowed out of his own home the American looks calmly abroad and urges on others the suicidal ethics which are exterminating his own race.
Somehow, I think that the term 'native American' meant something different then from what it means now. And the other racial terms should probably be considered similarly.
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Message 1985556 - Posted: 17 Mar 2019, 3:38:06 UTC - in response to Message 1985511.  

I was intrigued by this quote, pulled from Grant's 1916 book The Passing of the Great Race:

These immigrants adopt the language of the native American, they wear his clothes, they steal his name, and they are beginning to take his women, but they seldom adopt his religion or understand his ideals and while he is being elbowed out of his own home the American looks calmly abroad and urges on others the suicidal ethics which are exterminating his own race.
Somehow, I think that the term 'native American' meant something different then from what it means now. And the other racial terms should probably be considered similarly.


I agree about "native American" but since, apparently Hitler said "it was his bible" I have every reason to believe the book was as horrible a view point as I have been lead to believe.

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Message 1985567 - Posted: 17 Mar 2019, 5:11:33 UTC - in response to Message 1985556.  

I was intrigued by this quote, pulled from Grant's 1916 book The Passing of the Great Race:

These immigrants adopt the language of the native American, they wear his clothes, they steal his name, and they are beginning to take his women, but they seldom adopt his religion or understand his ideals and while he is being elbowed out of his own home the American looks calmly abroad and urges on others the suicidal ethics which are exterminating his own race.
Somehow, I think that the term 'native American' meant something different then from what it means now. And the other racial terms should probably be considered similarly.


I agree about "native American" but since, apparently Hitler said "it was his bible" I have every reason to believe the book was as horrible a view point as I have been lead to believe.

Tom

Amazon unfortunately has dozens of different versions of it for sale. That someone is still profiting off this is .......
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Message 1985569 - Posted: 17 Mar 2019, 5:23:05 UTC - in response to Message 1985567.  


Amazon unfortunately has dozens of different versions of it for sale. That someone is still profiting off this is .......


This feeds into "those people" as well as the Internet websites that feed into white nationalism. I believe, at least, the author is dead so only his estate is profiting.

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Message 1985979 - Posted: 19 Mar 2019, 13:52:52 UTC - in response to Message 1985511.  

I was intrigued by this quote, pulled from Grant's 1916 book The Passing of the Great Race:

These immigrants adopt the language of the native American, they wear his clothes, they steal his name, and they are beginning to take his women, but they seldom adopt his religion or understand his ideals and while he is being elbowed out of his own home the American looks calmly abroad and urges on others the suicidal ethics which are exterminating his own race.
Somehow, I think that the term 'native American' meant something different then from what it means now. And the other racial terms should probably be considered similarly.

As the British/German American's said about the Irish immigrants. Then the Irish American's said about the Italian immigrants. Then the Italian Americans said about..

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