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Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34744 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
Yep, plenty of evidence around here. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30608 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Notice how the lame stream media has lost interest in the story. You mean the story; "Corrupt politicians enrich themselves with emoluments!" You are right Breitbart and Fox aren't covering it. |
JaundicedEye Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1 |
When viewing or reading 'news' from ANY source my first thought is always 'what is the author/commentator/source's actual motive'? It' s usually quickly apparent. The old adage of 'always question authority' is true but needs expansion to always question motive. Both sides are guilty of hyperbole and overstatement, and I no longer believe ANY source is truly neutral anymore(or perhaps never was). It's just more blatant today. We have a local NBC anchor here that claims to be open to all sides of a discussion but in truth betrays himself with vocal tones and innuendo when presenting something he doesn't agree with, which is usually a Conservative view. A little lightweight humor......... "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
cRunchy Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 3555 Credit: 1,920,030 RAC: 3 |
...We have a local NBC anchor here that claims to be open to all sides of a discussion but in truth betrays himself with vocal tones and innuendo when presenting something he doesn't agree with, which is usually a Conservative view. Broadly published or disseminated news by nature has always tended to be conservative (little 'c' to big 'C') simply because those who pay for the papers (even without revenue from advertising of products) have either power or funds. Let's not forget that 'conservative' can and does include the powerful or financed left wing as much as it does the right wing. There are subtle tones in news but there is also what is called 'the hammer effect' where some news becomes important or accepted as true just by sheer volume. No doubt news reporters and their media agencies are trained in the various arts of psychology and sociological presentation. There was something in one of Shakespeare's plays where a character remarks upon another character saying: 'he is a good man - he is a very good man - such a good man' (or something like that.) Basically in the end we know he is overstating and telling us he is thought of as "not such a good man"... No different to elections where backdrops to TV news are set with a colour or scene that suggests a particular political party. (Blue is often right wing I suspect.) If I remember right here in the UK there was a TV election news presenter that was removed because he wore a tie that could be associated with a particular party? Some of it is subtle, some blatant, some stupid and I guess some just misplaced. Even adverts in old Victorian newspapers (UK) for things like soap often had political and cultural ideology embedded. (At that time mostly imperialistic.) |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
Your local NBC station fawned over Trump's visit to the Air Academy, so give us a break. Capitalize on this good fortune, one word can bring you round ... changes. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30608 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Understand why everything on media is slanted https://slate.com/technology/2019/06/youtube-facebook-hate-speech-regulation-how.html |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14649 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a socialist. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.Martin Niemöller |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30608 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
If one does not wish for Trump types buying Facebook and having the authority to define what hate speech and censor your speech. Like Hobby Lobby, Masterpiece Cakeshop, North Memorial Health Care or Catholic Hospitals. It isn't that the owner can chose who to be his customer, it is a monopoly can chose who can be their customer. As to this ban on hate speech, AFIK incitement to riot isn't governmentally protected speech. AFIK "fighting words" are not governmentally protected speech. AFIK speech that "causes a panic" isn't governmentally protected speech. If you can't find a way to express yourself without going to such extremes, then perhaps what you are peddling comes from the bottom of the fetid garbage pile. |
JaundicedEye Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1 |
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a socialist. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.Martin Niemöller So much truth there. "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
JaundicedEye Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1 |
Denver Councilwoman Promises To Force Socialism ‘By Any Means Necessary’ https://lidblog.com/force-socialism/ CdeBaca’s “by any means necessary†comment is exactly what comes with socialism. When the socialists take over, they eventually find out that their policies are failing. Instead of realizing their system is inherently wrong, the socialists begin to use any means necessary—that translates into murder. During the 20th-century socialist governments murdered at least 94 million people to keep them in line when the socialist policies failed. "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
I found this youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9ipRaLa4Jw of our professor lecturing about socialism & again he contradicts himself. Capitalize on this good fortune, one word can bring you round ... changes. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30608 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
This also applies to other secular ideologies and religion's, where their supporter's believe in their Right to Control the people. Yep. Thou shalt not kill. Thou shalt not steal. Thou shalt not bear false witness. No reason to control the people. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30608 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
This also applies to other secular ideologies and religion's, where their supporter's believe in their Right to Control the people. Dear Clyde. What is government/religion? Control of the people. So sad you don't understand what you post. |
JaundicedEye Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1 |
"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
I think socialism is very much about trust. https://ourworldindata.org/trust Trust is a key element of social capital |
moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
So you believe there aren't any governments that are benevolent? Socialist, Capitalist or whatever? You seem to have a hangup that Socialism means "the people" should have the "Means of Production". I don't think there haven't been any country, today or in history, that have had such a system. |
moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
How would you describe Communist Country's?Communism is a total failure of course. Socialism, if truly implemented? Isn't that Communism? Btw. Do you trust the US Supreme Court? I think most Americans does it despite it's given centralized control over all. |
Mr. Kevvy Send message Joined: 15 May 99 Posts: 3776 Credit: 1,114,826,392 RAC: 3,319 |
Again, as so many times before, you have conflated an economic system with a legislative/executive one. A socialist state can have the separation of powers as described, or it can be a autocratic dictatorship. This also applies to capitalism. Fascism is an example of a capitalist autocracy, or even modern Russia. |
moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
I do not trust SCOTUS, nor the Presidency, nor the Congress, nor the States. But accept that some power must be given to stop a decent into anarchy and for the benefit of all.Of course. In God We Trust :) |
moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
Fascism, Communism. Socialism, et al are the enemy of the people.And are you thinking of National Socialism somehow? Hm... I wonder if there is a National Capitalism political branch... Got it! The United States of America. MAGA:) MAGA? Does that mean that countries like Mexico, Honduras, Guatemala and Venezuela will be great again as well? |
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