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Message 1997078 - Posted: 6 Jun 2019, 19:28:44 UTC

Yep, plenty of evidence around here.
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Message 1997082 - Posted: 6 Jun 2019, 19:57:44 UTC - in response to Message 1997027.  

Notice how the lame stream media has lost interest in the story.

You mean the story; "Corrupt politicians enrich themselves with emoluments!"

You are right Breitbart and Fox aren't covering it.
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Message 1997127 - Posted: 7 Jun 2019, 3:57:27 UTC

When viewing or reading 'news' from ANY source my first thought is always 'what is the author/commentator/source's actual motive'? It' s usually quickly apparent.

The old adage of 'always question authority' is true but needs expansion to always question motive. Both sides are guilty of hyperbole and overstatement, and I no longer believe ANY source is truly neutral anymore(or perhaps never was). It's just more blatant today.

We have a local NBC anchor here that claims to be open to all sides of a discussion but in truth betrays himself with vocal tones and innuendo when presenting something he doesn't agree with, which is usually a Conservative view.

A little lightweight humor.........


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Message 1997179 - Posted: 7 Jun 2019, 12:29:36 UTC - in response to Message 1997127.  
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...We have a local NBC anchor here that claims to be open to all sides of a discussion but in truth betrays himself with vocal tones and innuendo when presenting something he doesn't agree with, which is usually a Conservative view.


Broadly published or disseminated news by nature has always tended to be conservative (little 'c' to big 'C') simply because those who pay for the papers (even without revenue from advertising of products) have either power or funds.

Let's not forget that 'conservative' can and does include the powerful or financed left wing as much as it does the right wing.

There are subtle tones in news but there is also what is called 'the hammer effect' where some news becomes important or accepted as true just by sheer volume.

No doubt news reporters and their media agencies are trained in the various arts of psychology and sociological presentation.

There was something in one of Shakespeare's plays where a character remarks upon another character saying: 'he is a good man - he is a very good man - such a good man' (or something like that.) Basically in the end we know he is overstating and telling us he is thought of as "not such a good man"...

No different to elections where backdrops to TV news are set with a colour or scene that suggests a particular political party. (Blue is often right wing I suspect.)

If I remember right here in the UK there was a TV election news presenter that was removed because he wore a tie that could be associated with a particular party?

Some of it is subtle, some blatant, some stupid and I guess some just misplaced.

Even adverts in old Victorian newspapers (UK) for things like soap often had political and cultural ideology embedded. (At that time mostly imperialistic.)
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Message 1997256 - Posted: 7 Jun 2019, 22:10:42 UTC

Your local NBC station fawned over Trump's visit to the Air Academy, so give us a break.
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Message 1997261 - Posted: 7 Jun 2019, 22:26:14 UTC

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Message 1997416 - Posted: 8 Jun 2019, 14:59:42 UTC - in response to Message 1997405.  

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
     Because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
     Because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
     Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
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Message 1997451 - Posted: 8 Jun 2019, 19:57:07 UTC - in response to Message 1997405.  

If one does not wish for Trump types buying Facebook and having the authority to define what hate speech and censor your speech.

Like Hobby Lobby, Masterpiece Cakeshop, North Memorial Health Care or Catholic Hospitals. It isn't that the owner can chose who to be his customer, it is a monopoly can chose who can be their customer.

As to this ban on hate speech, AFIK incitement to riot isn't governmentally protected speech. AFIK "fighting words" are not governmentally protected speech. AFIK speech that "causes a panic" isn't governmentally protected speech.

If you can't find a way to express yourself without going to such extremes, then perhaps what you are peddling comes from the bottom of the fetid garbage pile.
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Message 1997504 - Posted: 9 Jun 2019, 0:36:04 UTC - in response to Message 1997416.  

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
     Because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
     Because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
     Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
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So much truth there.

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Message 1998599 - Posted: 17 Jun 2019, 21:28:52 UTC

Denver Councilwoman Promises To Force Socialism ‘By Any Means Necessary’

https://lidblog.com/force-socialism/

CdeBaca’s “by any means necessary” comment is exactly what comes with socialism. When the socialists take over, they eventually find out that their policies are failing. Instead of realizing their system is inherently wrong, the socialists begin to use any means necessary—that translates into murder. During the 20th-century socialist governments murdered at least 94 million people to keep them in line when the socialist policies failed.


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Message 1999060 - Posted: 21 Jun 2019, 17:32:33 UTC

I found this youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9ipRaLa4Jw of our professor lecturing about socialism & again he contradicts himself.
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Message 1999075 - Posted: 21 Jun 2019, 19:46:23 UTC - in response to Message 1999073.  

This also applies to other secular ideologies and religion's, where their supporter's believe in their Right to Control the people.

Yep. Thou shalt not kill. Thou shalt not steal. Thou shalt not bear false witness. No reason to control the people.
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Message 1999080 - Posted: 21 Jun 2019, 21:10:18 UTC - in response to Message 1999076.  

This also applies to other secular ideologies and religion's, where their supporter's believe in their Right to Control the people.

Yep. Thou shalt not kill. Thou shalt not steal. Thou shalt not bear false witness. No reason to control the people.

Dear Gary,

Dear Clyde. What is government/religion? Control of the people.

So sad you don't understand what you post.
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Message 1999192 - Posted: 22 Jun 2019, 18:06:26 UTC



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Message 1999633 - Posted: 26 Jun 2019, 1:41:50 UTC

I think socialism is very much about trust.
https://ourworldindata.org/trust
Trust is a key element of social capital
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Message 1999711 - Posted: 26 Jun 2019, 13:16:52 UTC - in response to Message 1999704.  

So you believe there aren't any governments that are benevolent? Socialist, Capitalist or whatever?
You seem to have a hangup that Socialism means "the people" should have the "Means of Production".
I don't think there haven't been any country, today or in history, that have had such a system.
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Message 1999716 - Posted: 26 Jun 2019, 13:36:40 UTC - in response to Message 1999713.  

How would you describe Communist Country's?
Socialism, if truly implemented, does the same. The Socialist's denial of this makes no sense.
Communism is a total failure of course.
Socialism, if truly implemented?
Isn't that Communism?

Btw. Do you trust the US Supreme Court?
I think most Americans does it despite it's given centralized control over all.
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Message 1999723 - Posted: 26 Jun 2019, 14:20:24 UTC - in response to Message 1999719.  
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Again, as so many times before, you have conflated an economic system with a legislative/executive one. A socialist state can have the separation of powers as described, or it can be a autocratic dictatorship. This also applies to capitalism. Fascism is an example of a capitalist autocracy, or even modern Russia.
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Message 1999724 - Posted: 26 Jun 2019, 14:35:26 UTC - in response to Message 1999719.  

I do not trust SCOTUS, nor the Presidency, nor the Congress, nor the States. But accept that some power must be given to stop a decent into anarchy and for the benefit of all.
Of course.
In God We Trust :)
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Message 1999730 - Posted: 26 Jun 2019, 14:56:54 UTC - in response to Message 1999726.  

Fascism, Communism. Socialism, et al are the enemy of the people.
And are you thinking of National Socialism somehow?
Hm... I wonder if there is a National Capitalism political branch...
Got it! The United States of America. MAGA:)
MAGA? Does that mean that countries like Mexico, Honduras, Guatemala and Venezuela will be great again as well?
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