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Message 1981514 - Posted: 21 Feb 2019, 16:28:40 UTC - in response to Message 1981497.  

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Message 1981877 - Posted: 23 Feb 2019, 18:39:34 UTC



"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>
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Message 1981886 - Posted: 23 Feb 2019, 19:48:19 UTC - in response to Message 1981877.  

Pretty sad your false equivalency, surely you don't believe what you are posting.
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Message 1981894 - Posted: 23 Feb 2019, 20:17:42 UTC

I have a feeling that he does.
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Message 1981897 - Posted: 23 Feb 2019, 20:28:49 UTC - in response to Message 1981877.  

Think the meme should've said "History shows" Not "I've seen".
For you to have seen it, you must be aged 80 - 95 as most of the older ones are no longer with us.
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Message 1981909 - Posted: 23 Feb 2019, 21:10:38 UTC - in response to Message 1981877.  

In January 2013, Anti-Defamation League (ADL) director Abraham Foxman said in a press release: "The idea that supporters of gun control are doing something akin to what Hitler's Germany did to strip citizens of guns in the run-up to the Second World War is historically inaccurate and offensive, especially to Holocaust survivors and their families." Later that year, Jewish groups and Jersey City, New Jersey, mayor Steven Fulop criticized the NRA for comparing gun control supporters to Nazi Germany. The Jewish Federation of Greater MetroWest NJ released a statement saying: "Access to guns and the systematic murder of six million Jews have no basis for comparison in the United States or in New Jersey. The Holocaust has no place in this discussion and it is offensive to link this tragedy to such a debate."

In October 2015, in response to comments made by Ben Carson, history professor Alan E. Steinweis wrote in a New York Times piece:

"The Jews of Germany constituted less than 1 percent of the country's population. It is preposterous to argue that the possession of firearms would have enabled them to mount resistance against a systematic program of persecution implemented by a modern bureaucracy, enforced by a well-armed police state, and either supported or tolerated by the majority of the German population. Mr. Carson's suggestion that ordinary Germans, had they had guns, would have risked their lives in armed resistance against the regime simply does not comport with the regrettable historical reality of a regime that was quite popular at home. Inside Germany, only the army possessed the physical force necessary for defying or overthrowing the Nazis, but the generals had thrown in their lot with Hitler early on."

The view that had Jews in Germany been armed they could have stopped the Holocaust not only has little support among legal scholars and historians, it also has little support among human rights activists like Richard Lutz who wrote: "It is farcical for gun rights advocates to assert that Jewish civilians could have stopped the Holocaust if only they had ready access to firearms as they only constituted a tiny disorganized minority in areas under Nazi control, though some able-bodied Jews would undoubtedly have been able to put up more resistance as in the case of the Bielski partisans."


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Message 1981910 - Posted: 23 Feb 2019, 21:14:54 UTC - in response to Message 1981877.  

Oh dear. That's is what happen when many *ists with xenophobia and other phobias do when adhere to a *ism.
Capitalist, Socialist, Nationalist or whatever!
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Message 1981926 - Posted: 23 Feb 2019, 23:04:25 UTC - in response to Message 1981877.  

We already have kids in cages in concentration camps, and you want to try to pull THAT?!??
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Message 1981962 - Posted: 24 Feb 2019, 3:21:07 UTC - in response to Message 1981926.  

We already have kids in cages in concentration camps, and you want to try to pull THAT?!??

.....what do you me WE, kimosabe?.......

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Message 1981970 - Posted: 24 Feb 2019, 5:54:22 UTC

I find it incredible and somewhat distasteful that someone who has supported a more right wing America should use that image.

That is what happens when the far right get into power.
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Message 1982012 - Posted: 24 Feb 2019, 15:07:08 UTC
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Gee Bernie, perhaps you would prefer images that depict the true face of Socialism TODAY not the facts of history.........

......like this one from Venezeula.........


....or perhaps one from France......


....I can't understand how a system that everyone obviously adores can have this many unhappy customers............could it be they regret buying 'the pig in lipstick'? Or regret believing the lies they were told that allowed the forging of the eternally indentured servitude they now 'enjoy'?

Tear gas appears to be the Sacrament administered to the Socialist masses.......

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Message 1982018 - Posted: 24 Feb 2019, 15:50:52 UTC - in response to Message 1982012.  
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Venezuela is a dictatorship. If you don't vote for the "correct" candidate, stuff happens.

P.S. Doesn't the term Banana Republic ring any bells?
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Message 1982019 - Posted: 24 Feb 2019, 15:59:20 UTC - in response to Message 1982012.  

Gee Bernie, perhaps you would prefer images that depict the true face of Socialism TODAY not the facts of history.........

....or perhaps one from France......


As France is a constitutional republic, just like the USA, with a structure that is very similar.

By implication you are saying the USA is Socialist.
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Message 1982021 - Posted: 24 Feb 2019, 16:25:00 UTC

Perhaps he should post something closer to home
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Message 1982025 - Posted: 24 Feb 2019, 16:45:26 UTC - in response to Message 1982019.  

Gee Bernie, perhaps you would prefer images that depict the true face of Socialism TODAY not the facts of history.........

....or perhaps one from France......


As France is a constitutional republic, just like the USA, with a structure that is very similar.

By implication you are saying the USA is Socialist.
......not yet, but there is a wave of the historical illiterate wishing to make it that way. I am not against VOLUNTARY contributions to VALID Social Programs...........two key words there, neither of which are the case in either Venezuela OR France.

Voluntary implies freely given, not imposed by authority.
Valid means actual, existing and indisputable.

Starvation under the 'Maduro Diet' is existing, actual and indisputable.
Trying to take a train from NYC to London is also indisputable.......stupidity.

"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>
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Message 1982029 - Posted: 24 Feb 2019, 18:07:45 UTC - in response to Message 1982025.  

Trying to take a train from NYC to London is also indisputable.......stupidity.

Just like sending a man to the moon and returning him safely to the earth.

It is only stupidity until you do it, then it is sheer brilliance.

It is obvious you don't share the foresight of a person who wrote this.
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Message 1982036 - Posted: 24 Feb 2019, 19:21:05 UTC - in response to Message 1982025.  

"What can be more palpably absurd than the prospect held out of locomotives traveling twice as fast as stagecoaches?"
---The Quarterly Review, March, 1825.
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Message 1982057 - Posted: 24 Feb 2019, 22:32:49 UTC - in response to Message 1982054.  

Trying to take a train from NYC to London is also indisputable.......stupidity.

Dear JE...

Possibly can be done if we decide to throw our tax dollars down the toilet.

Yes... That would be "stupidity".
Military satellites, Paying your "arch enemy" to launch your astronauts, wasting billions on naval ships that spring leaks before they even enter service - Yep, stupidity. :-)
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Message 1982072 - Posted: 25 Feb 2019, 2:50:12 UTC - in response to Message 1982057.  

Trying to take a train from NYC to London is also indisputable.......stupidity.

Dear JE...

Possibly can be done if we decide to throw our tax dollars down the toilet.

Yes... That would be "stupidity".
Military satellites, Paying your "arch enemy" to launch your astronauts, wasting billions on naval ships that spring leaks before they even enter service - Yep, stupidity. :-)
......haven't seen many Irish Astronauts........

"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>
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