Amazon (in New York)

Message boards : Politics : Amazon (in New York)
Message board moderation

To post messages, you must log in.

Previous · 1 · 2 · 3

AuthorMessage
Sirius B Project Donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 26 Dec 00
Posts: 24877
Credit: 3,081,182
RAC: 7
Ireland
Message 1981800 - Posted: 23 Feb 2019, 8:51:32 UTC - in response to Message 1981797.  

Amazon reported a federal income tax rebate for the past two years totalling almost $270m.
If it paid no tax, how did it manage such a rebate?
ID: 1981800 · Report as offensive
W-K 666 Project Donor
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 18 May 99
Posts: 19014
Credit: 40,757,560
RAC: 67
United Kingdom
Message 1981807 - Posted: 23 Feb 2019, 10:00:01 UTC - in response to Message 1981800.  
Last modified: 23 Feb 2019, 10:00:47 UTC

Amazon reported a federal income tax rebate for the past two years totalling almost $270m.
If it paid no tax, how did it manage such a rebate?

If you knew how to do that, you would have the tools to earn a fortune ;-)
And pay no taxes.
ID: 1981807 · Report as offensive
moomin
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 21 Oct 17
Posts: 6204
Credit: 38,420
RAC: 0
Sweden
Message 1981825 - Posted: 23 Feb 2019, 14:10:37 UTC - in response to Message 1981821.  
Last modified: 23 Feb 2019, 14:11:12 UTC

BTW: The USA's workers historically relocate to better paying jobs and futures.
Most recently, understand all the new Automobile Plants in our South and why Detroit almost became a ghost town.
Where did the workers in Detroit and surrounding areas go?
A bit off topic but perhaps to South Carolina and working for Volvo or BMW?
Bummer...
Volvo is scaling back plans for its new assembly plant just outside Charleston, South Carolina, as a result of the trade war triggered by President Donald Trump.
Volvo’s North American CEO, Anders Gustafsson, warned earlier this month that the tariffs could force the company to rethink plans to ramp up production and hire new workers at the South Carolina plant. A company statement issued this week confirmed that “trade issues may impact the pace of the expansion.”
Volvo appears not to be taking chances and is now making plans to shift at least some of the production of the new Volvo S60 sedan to one of its two plants in China.
BMW is studying similar options, the company has confirmed, for some of the sport utility vehicles produced at its own South Carolina assembly plant.
Perhaps a reason to not relocate for many American workers.
ID: 1981825 · Report as offensive
W-K 666 Project Donor
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 18 May 99
Posts: 19014
Credit: 40,757,560
RAC: 67
United Kingdom
Message 1981834 - Posted: 23 Feb 2019, 14:40:15 UTC - in response to Message 1981821.  

In Amazon bringing many direct and indirect jobs and having Government Revenue exceeding Subsides by 9 times?

Clyde you are quite correct those would not have been new jobs but jobs Amazon transferred from elsewhere. the same thing for Govt. revenue, that would be taxes not being paid elsewhere. An interesting factoid is Amazon paid no federal taxes last year, zero revenue.

In the case of this Thread - Amazon (in New York)

What City/State New York politicians and/or advocates would be against helping their economy, increase their government revenue and employing more of their people?

If they can afford it no problem, but I don't think New York can, just look at subway problems. Most of the employee's would not have been from New York. And even with an average salary of $150k they wouldn't have been able to afford house prices in Queens, they've gone up 50% since 2012. Hence the subway comment.

The beliefs of the NY State/City Socialist's and Left has not hurt Amazon. Their beliefs have only hurt their people and increased government revenue.

What revenue, haven't you been taking notice, Amazon hire the better accountants that NY or the Federal government. They don't pay taxes.

BTW: The USA's workers historically relocate to better paying jobs and futures.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/moving-for-work-getting-increasingly-rare/

Most recently, understand all the new Automobile Plants in our South and why Detroit almost became a ghost town.

Where did the workers in Detroit and surrounding areas go?

Losing less that 3,000 people/year, that's probably just the youngsters going off to college and not coming back.
ID: 1981834 · Report as offensive
W-K 666 Project Donor
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 18 May 99
Posts: 19014
Credit: 40,757,560
RAC: 67
United Kingdom
Message 1981837 - Posted: 23 Feb 2019, 14:49:18 UTC - in response to Message 1981835.  
Last modified: 23 Feb 2019, 14:50:06 UTC

Most of that decline was in the 1970's and 80's, when it was measured in 100's of thousands/decade, recently since 2000 in under a 2000/year on average (<20k/decade).

Is that your only comment to my answers.
ID: 1981837 · Report as offensive
W-K 666 Project Donor
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 18 May 99
Posts: 19014
Credit: 40,757,560
RAC: 67
United Kingdom
Message 1981859 - Posted: 23 Feb 2019, 16:16:36 UTC - in response to Message 1981848.  

Most of that decline was in the 1970's and 80's, when it was measured in 100's of thousands/decade, recently since 2000 in under a 2000/year on average (<20k/decade).

Is that your only comment to my answers.

That is you comment regarding foreign and domestic car companies moving or building new operations in our South?

Where did the workers go?

In http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=83912&postid=1981821#1981821 I made four comments, go and read it carefully. You only answered one.

To the question "Where did the workers go?" I don't know, and it is a fair possibility no one else knows in detail, but probably all over the country.
ID: 1981859 · Report as offensive
moomin
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 21 Oct 17
Posts: 6204
Credit: 38,420
RAC: 0
Sweden
Message 1981860 - Posted: 23 Feb 2019, 16:21:41 UTC - in response to Message 1981848.  
Last modified: 23 Feb 2019, 16:29:29 UTC

Where did the workers go?
Actually you cannot compare car manufacturing plants with Amazon HQ2 that is of course not a warehouse and manufacturing goods division but an R&D and a Cloud management and manufacturing software division.
Very different type of workers between the two.
If you look at the qualifications needed that an applicant for a job at Amazon HQ2 must have, you will notice that is nothing that will create new jobs in NYC or DC. Perhaps a few.
Amazon have formal requirements like experience in very nisched technologies.
And informal also "How old are you?" in general and if female "Are you single?" And a couple some more ...

Ah. All these gullibilly local politicians that try to bring prosperity to a region and fail...
ID: 1981860 · Report as offensive
W-K 666 Project Donor
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 18 May 99
Posts: 19014
Credit: 40,757,560
RAC: 67
United Kingdom
Message 1981870 - Posted: 23 Feb 2019, 18:21:14 UTC - in response to Message 1981869.  
Last modified: 23 Feb 2019, 18:25:43 UTC

The first of the car manufacturing plants opened in the south happened years in the 90's or later. Therefore at least ten years after the major decline of Detroit's population.

[edit] The new plants that opened before those in the south were in Ohio and Indiana, these are not in the South, they are next door to Detroit. [/edit]

P.S. This thread is about Amazon in NY
ID: 1981870 · Report as offensive
W-K 666 Project Donor
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 18 May 99
Posts: 19014
Credit: 40,757,560
RAC: 67
United Kingdom
Message 1981879 - Posted: 23 Feb 2019, 19:18:37 UTC - in response to Message 1981874.  

The first of the car manufacturing plants opened in the south happened years in the 90's or later. Therefore at least ten years after the major decline of Detroit's population.

Attribution because the Japanese started, in the 80's, to open many new car plants in our South.

P.S. this is the Amazon (in New York) thread.


Two plants opened in the south in the 80's, my bad, but these were quite small, they have since had massive expansions, The Toyota plant is now about 10 times bigger than the original assembly only plant.

Honda Alabama 2001
Toyota Kentucky 1988
Nissan Tennessee 1983
Nissan Mississippi 2001
VW Tennessee 2011
Hyundia Alabama 2005
BMW South Carolina 1994
Mercedes Alabama 1997
Mazda 2021 hopefully but its going to build a Toyota
ID: 1981879 · Report as offensive
W-K 666 Project Donor
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 18 May 99
Posts: 19014
Credit: 40,757,560
RAC: 67
United Kingdom
Message 1981883 - Posted: 23 Feb 2019, 19:32:24 UTC - in response to Message 1981882.  

But wasn't it the Unions that caused some of the problems in Detroit.
They objected to change and obtained wages which were way above the rate for the workers skill levels in other industries doing similar engineering jobs.
ID: 1981883 · Report as offensive
W-K 666 Project Donor
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 18 May 99
Posts: 19014
Credit: 40,757,560
RAC: 67
United Kingdom
Message 1981891 - Posted: 23 Feb 2019, 19:54:14 UTC - in response to Message 1981887.  

But wasn't it the Unions that caused some of the problems in Detroit.
They objected to change and obtained wages which were way above the rate for the workers skill levels in other industries doing similar engineering jobs.

No, as with the Chinese and other Global Capitalists. Our Southern States are not worker friendly. But they were not Industrial Capitalist friendly as they are now.

Since it was the Unions that were the reason for increased worker rights and pay when Capitalism was National or Regional. We must ensure that Unions are both National in the USA and Global.

Only if the unions are not corrupt.
ID: 1981891 · Report as offensive
Sirius B Project Donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 26 Dec 00
Posts: 24877
Credit: 3,081,182
RAC: 7
Ireland
Message 1988898 - Posted: 5 Apr 2019, 14:01:23 UTC

ID: 1988898 · Report as offensive
Profile Sarge
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 25 Aug 99
Posts: 12273
Credit: 8,569,109
RAC: 79
United States
Message 1990345 - Posted: 17 Apr 2019, 5:44:00 UTC

"I'm an Amazon. A legal Amazon. Living in New York."
Capitalize on this good fortune, one word can bring you round ... changes.
ID: 1990345 · Report as offensive
Previous · 1 · 2 · 3

Message boards : Politics : Amazon (in New York)


 
©2024 University of California
 
SETI@home and Astropulse are funded by grants from the National Science Foundation, NASA, and donations from SETI@home volunteers. AstroPulse is funded in part by the NSF through grant AST-0307956.