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Message 1980796 - Posted: 17 Feb 2019, 4:17:14 UTC - in response to Message 1980789.  

@ Clyde
Yes, Socialist beliefs have again destroyed people's future.
If Amazon is the people's future that's a pretty dismal future if you work for a living.
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Message 1980813 - Posted: 17 Feb 2019, 8:42:42 UTC

Amazon pulling out of New York is not a loss for the area.
The corporate leech pays nothing into the local economy by way of property taxes or income taxes.
They pay nothing toward supporting hospitals, education, policing or fire protection.
They do not contribute to building and maintaining roads.
They are users. They are parasites. They are a blight and a pox on working people.
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Message 1980814 - Posted: 17 Feb 2019, 8:55:59 UTC - in response to Message 1980813.  

Amazon pulling out of New York is not a loss for the area.
The corporate leech pays nothing into the local economy by way of property taxes or income taxes.
They pay nothing toward supporting hospitals, education, policing or fire protection.
They do not contribute to building and maintaining roads.
They are users. They are parasites. They are a blight and a pox on working people.

It doesn't even pay any federal taxes. Amazon Will Pay a Whopping $0 in Federal Taxes on $11.2 Billion Profits
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Message 1980829 - Posted: 17 Feb 2019, 12:07:34 UTC - in response to Message 1980814.  

Sounds like Facebook's scheme in Luleå, Sweden.
https://www.svt.se/nyheter/granskning/ug/facebook-tjanade-miljarder-pa-sverige-ser-till-att-pengar-inte-nar-svenska-skattkassan
Facebook received just over SEK 100 million in grants to place its servers on Swedish soil. A "strategically important" business, the government said, which also pushed through a reduction in energy tax for server halls. Now documents from the Paradis leak
show how Facebook goes about making as little money as possible reach the Swedish treasury.
The company takes the profit and the taxpayers the losses.
Business as usual!
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Message 1980843 - Posted: 17 Feb 2019, 15:00:05 UTC - in response to Message 1980799.  

Yes, up to 40,000 new jobs with an average income of $150,000!!!
Bullsh*t!
Maybe for the admin/honchos.
Most of the other employees are agency workers (if the UK arm is anything to go by).
The conditions for working at Amazon are worse than the old Victorian workhouse days.
While experiencing issues with the system, ATOS created many more & seeing the writing on the wall, looked to getting back to work.
Worked a week. Once on site you were expected to do overtime & in the agency agreement, there was a clause about that. Compulsory overtime? When I queried that, I was let go.
Constantly monitored for speed, toilet breaks. Your legal breaks had to include time to leave & get back to your work position.
Fair enough I took home just under £700, however would much prefer being on the road. Want a P break, easy, stop. Want to stop & grab a bite to eat, easy, park up.
Economy destroying socialism? Unbridled capitalism is just as bad.
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Message 1980846 - Posted: 17 Feb 2019, 15:46:31 UTC - in response to Message 1980799.  

The state estimates the project will facilitate 1,300 construction jobs and 107,000 in total direct and indirect jobs.
The Amazon company is NOT a charity organisation.
They will NEVER locate its business to places where they don't get tax reductions.
And with the HELP of local politicians!
Yes, the construction phase will bring jobs for a year or two, but then what?
Amazon is NOT a labor intensive company...
Like Facebook!
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Message 1980849 - Posted: 17 Feb 2019, 15:58:13 UTC - in response to Message 1980847.  

There is one thing worse than a politician/bureaucrat/BHL & that is an individual who used capitalism to feather their own nest, retire, get bored with retirement & spew bovine excrement.

Regarding Amazon - Changed your tune about "Workers of the World Unite"?
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Message 1980852 - Posted: 17 Feb 2019, 16:08:13 UTC - in response to Message 1980843.  
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Constantly monitored for speed, toilet breaks.

How about this then, With fitness trackers in the workplace, bosses can monitor your every step — and possibly more, how soon before Amazon introduces this, if they haven't done so already.

Except it will probably be more like this, Inside Ocado's burning robotic warehouse, without the burning.
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Message 1980854 - Posted: 17 Feb 2019, 16:26:56 UTC - in response to Message 1980852.  

Constantly monitored for speed, toilet breaks.

How about this then, With fitness trackers in the workplace, bosses can monitor your every step — and possibly more, how soon before Amazon introduces this, if they haven't done so already.

Except it will probably be more like this, Inside Ocado's burning robotic warehouse, without the burning.

er, https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Amazon-Warehouse-Robbinsville-Sickened-Workers-501976671.html
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Message 1980857 - Posted: 17 Feb 2019, 16:35:49 UTC - in response to Message 1980852.  

Except it will probably be more like this, Inside Ocado's burning robotic warehouse, without the burning.
I spoke to a contact at Ocado who expressed shock at how the fire had spread so fast.
Hmm, where have we heard that before?
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Message 1980859 - Posted: 17 Feb 2019, 16:41:28 UTC - in response to Message 1980858.  

Still doesn't absolve the Socialists from again destroying the future of workers. In the NYC case, possibly 107,000 new jobs, with 40,000 of them having a mean income of $150,000.
& the income of the other 67,000 is what?
What positions would the 40,000 hold to earn that income?
Anyone can use numbers to make a point Clyde, but blindly using them is a fools game.
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Message 1980865 - Posted: 17 Feb 2019, 16:47:19 UTC - in response to Message 1980862.  

Nice meme. Now confirm or deny that she did that because she held a grudge.
You cannot. :-)
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Message 1980871 - Posted: 17 Feb 2019, 17:06:36 UTC

Don't quite a few of these 'factories' end up like this.
Trump's beloved American Foxconn factory isn't going to happen
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Message 1980875 - Posted: 17 Feb 2019, 17:15:08 UTC

I've created this thread for discussion of this issue as it has derailed the Donald Trump thread. Thank you.
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Message 1980880 - Posted: 17 Feb 2019, 18:01:16 UTC

Amazon - Apple - Facebook - Google - Trump.

What have they all got in common?
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Message 1980882 - Posted: 17 Feb 2019, 18:13:17 UTC - in response to Message 1980880.  

Greedy super rich companies that not bring anything back to the society perhaps?
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Message 1980890 - Posted: 17 Feb 2019, 18:51:10 UTC - in response to Message 1980880.  

Amazon - Apple - Facebook - Google - Trump - Ineos.

Britain’s richest man, Sir Jim Ratcliffe, who was knighted less than a year ago for his services to business and investment, has been planning to avoid up to £4bn in tax after switching his home and his fortune to Monaco.

The Sunday Times can disclose that the prominent Brexiteer, who built up the chemicals giant Ineos, has been working with the accountant PwC on the tax avoidance plan. This would see him and senior executives Andy Currie and John Reece legally share between £1bn and £10bn tax-free, depriving the Treasury of between £400m and £4bn.
They're all prepared to hand over barrowloads of their dosh to tax accountants (PwC won't come cheap), to ensure that the head honcho doesn't have to contribute anything to the welfare of the grunts who made the dosh for him.

None of them know the meaning of the word 'enough' - they always want more - more - more...
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Message 1980903 - Posted: 17 Feb 2019, 20:02:01 UTC

By following it's own rules on trade, logistics and employeers working and economic terms Amazon is allowed to change the society without no one interfering.
At Amazon it's always Day one.
Jeff Bezos explaines.
Day two is "statious" (stagnation) followed by irrelevans, followed by excursiating painful decline, followed by death.
And that it's why it is always Day one.
Normally all are both producers and consumers in the economy but Amazon has changed that.
If you are retailer not from Amazon then your out of business.
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Message 1980905 - Posted: 17 Feb 2019, 20:06:35 UTC - in response to Message 1980890.  

they always want more - more - more...

Where have I heard that before?
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Message 1980906 - Posted: 17 Feb 2019, 20:12:28 UTC - in response to Message 1980905.  

Oliver Twist?
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